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    Location: Gallatin, TN | Once again I am seeking the wisdom of the Horse Trailer World Community. I have always heard that white hooves are softer than black, well I have a palomino racking horse with the dredded white hooves. His feet tend to crack and peel regardless of the time of year. I keep a light weight shoe on him and he stays shod all year. Any suggestions on supplements or topical treatments? I have used blackoil sunflower seeds without much success. I have heard of a topical called Keartin but am worried because it is a formalin / formaldahyde product.  Happy Trails, JacciB
Edited by JacciB 2007-06-18 8:38 AM
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  Location: Maryland | I also have a racking horse that has light hooves, and he has the same problem. My place has a lot of rocks, so that is part of the problem. I also have to keep him shod year round. I tried the Keratin hoof supplement 2 years ago, but didn't really notice much help. I do use Tuff Stuff twice a week and am using Biotin Plus hoof supplement every day. It has 50 mg of biotin, most supplements only have 20 mg. I do know the horses stomping in the summer because of flies doesn't help either.
Good Luck !!!!
Don't you just love those racking horses 32 |
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  Location: Maryland | Is that a picture of your racking horse ? He's gorgeous !!!!! |
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    Location: Gallatin, TN | Is that a picture of your racking horse ? He's gorgeous !!!!! Yup, that's my boy. Thank you very much for the input and the compliment. RACK ON!
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   Location: Odenville, Alabama | There's an old horse trader saying which goes like this . . . "One white hoof, buy him" "Two white hooves, try him" "Three white hooves, deny him" "Four white hooves, feed him to the crows" I always keep this saying in mind when looking at horses. |
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  Location: Maryland | And does that really help with the question that was asked ? DUH |
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      Location: Southern New Mexico | It helps as much as yours did. I've had paints and appys with white feet and have never had problems with them. I always keep mine barefoot unless we are planing on going somewhere really rocky. I just use a moisture retaining hoof coating. I got my last paint for $400 because of his 3 white feet and never had a problem with them. I kept him barefoot for 9 years with out a problem. |
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  Location: Claxton, Ga. | Sounds like it could be too much starch. Got several Walkers with white holves. Had problems with one cracking until I switched to low starch feed. Keep holves moist with something like rainmaker (when needed) and pick regularly. All mine are barefoot. Not showing so no shoes. Will use something like boca boots if going to rocky areas. |
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      Location: Nebraska | I would look at nutritional issues to be the root of the problem, don't forget the mirco minerals. also regular trimmings and environmental, maybe the hoofs need sealed. Then there is conformation and genetics issue also |
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         Location: South Central OK | Having had Paints and Apps and Quarters all with one white foot or more I'd attack from both the inside and out. Feed the supplement(s) your farrier recommends and also apply daily hoof oil or sealant. If the problem is bad enough you notice it then you should be putting effort into both areas of treatment, mouth and hoof. I would buy hoof oil in gallon jugs and mix other hoof creams with the oil in my applicator can...the mind of a Chemist is never happy with anything store bought, it needed my help IMO. I also listened to all the local farriers/feed stores/equine vets about what supplement was currently found to be best for my problem and where to find it. I can honestly say that I've never found a product that out shined the rest (heck, regular powdered milk has the most biotin), but consistency is absolutely the key in getting results! So your title read hoof supplement or topical treatment, it should read hoof supplement AND topical treatment. Good luck! |
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 Location: Dwale, Kentucky | I use used motor oil on my horses feet! White, Black, White/Black it dosen't matter it keeps them from drying out and cracking! I apply it about 2-3 time a week! just take a paint brush and put it on! |
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     Location: KY | We mix pine tar with neatsfoot oil, and apply to feet 2x a week; and feed biotin tablets from the local discount store, 1 tab per horse per day. |
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      Location: Southern New Mexico | So with the powdered milk and paprika I should have my black and white appy with strong white feet. I was skeptical of the paparika at first, but I am happy to say that it has made my boy black again. No more "liver" brown for him!! I'd say thank you to whoever suggested it, but I don't remember who it was. |
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    Location: Gallatin, TN | Originally written by Terri on 2007-06-27 11:13 AM So with the powdered milk and paprika I should have my black and white appy with strong white feet. Hi Terri, I have not seen that post. What are the details of the powdered milk andpaprika? |
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    Location: Kansas | Hadn't heard about the powdered milk, but when I called for details comparing Blacker than Black with a newcomer, the only difference was the levels of paprika, which seemed to be the darkening agent. |
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  Location: Maryland | I would like to know how much powdered milk you should feed for a hoof supplement. I have never heard of this before.
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         Location: South Central OK | I am not clear on the amount but it wasn't over 1/4 cup I can assure you all. I had an App with really shelly/flaky feet and my old school farrier told me to use powered milk and just "sprinkle some on as long as he'll eat it." Great dosing instructions. After about 11 months his feet were rock hard. My later high dollar farriers were of the mind that if it worked stay with it...this was their take on 99% of feeding supplements too I might add. I have tried all the fancy feed supplements with my show animals, but when it comes to the hoof you can't do better than powdered milk from my experience. |
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   Location: Maine | Supplement - make sure your supplement has the correct proportions of biotin, lysine, methonine, and there's another "ine" but I forget - I was told by an equine nutrition expert that biotin alone can't do it. It needs the balance provided by the other ingredients. The major grain companies (here in the Northeast) like Blue Seal, Poulin, and Purina have nutritionists who can tell you about hoof health from the inside out. Topical - My farrier recommended venice turpentine. This stuff is nasty in that the consistency is somewhere between honey, varnish, pine pitch and glue. Sticky sticky sticky. I have just started using it as my older mare is getting a little tender-footed, so I don't know how effective it is. Other - I also feed Omega Horseshine which is ground flax seed. It is high in the omega fats and is supposed to be great for their hooves. So far so good with my four bare-foot horses. I've been feeding that for years. |
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         Location: South Central OK | barstow, don't get that venice turpentine on the coronary band, it'll burn! I've only ever used it on the sole of the hoof, never the hoof walls. |
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   Location: Maine | I was not aware that it would burn on the coronary band, thanks. To date, I have only put it on the soles since that's what I am trying to toughen. And it is so unpleasant to work with, I don't want to put it anywhere I don't have to!
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 Location: Carson City, MI | We always flood our water tank so that the ground around it becomes a big puddle. They stand there just long enough to keep there hooves hydrated. Other then this our pasture is dry and I have two paints with perfect white feet all the way around. No shoes. Your case may be more severe and need more attention but this is another thing that you can try to help keep them hydrated. |
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         Location: South Central OK | That "old wives tale" about them standing in water isn't true. It can make their hooves crack more...FYI |
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Location: Grass Valley, CA | My daughter's palomino quarter horse had extremely soft hoofs which would crack easily, impossible to keep shoes on, etc. Someone recommended she start giving her Farnam's "Horseshoers Secret" (http://www.farnamhorse.com/100240.html) once a day and now she has great hoofs and her shoes now stay on! Plus, and added benefit is it's turned her light palomino color into a nice rich gold. It isn't cheap but it sure does the trick (and if you're constantly loosing shoes and paying to have re-shod, it most likely will save you some $ as well as frustration in the long run.) |
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   Location: NW | Hey Terri, how much papika do you give them? |
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      Location: Southern New Mexico | Sorry for the delay, we were on vacation. I give my gelding a table spoon of paprika a day. I just buy the big containers of it at SAMS. It took about a month to start to show a change. |
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Location: Celina, Ohio | I was really interested in the paprika solution to making a black horse stay black....I have never heard of this before. We have a black walker mare that turns burnt brown by the end of June. What is the dosage of paprika per day per horse. Ruth |
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      Location: Southern New Mexico | My appy gelding is a blue roan / leopard and he was faded to a "liver". I've been giving him 1tblsp of paprika a day since April and he is nice and blue/black again. |
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   Location: NW | I haven't been on in a few days either, so just got your reply. Do they seem to eat it ok, or is it one of those things you work up to? |
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      Location: Southern New Mexico | My glding is a pig and will eat anything. I did start by adding some corn oil at first so it would stick to the feed, but I don't use that now. I just put the paprika in and mix it into the bucket. He licks the bottom of the feed tub. I just had to replace his rubber feed pan becuase he put a hole right through the bottom. I've never seen a horse do that before. |
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