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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: Kentucky | Hello, I am trying to understand the hierarchy of the aluminum goosenecks. Can someone help me understand. From what I have learned, I would rate 4-Star, Elite, Hart, Platinum,Bloomer, C +C as highest. Then in the above average class would be:Cimarron, Sundowner (all aluminum only after 2006 and 8'wide), Keifer Built (Genesis), Silver Lite, Exiss (if the dealer is great about warrenty work), CM (Norstar only) Then in mid range would be: Cherokee, Silver Star My understanding is that Bison, Logan, Kiefer Built (except Genesis), CM (exept Norstar) and most Sundowners are aluminum with steel frame. |
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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) Location: MO | Originally written by arlene21 on 2007-01-11 11:34 AM
Hello, I am trying to understand the hierarchy of the aluminum goosenecks. Can someone help me understand. From what I have learned, I would rate 4-Star, Elite, Hart, Platinum,Bloomer, C +C as highest. Then in the above average class would be:Cimarron, Sundowner (all aluminum only after 2006 and 8'wide), Keifer Built (Genesis), Silver Lite, Exiss (if the dealer is great about warrenty work), CM (Norstar only) Then in mid range would be: Cherokee, Silver Star My understanding is that Bison, Logan, Kiefer Built (except Genesis), CM (exept Norstar) and most Sundowners are aluminum with steel frame.
Arlene - Bison makes both steel frame/aluminum skin (Alumisport) and an all aluminum (Stratus) trailers. They are worth looking at. The best value for the $$ IMO. Their web site is
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![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: IL. | I have owned different types of trailers and in my opinion most are way overpriced for the quality of trailer,In my humble opinion if you want a high quality all aluminum trailer take a hard look at Eby trailers.We have our second one on order and would not have anything else.Good luck on your search there are alot of choices so choose carfully. |
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![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: IL. | Egyptian? never heard that one.Eby horse trailers are built in pennsylvania USA.Don't know much about Stidham but heard good things about Jamco.Like he said some trailer company's don't need to spend millions on advertisments. |
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| Has anyone ever heard of Dream Coach? I'm looking for a 3 horse bumper pull and living in California, none of these trailers are made here and the selection is very limited especially in used trailers. I'm thinking it might be worth it even with shipping to get a trailer from the midwest. Do you have a rating for Featherlite? Is Dream Coach like Featherlite in anyone's opinion? I have an old one that has been great. Also my old Sooner (2001) has been a great trailer. |
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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: Northern IN. | Glad to see that HWBar brought up Stidham trailers! They are tops in my opinion! I don't think that you can find more trailer for your money on the market today. We bought 3 last year alone and any future trailers will be Stidhams, I truck livestock for a living and like to think I know trailers pretty well, when you use them every day in every way you find out real quick what works and what doesn't, what holds up and what doesn't, what pays for itself and what doesn't. That's MHO, talk to y'all later... |
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![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: IL. | We have been working with Eby since early november,we have been in close contact with Eby,the dealership and the conversion company trying to get everything perfect (my wife said get it right,it's your last one) and we have not heard anything about a buyout. sorry can't speak for the other companies.Did you say the rumor came from a dealer??? |
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Location: Oak Harbor,WA | Where do Classic and Trails West trailers fall into the pile at? |
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![500](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/500.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) Location: md | I also think EBY is the best. They are built for the long haul. I don't believe for a second that they got bought out. They h ave been around for a long time. |
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![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: IL. | Hey HWBAR this computer stuff is new to me so i started looking around yestrday and finally had some results,them Stidham trailers do look like a fine piece of equipment i'm looking forward to doing more research and looking at one in person. |
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![2000](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/2000.gif) ![500](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/500.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: North Carolina | Originally written by arlene21 on 2007-01-11 10:34 AM Hello, I am trying to understand the hierarchy of the aluminum goosenecks. Can someone help me understand. To ask a general question of hierarchy is to really ask about the effectiveness of marketing campaigns and to some extent their target market. Without DeBeers' marketing, diamonds are just small hard stones. So too is "trailer hierarchy"... A horse trailer is really only as good as it fits your needs and purse. |
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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) Location: Columbus, Ohio | Have heard of stidhams being of excellent quality but have never seen one. Saw a C&C at Congress, seems similar to 4Star. Of others I've actually poked around in, for all alum. felt the 4-Star was the best- but small and pricey. For alum. over steel Merhow, Hawk, and Logan. Looked strongly at Sundowner but felt they were pricey. I personally ended up with the Logan due to longer stall length and the plank alum. floor which came with the protective spray (like what Sundowner Does). These are all 2h bp slants. The alum. floors on some models just seemed 'weak'. I'm sure its a perception thing but they are nothing more than flat sheets of alum., of varying thickness (although the Merhow was signif. thicker than featherlite) with drain holes drilled in them. I'm sure they are fine as there are so many but when I would jump around in the trailer felt they were noisy and gave an unstable feeling. Good Luck! |
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![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: Wisconsin | as a SilverLite dealer I can affirm that SilverLite is not the company recently sold to an Egyptian co. SilverLite is going strong spreading out to the east coast after more than ten yrs on the west. When comparing make sure you look at the welds, aluminum thickness and spacing of crossmembers. And don't forget how the companies back up their porducts with the warranty. SilverLite offers a ten year structural warranty. Several very good brands have been mentioned and mostly it comes down to personal needs and pocketbook. |
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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: Kentucky | Thanks for all of the responses. Everything really boils down to purpose and pocketbook but it is helpful to at least know which trailers seem similar. In cars, I don't even go to look at the Cadillacs, Lincolns, Lexus etc. but what is in my price range that fits my purpose best and is going to stand the test of time. I can get a new trailer for the same price as another brand but which is the best choice. All of you that frequent this site and have pulled trailers for years know the answers better than those of us that are new. It isn't putting any brand down, but there are hierarchies. Changes are made and it is difficult to keep up with the latest company acquisitions, new line additions ect. Knowledge is power. A diamond isn't just a hard stone, there is clarity, size, shape, ect. but knowing that lets me make the decision about what is best for me. |
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![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: Mt. Horeb, WI | I brought a Stidham last year and for the money you can't get a better trailer. I look at hart, bloomer and more quality for the money. Hart makes an excellent trailer, my first trailer was a Hart, had an accident was looking to buy another Hart until I looked at the Stidham trailers. The welds were exceptional and the owners are great to deal with. Stidham is one of the oldest trailer companies so the owners are three generation. Stidham and Hart I feel are number one. |
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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) ![25](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/25.gif) Location: southcentral pennsylvania | As a Stidham owner since 1970, I can attest to their exceptional quality. I always get a chuckle when I read that someone has owned a trailer for 1 or 2 years and just loves it, no leaks, etc. The test of time is the ultimate test! I owned my first Stidham for 22 years, and still loved it the day I sold it 22 years later for what I paid for it in 1970! Never had a leak in 22 years! I had the pleasure of meeting the owners at the factory in Chickasha, OK. The Stidham I purchased in 1992 and my most recent one was ordered sight unseen....that is how much faith I have in the Stidham name! Take Care, Brenda |
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Location: TN | It was Silver Star in SC that just sold out and got into such a bind...not Silver Lite. |
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![100](https://horsetrailerworld.com/forum/images/decorations/multiple/100.gif) Location: Columbus, Ohio | Quite a list! If you go for all alum., stick with the top brands. All alum. is can be just as strong as alum. over steel but requires more attention to welds which can be tricky. Alum. is more expensive, and harder to fix if there is a problem. Good luck! |
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Location: wolverton,mn | Arlene 21 -nice info! glad to see what i have is on the top list!!!! thanks![](http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/emoticons/icon_aug4.gif) |
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