Awning Caution for everyone
Dunoir
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Posted 2007-07-12 7:07 AM (#63743)
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Friend of mine was recently driving down the highway when to her dismay she saw her awning opening up and unfurling as she drove along.  Luckily there was room to pull over and an equine dentist happened to stop and help her roll it back up and tie it off.

I think something broke on it causing this to happen, but I bought some of those leather pieces to tie stirrups back with and put them on my awning to keep that from happening.  The one side stays up as it has a piece to keep it from coming down, but the other one slipped down, so I have to figure out a better system for it.

It will only take an extra minute to remove it when I need the awning and the piece of mine sure is worth it. If it happened to one person it could surely happen again. 

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-12 11:10 AM (#63766 - in reply to #63743)
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 Do you happen to know what brand of awning it is that she has?
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flyinghfarm
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Posted 2007-07-12 11:48 AM (#63769 - in reply to #63743)
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I have never had an awning "let go" but I have heard of it happening.  I use 2 industrial size cable ties on each arm when I haul, cheap insurance for peace of mind.  Just cut em off when ready to deploy the awning. 
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Posted 2007-07-12 11:55 AM (#63772 - in reply to #63743)
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I'll email her and ask the brand, but I think it could happen to any of them....
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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2007-07-12 11:59 AM (#63773 - in reply to #63743)
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RV sales have velcro straps that you can put on the arms during travel for extra security.  Very cheaply bought, however could be easy to make also.   Heavy velcro needed though.  I once had one start to give and i duct taped around the arm until I got to my destination.......(duct tape, electrical tape and baling wire.....my best friends!!!LOL)
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Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2007-07-12 12:07 PM (#63775 - in reply to #63743)
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I use velcro straps to hold the awning arms together while going down the road.  Works great.

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-12 12:20 PM (#63777 - in reply to #63769)
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Originally written by flyinghfarm on 2007-07-12 11:48 AM

I have never had an awning "let go" but I have heard of it happening.  I use 2 industrial size cable ties on each arm when I haul, cheap insurance for peace of mind.  Just cut em off when ready to deploy the awning. 

Are they the plastic kind that have a one way stop that the end goes through to tighten it up?

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Posted 2007-07-12 12:21 PM (#63778 - in reply to #63775)
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A friend had a problem with her's locking closed a few weeks ago when we packed up to head home. And guess what?  I gave her a stirrup hobble to secure it for the drive home.  I keep several of those leather straps - with lots of holes punched in them - for all sorts of things. Stirrup hobbles work good to secure rolled up tarps, ponchos, etc., to the back of saddles and to hang other "things" from the D-rings on a saddle.  The other handy strap is the woven English spur straps. No holes - just push the buckle tongue through anywhere.

I too have seen the velcro straps - but I think the leather is more secure and less likely to slide down the post.

I recommend using something on all awnings to secure them closed when driving.

EDITING to add some clarification.  When opening the awning, it has 2 arms/support legs that swing out from the trailer. When the awning is rolled up, these arms fold flat against the side of the trailer. The leather strap - or zip tie, velcro, etc. is used to secure the arms closed or to the side of the trailer.

Not all awnings are attached or constructed the same. You may need to fasten a strap to the trailer itself to close around each arm/support leg.

 



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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-12 12:21 PM (#63779 - in reply to #63775)
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Where did you get your velcro straps,did you  make them?

I'm always imagining senarios like this happening to us.Some of the roads we haul on have no place to get a big rig off in a hurry.

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-12 12:23 PM (#63781 - in reply to #63778)
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This sounds silly,but,how are you going to climb up there on a tall trailer and secure anything around the rolled up awning?
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Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2007-07-12 12:49 PM (#63782 - in reply to #63781)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2007-07-12 12:23 PM

This sounds silly,but,how are you going to climb up there on a tall trailer and secure anything around the rolled up awning?

 

You don't put them around the rolled up awning, you put them around the arms.

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-12 1:04 PM (#63784 - in reply to #63782)
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Yes,at the risk of looking like an idiot which happens frequently on here,I PM'd gabz,and that's what I was told.Not being able to figure out how straps would be able to go around a rolled up awning,you see.I wasn't outside looking at the awning and just couldn't picture it,not knowing a whole whole lot about those things anyway,except,that they're usually more a PIA than they are useful.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-07-12 1:31 PM (#63787 - in reply to #63743)
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  Yes, they are a PIA!! That's whiy I use those heavy duty plastic "zip ties" on both arms when transporting down the road. The arms have the factory locks on them but knowing those "zip ties" are on there keeps me out of the "left side mirror", and eye's more so on the road ahead.. Then I hide all the sharp objects so the wife won't want to deploy the awning just because it's 21' long and has burgandy and white stripes.......Believe me, you can't miss it! It is nice for those day shows this time of year.
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gabz
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-07-12 1:41 PM (#63788 - in reply to #63787)
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LOL.... 

Which is why I prefer a pop-up canopy to an awning.

When my daughter was showing 4H and High School... it was far easier to use an EZ-Up canopy and place it close to the arena if necessary, or to the front of the truck if the show grounds were packed. It was also easier to use when camping - as not all woods-parking (trees) is ideal for parking so that the awning is blocks the SW sun, whereas the canopy can be positioned anywhere - even over a 500 pound picnic table!! : )

I even convinced Hosspuller that the EZ-up was a better investment - especially if you also bought the screen or solid sides (2 of each is a good value)

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-12 2:09 PM (#63790 - in reply to #63787)
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Yes,they're a PIA until you're parked in the hot Arkie sun beaming down on you,then,they're nice.Thanks for the advice on the ties,will do it.One less thing to worry about.
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Posted 2007-07-12 11:43 PM (#63811 - in reply to #63743)
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Friend of mine was recently driving down the highway when to her dismay she saw her awning opening up and unfurling as she drove along.



Geez lousie!



Here's a link to make a Awning Lock http://www.srhams.org/awning_lock.html




Links to Awning Locks you can buy...well worth the $$$$.


http://www.coilnwrap.com/awning/awninglock.htm



http://awninglock.com/








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inIndiana
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2007-07-13 1:55 AM (#63814 - in reply to #63743)
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someone asked where to buy the velcro straps.........Wal-Mart, K-mart, Target any farm store, hardware store should have them.
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Shari
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Posted 2007-07-13 7:10 AM (#63819 - in reply to #63743)
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I bought 2 cat collars and put on ours.
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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-13 9:22 AM (#63824 - in reply to #63819)
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I just put a couple of old leather "keepers" I think they're called,that go around your stirrup leathers .We had some laying around,and I just buckled them around the latch.I'll look for something like Velcro and see if I can find it.Cat collars sounds like a good idea,too.
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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-13 9:31 AM (#63825 - in reply to #63811)
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Originally written by IcePonyGoddess on 2007-07-12 11:43 PM

Friend of mine was recently driving down the highway when to her dismay she saw her awning opening up and unfurling as she drove along.

Geez lousie! Here's a link to make a Awning Lock http://www.srhams.org/awning_lock.html Links to Awning Locks you can buy...well worth the $$$$. http://www.coilnwrap.com/awning/awninglock.htm http://awninglock.com/...

By looking at this $60 device on this link,now I am confused as to how plain old leather stirrup hobbles,cat collars,velcro straps,ect.would do the job,as they aren't anywhere near the place that this device is on the awning.???

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flyinghfarm
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Posted 2007-07-13 11:52 AM (#63853 - in reply to #63743)
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I put my zip ties just around the closed arms of the awning, 2 on each arm.  I too, enjoy the shade to sit under or saddle under when that hot Southern sun beams down.  I also use deflappers and a heavy duty, full length awning tie-down to help on light wind. 
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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-13 1:32 PM (#63858 - in reply to #63853)
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BTW,we have an Exiss 12'Event with a Carefree awning.

Used to ahve a 2step on the Platinum,and I liked it better.

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gabz
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Posted 2007-07-13 2:07 PM (#63862 - in reply to #63858)
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regarding the one at sharm... "Oh yeah, gee... I've got a machine shop in my garage... "  NOT.

$60? 

The $40 one looks okay.

After reading the awning lock site... where is says that the awning actually unrolls - hmmmm....  But I have to believe, if the arms are clamped shut, that should at least prevent the awning from opening, yes?

I'll stick with my EZ-up canopy. : )

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retento
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Posted 2007-07-13 2:19 PM (#63863 - in reply to #63743)
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  If the arms are clamped shut it will still unroll on itself, but the arms won't be in the other lane of traffic. If for some reason the little lever up on the spool gets moved into the down position the awning will unroll in place (with the arms clamped and locked in the up position) going down the road. That's where the pin deal comes into play. It holds the spool or rolled up awning in place so it can't unroll, even with the lever in the down position. It would be safe to have the arms clamped with extra straps and this pin in place when traveling.
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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-13 8:20 PM (#63871 - in reply to #63863)
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My awning is on the passenger side of the trailer anyway,so it won't be in another lane of traffic.I'd think if the arms are secure it can't feed out from the roll anyway can it?
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Posted 2007-07-13 8:44 PM (#63872 - in reply to #63743)
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Leave the awning arms up, flick the little lever on the awning to the down position and take off down the road and see if it don't start to deploy itself. It will open up like a parachute!! If the spring breaks in the awning roller while traveling on the road...........It will start to unroll and by the time you realize that it's rolling out it may be too late. That's the reason adding that $60.00 sliding pin up on the roll of fabric, to hold it in place in case the up/down lever is moved, or the spring were to break in the rolled up awning.
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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-13 8:49 PM (#63873 - in reply to #63872)
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So,do you have one on your awning?

If so,how long has it been on there?

Did you know all this before this post? I guess  you must have,because,this is the first time I've ever heard of it,or seen a pin to hold one,ect.

 

why don't   the awning manufacturers make them if it is a liability issue?

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Posted 2007-07-13 9:36 PM (#63874 - in reply to #63743)
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As I understand it, awaning damage is the number one cliam in the RV insurance business.

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Broken Bit
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Posted 2007-07-14 8:46 AM (#63884 - in reply to #63743)
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I can vouch for that, I use to be an R.V. Tech. a while back, and boy did we replace awnings!  It didn't matter on what, pull behind, 5th wheel, park models, motor homes, pushers, some that didn't move in years, but were used like a cottage and the wind would take the awnings out!  Yup, they can be a PIA.  But with some common sense (and some luck) they sure can be a joy to have.  It's a simple answer as to why they don't come with a lock from the manufacturer... when one "breaks" they sell the customer a new one, weather they pay for it or the insurance does, THEY SELL ANOTHER!  Oh well, watcha gonna do?  Talk to y'all later...
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Posted 2007-07-14 12:05 PM (#63888 - in reply to #63884)
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What I'm saying is: if it is a liability issue,and people in other vehicles have had vehicle damage or have been hurt,or in the case one post on here made,a minister was killed and his family sued the awning manufacturer,why wouldn't they take measures to be sure that it wasn't that easy for an awning to unroll going down the road?

WOuld it be a case of: the awning mfg.word against the owners of the trailer or RV as to whether or not it was properly latched to begin with?

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Posted 2007-07-14 10:55 PM (#63899 - in reply to #63743)
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I had an awning come loose years ago and several people told me to tie velcro around the arms when I was traveling. I asked the company about it when I had it replaced and they assured me that velcro was a great idea. I have never had an issue with an awning when traveling since that time.

 As far as liabilty; I don't think that someone could win that battle against a manufacturer.

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Posted 2007-07-15 7:39 AM (#63909 - in reply to #63743)
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probably not, it came out of the factory with locks on both arms and the internal lock in the tube (basicaly the up/down lever).  So if it has been used at all, then the argument could be made that it was due to a lack of proper maintenace on the part of the owner/user.  OTOH, we all know how twisted things can get in the court of law now days.  Kinda hard to say, isn't it?  Talk to y'all later...
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Posted 2007-07-16 1:42 AM (#63933 - in reply to #63743)
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I always tie my arms down with those bungy ball straps, just to be absolutely sure it aint gonna fly down. Cheap security for sure.
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kaw
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Posted 2007-07-17 10:28 PM (#64055 - in reply to #63743)
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First, let me readily admit that I have a horse in this race, so to speak. I sell the popular RV Awning Travel Lock via the Internet.

Second, I'd like to thank the couple dozen of you who have already visited my site. I appreciate your visits, because visitors eventually become customers and then I'll make a few bucks and know that there is one less awning to cause its owner grief.

Third, I have written a five articles, four of which might be of interest to readers of this Forum. Because there is so much discussion as to the cause and speculation as to the cure for lost awnings, I think the article "The Greatest Myth in RVing---and What You Can Do About It" may be of special interest to this group.

You can access all the articles here: ezinearticles.com

I hope this info will be useful. But I really hope that you never experience a lost awning event!

Keith Williams
awninglock.com
awninglock.info

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crowleysridgegirl
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Posted 2007-07-17 11:31 PM (#64058 - in reply to #64055)
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Damn,I think they need to rename this "the thread that wouldn't die."
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