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| IMO - butt bars should be strong enough to hold the full weight of a horse, just in case they need to, for basic safety reasons. I recently purchased a brand-new all-aluminum trailer. I hauled my three-year-old up to work with my trainer. When I unloaded him, I found that the plate to which the butt bar attaches was pulling out of the wall of the trailer. Apparently, my horse was sitting on the butt bar, and, apparently, it was not attached to anything solid. I am very disturbed by this. I think it is a major design issue that impacts safety. |
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Location: lyle,mn | have you talked to the dealer from where you bought the trailer? If it is brand new there is warranty. Maybe someone at the factory forgot to finish installing the butt bar. |
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| It is being repaired under warranty. That does not mean that it is not a serious safety issue. |
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| My draft horse friends won't use butt bars because they say they are always being bent.... They use nylon straps. Anyonbe else out there have an opinion?? |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by horsey1 on 2007-09-21 11:16 AM
My draft horse friends won't use butt bars because they say they are always being bent.... They use nylon straps. Anyonbe else out there have an opinion?? Better to have a bent butt bar than a damaged rear door assembly...I've own and have hauled draft horses...Never lost a butt bar... ...My guess is that your friends have TOO LARGE a compartment for their drafts, which allows them to step back into the bars... |
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| Okay Paul, now I'm confused... Small stalls won't let a draft sit on a butt bar, but large ones will? Please explain. The bent bars I've seen bent are in regular straightload stalls. |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by horsey1 on 2007-09-21 4:20 PM
Okay Paul, now I'm confused... Small stalls won't let a draft sit on a butt bar, but large ones will? Please explain. The bent bars I've seen bent are in regular straightload stalls. If a Draft Horse has room to move Back and Forth in a straightload...that is when they get bent...Visualize their mass moving backward a foot and then hitting the butt bar... The event is a 1 foot/ton event...quite a bit of energy for the butt bar to absorb... |
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Location: Youngstown, OH | I always assumed that a "butt bar" should be just that - a bar and assumed that the nylon straps were just a cheap shortcut. But after I asked a few questions of manufacturers, there is a reason they moved to using a nylon strap. From what I understand, the nylon strap is supposed to safer than the bar. It won't bend and if a horse gets caught up under one, you can cut the strap with a knife. Not saying I agree, just repeating what I was told. |
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| And you'll not have an extra foot in between a Belgian and the rest of the stall. Usually just a very few inches at most.... |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by reinergirl on 2007-09-22 10:29 AM I always assumed that a "butt bar" should be just that - a bar and assumed that the nylon straps were just a cheap shortcut. But after I asked a few questions of manufacturers, there is a reason they moved to using a nylon strap. From what I understand, the nylon strap is supposed to safer than the bar. It won't bend and if a horse gets caught up under one, you can cut the strap with a knife. Not saying I agree, just repeating what I was told. Well if a Draft could get under a butt bar...I would be greatly impressed... Can you say LIMBO...HOW LOW CAN YOU GO???... |
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Location: NW | When I got my 3H slant, it did not have ANY butt bar, etc. I enstalled 2 eye bolt - one on the curb side of the rear of the trailer & the other on the back tack wall. Then got strong snaps & attached a chain, which I covered w/the insulation tube you put over pipes. It has work great....never had a horse get stupid w/one, but this reminds any that might get in a yank to get out, that there is a barrier. |
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Edited by leekirk711w 2007-09-23 4:12 PM
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How strong should butt bars be????
