Did they fix the Ford 6.0?
chevalnoir
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Posted 2006-10-21 9:07 PM (#50380)
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I'm looking into buying a diesel and really want a GMC Duramax, but Ford is offering the better deal right now.So, the only way I'd get one is if I were sure they'd worked out the issues.Of course, they assured me that they have, but what do you experts think?
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Posted 2006-10-21 9:22 PM (#50382 - in reply to #50380)
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A good place to ask this question is here:

http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=2003Drivetrain1

The dieselstop is a forum for ford diesels, the link above will direct you to the 6.0 forum.  There are a lot of knowledgable people on there who should be able to give you info on the 6.0.  From what I understand, they have worked out a lot of the problems, but I'm not sure if all of them have been taken care of.



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Posted 2006-10-21 9:59 PM (#50384 - in reply to #50380)
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Hi there, What is wrong with the Ford 6.0?

I know someone who has an '05 powerstroke diesel 6.0 for sale and am considering possibly purchasing it. But didn't know about this.

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Posted 2006-10-21 11:15 PM (#50386 - in reply to #50384)
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Originally written by jackbrat on 2006-10-21 9:59 PM

Hi there, What is wrong with the Ford 6.0?

I know someone who has an '05 powerstroke diesel 6.0 for sale and am considering possibly purchasing it. But didn't know about this.



The short list is what ISN'T/WASN'T wrong with it.
It is not clear from the diesel forums that it is fixed, though every year they say that its too early to say yet that the latest improvements havn't fixed things. Double speak. By the reports on this forum, they still blow transmissions more than GM or Dodge.

BTW, just TODAY the mail brought me a warranty extension on the Duramax fuel injection system for the '03.
7 years or 200,000 miles, whichever comes first.
I figure if it goes that long, it will probably go well beyond Meg/2 (-:


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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2006-10-22 6:41 AM (#50387 - in reply to #50380)
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If buying new get the DuraMax! If buying used STILL get a DuraMax or a Dodge.The 06/07 Fords are improved but still a headache.The 03/04/05 Ford 6.0s are a bigger headache.Lots of folks on the Diesel sites are trying to move their 6.0s to new homes as the 100k warranty runs out for obvious reasons etc.I really LIKE the specs on the 08 Ford coming down the pike but until PROVEN lots of comments about who's gonna be the first guinea pigs to buy one etc.Do a comsumers buy new/used on 03 up Ford diesels and read.The info has been out there for a LONG time.



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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2006-10-22 3:32 PM (#50405 - in reply to #50380)
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I have two Ford 6.0's: 2003 w/ 48k miles and 2006 w/ less than 10k miles.  No problems with either.  In 2007 the new low emission requirements go into effect so we bought the second one now.  Replaced a Chevy.  The Duramax/Allison combo has had its share of problems.  As has been discussed to death on this forum, there are strengths and weaknesses in each of the big three (Ford, Chevy, Dodge).  Buy what works best for you.  Everyone has their opinion about what is best.  And opinion isn't fact!
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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2006-10-22 6:40 PM (#50412 - in reply to #50380)
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Opinion isn't a fact is very correct.BUT the consumer forums,RV forums,amount of warranty paid out,updates,technical service bulletins etc.are FACTS.The Ford 6.0 has been the LOSS LEADER for Ford.Thats not a opinion.Its a fact.Just do some product searching.As I stated I like the specs on the new 08 coming out in the 450/550 series but would not even think of one until mid 09 to see how they perform. I do stay abreast of such and I'm not a Ford hater by no means.Just want to make sure ythat folks that aren't aware are before buying  used (or new for that matter) a vehicle that could be a huge money pit.Ford is very aware of the 6.0s rep and has held off coming out wiith the 6.4 making sure it works.Lots of tech.info on some of changes of the 6.4 compared to the 6.0 on TheDieselstop.com

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chadsalt
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Posted 2006-10-22 7:27 PM (#50417 - in reply to #50380)
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granted all the big 3 have had their problems, most minor. however none have had such problems that actually made the news, EXCEPT for the 6.0 powerstroke.  i do not have any brand loyalty but this was enough for me not to consider the 6.0 fords when i was looking for my used truck, and if i needed a different used or new truck i still wouldnt consider the 6.0. its your money and any truck is a gamble, i just wont gamble my money on a truck with a known problem of such magnitude.
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chevalnoir
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2006-10-22 8:12 PM (#50421 - in reply to #50380)
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I didn't mean this as Ford bashing. Actually, I've been a Ford Girl all my life right up until the 6.0 disaster and I agree that none of the Big Three are pure as the driven snow.I'm just looking to minimize risk to increase my peace of mind when hauling my horse......and to do that it sounds like I'm gonna have to pass on the 6.0.Thanks, folks.
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Posted 2006-10-22 9:25 PM (#50428 - in reply to #50380)
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Yes Ford did fix the problem!!!! If you go to Fords web site for 2008 they have a new engine 6.4.
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Posted 2006-10-22 9:36 PM (#50430 - in reply to #50428)
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Originally written by cowboyscash on 2006-10-22 9:25 PM

Yes Ford did fix the problem!!!! If you go to Fords web site for 2008 they have a new engine 6.4.


I don't see that as evidence of them having FIXED anything.

It might be;
"OK, the 6.0 was a failure, it is over, is is dead, let's celebrate the 6.4".

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Reg. May 2005
Posted 2006-10-22 10:53 PM (#50440 - in reply to #50380)
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I had a 97, a 2000, a 2003 and now a 2006 Ford. 7.3L and 6.0L

My 6.0L were a better truck than my 7.3L

My 2003 6.0L had a few problems. Which Ford fixed with the warranty.ICP, VGT, And main problem was my EGT Back pressure sensor. Once they replaced that my problems went away. None of the problems that I had, ever left me stranded or endangered. Most were replaced while I  had the truck in for regular service.  My most frustrating problem was that my truck ran great at home. When I'd go to the mountains to ride my horses. When I tried to start up and go. The turbo would shut down and I had no power. The Back Pressure sensor would still think I was in the valley at lower elevation and would send a signal to the turbo to not over boost the engine.  Shut it off, restart and everything was fine. An inconviences, But never made me late for anything.

My 2006 has 18,000 miles and I have not had any problems with it. I have one of my three trailers hooked up to it almost daily. My GN horsetrailer is 13,000lbs loaded.  My Dump trailer is 5000lbs empty and I frequetly haul 8000lbs of rock in the dump trailer and my Skid loader is almost 7000lbs and it's trailer is 3000lbs. My trucks get worked.

I considered a Dura Max last march when I bought the 2006 Ford. But the Ford rebates were substantially more. Allowing me to buy the ford for several thousand $ less than a GM product.

The various diesel website all have a tendancy to show case the those with problems.  So you will always see more folks complaining than praising their trucks.  Ford sells more diesels than Dodge and GM combined. So with more owners there will be more complaints. The early 6.0L did have some problems. Some folks had bad injectors, which left them stranded or broke down. (I didn't and my 2003 6.0L was built the first week of production) The ICP, VGT and EGT affected most trucks. Ford started changing the computer programing and those changes seemed to affect how quite the engine was ( split shot inject was removed) Fuel mileage dropped a little.

The 6.0L is a little weak until the engine builds some RPMs and the turbo gets to work. That's why the new 2008 trucks will have a 6.4L with twin turbos. The extra displacement to help with low end torque, the twin sequntial turbos to help get boost quicker.

I suggest you drive all 3 makes and decide which one you like @ the prices available.

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Posted 2006-10-23 10:31 AM (#50454 - in reply to #50380)
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Just turned 7700 on My 06 F350 DRW cc long box 4.10.

Runs great,so far no problems.the compass modual is being replaced,it doesn't know wich way it's going.But neither do I sometimes.Just took a 700 mile Round trip deer hunt and boogied right along.15 min out of the truck and had a deer down and ready to cut up.

Really like it.Saw a Caddy with a smashed in windshield....deer jumped the car and landed on the windshield. Deer dead,people cut up a little.

Saw alot of chevys along the road with hoods up,not sure what that was about,no one around.



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Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2006-10-23 10:35 AM (#50455 - in reply to #50380)
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If I were you I would go and buy a used truck with low mileage that dosen't have any problems.  You can use the internet to research all of the big three.  Get on the Ford, GM, and Dodge boards. Ask your questions on those sites.  If they are jerks find another board.
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Posted 2006-10-23 10:44 AM (#50456 - in reply to #50380)
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When you narrow down your truck choice, take your first pick in to a dealer of that brand, if it isn't on a dealer lot.  Have them do a pre-purchase inspection.  Costs about $100, and in addition to checking everything out, the dealer will be able to pull the VIN# and tell you what, if any, warranty work has been done on that particular vehicle.  I bought my 2003 F350 used and did this, and the dealer provided records corresponding to what the seller said had been done.   I believe someone already recommended running a Carfax report.
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Posted 2006-10-23 10:47 AM (#50458 - in reply to #50380)
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$5.8 billion loss was "bigger than expected".

Hmmm, mayhap warranty repairs will be handled by Mazda or Kia a year or three from now ?

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justcruzin
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Posted 2006-10-23 11:46 AM (#50464 - in reply to #50380)
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I have a 2004, 2500 Dodge and a 2006 F350, I dislike the Dodge so much that I refuse to drive that truck! (The 04 was a buy back, we had an 03 that was the BIGGEST piece of crap, Tranny fell out on  I-10 in the middle of June, in PHOENIX, with 3 horses on!!!) Had such front end trouble that they NEVER did fix it, they decided to buy it back! The 04 tranny slips, Been in shop 3 times and the front end is starting to do the same thing that the 03 did! Never again will I own a Dodge! NEVER!!!

I  have had NO trouble with the Ford, My x has an 03 F250 4X4, has th 6.0, he has had NO trouble with the truck. Just general maintance. My son has an 06 Chevy with the Duramax and alison, its new so I cant say anything about that truck. (other than its a Chevy, lol)

So far, My Ford has had no trouble at all. I cant say that about the dodge! 

 

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Posted 2006-10-23 12:51 PM (#50467 - in reply to #50464)
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Originally written by justcruzin on 2006-10-23 9:46 AM

I have a 2004, 2500 Dodge and a 2006 F350, I dislike the Dodge so much that I refuse to drive that truck! (The 04 was a buy back, we had an 03 that was the BIGGEST piece of crap, Tranny fell out on  I-10 in the middle of June, in PHOENIX, with 3 horses on!!!) Had such front end trouble that they NEVER did fix it, they decided to buy it back! The 04 tranny slips, Been in shop 3 times and the front end is starting to do the same thing that the 03 did! Never again will I own a Dodge! NEVER!!!

I  have had NO trouble with the Ford, My x has an 03 F250 4X4, has th 6.0, he has had NO trouble with the truck. Just general maintance. My son has an 06 Chevy with the Duramax and alison, its new so I cant say anything about that truck. (other than its a Chevy, lol)

So far, My Ford has had no trouble at all. I cant say that about the dodge! 

 

Funny how autos are you could reverse the Ford and Dodge and that would be my story

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Posted 2006-10-23 1:34 PM (#50470 - in reply to #50467)
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I so do understand!  We had a 1998 Dodge that we traded for the 03, what a mistake, the 98 had close to 200,000 miles. Never had a problem with it! If I could turn back time!!
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Posted 2006-10-24 10:20 AM (#50528 - in reply to #50380)
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I will never own another Ford, even if they do get the issues fixed. Why,because Ford did not stand behind their product. I owned an F450 that only had 12k on before all hell broke loose. I replaced 9 injectors, a cylinder block, a high pressure oil pump, and a turbo clamp. I "tried" to tow 7 times last year and broke down 6 out of those 7. Ford paid for the repairs but nothing else ($3k in documented personal expenses because of the break downs) and would not replace or buy back the vehicle. They insisted that nothing was wrong with it! I loved the truck when it did run but it was NOT worth the headaches!
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Posted 2006-10-25 9:20 AM (#50576 - in reply to #50528)
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Originally written by hav2ride on 2006-10-24 10:20 AM

I will never own another Ford, even if they do get the issues fixed. Why,because Ford did not stand behind their product. I owned an F450 that only had 12k on before all hell broke loose. I replaced 9 injectors, a cylinder block, a high pressure oil pump, and a turbo clamp. I "tried" to tow 7 times last year and broke down 6 out of those 7. Ford paid for the repairs but nothing else ($3k in documented personal expenses because of the break downs) and would not replace or buy back the vehicle. They insisted that nothing was wrong with it! I loved the truck when it did run but it was NOT worth the headaches!


What year was it ?

Could have been driver error.

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Posted 2006-10-25 2:53 PM (#50609 - in reply to #50380)
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The items he posted that failed tells me what year/years it was.03 through 06.The Ford forums were(not as bad now but still) eaten up with the same sorta story over and over.
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Posted 2006-10-26 2:08 AM (#50637 - in reply to #50380)
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Ive been real happy with my 99 7.3 f250 would like a 6.0 but they seem to have problems, my ideal truck would have a Caterpillar motor and a ford badge on it 
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Posted 2006-10-26 9:10 AM (#50647 - in reply to #50576)
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It was a 2005 and I know how to drive a truck and trailer. My husband drove trucks and 2 of my best friends drove tractor trailers and taught me how to drive. I know how to watch the rpms, turbo pressure, yada, yada. BTW, there were no add ons other than cosmetic and an a aux fuel tank. I have talked to others that have had the same trouble with their Fords. I have also talked to some who are fairly happy. My main issue is how Ford handled the situation. They refused to do anything but repair it. That is not much consolation when you consistently break down 2 days from home with horses on a trailer!
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Posted 2006-10-26 9:45 AM (#50650 - in reply to #50380)
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Discussion going on last few days about buybacks,replacement trucks and starting buyback process on THE DIESELSTOP.COM
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Posted 2006-10-26 10:11 AM (#50655 - in reply to #50647)
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Originally written by hav2ride on 2006-10-26 7:10 AM

It was a 2005 and I know how to drive a truck and trailer. My husband drove trucks and 2 of my best friends drove tractor trailers and taught me how to drive. I know how to watch the rpms, turbo pressure, yada, yada. BTW, there were no add ons other than cosmetic and an a aux fuel tank. I have talked to others that have had the same trouble with their Fords. I have also talked to some who are fairly happy. My main issue is how Ford handled the situation. They refused to do anything but repair it. That is not much consolation when you consistently break down 2 days from home with horses on a trailer!

WELL ANSWERED THAT QUESTION,IT'S LIKE TRAILERS,YA FIND A GOOD DEALER AND THEN HEAR ABOUT BAD DEALERS.

PROBLEM IS IT RUINS THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE.

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Posted 2006-10-26 11:00 AM (#50660 - in reply to #50380)
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I hope I dont jinx it, I just turned over a 100,000 miles on my 2005 Stroker 6.0 and all I have had to do is replace my starter at around the 90,000 mile mark. This truck also has a 3H GN Charmac Trailer about 60% of the time, I travel thru all the southwest including Colorado with some pretty steep grades. My old man owns a service repair facility and he says they all have their problems. I guess mine was made on a teus. thru thurs.

MarkM

 

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Posted 2006-10-26 6:48 PM (#50689 - in reply to #50660)
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CHEVALNOIR. Did you post a question on THEDIESELSTOP forum requarding you intial post/question? They kinda got a cat fight going between the ones with all the issues verus the few with only minimun issues and the ones in denial.
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Posted 2006-10-26 8:19 PM (#50700 - in reply to #50380)
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Not about Ford 6.0 but about way Ford handles complaints. Bought a new 76 Ford PU w/ 460 and C6 trans that would jump out of park into reverse. After complaints and 3 separate dealers, I filed a formal complaint with National Transportation Safety Board. Ford flew a tech from Detroit to my local dealer to test drive. He as much as told me that I was a dumbass and didn't know how to drive, that I was not pushing the lever far enough to engage the pawl in the trans. Then Ford mailed a bright red sticker form me to place on the dash stating "Caution-Do not leave vehicle unattended while idling in park"  Ford was right, I was a dumbass for owning a Ford. There were several other people owning same trans model that were killed or injured by same actions. Wonder why I bought a GM afterwards and stayed with them?
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Posted 2006-10-27 5:14 AM (#50709 - in reply to #50380)
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Been a peroblem over the years with a number of vehicles.Old Ford in the 70s did the same thing and 03/04/05 Dodge trucks.The repairs on them are lame.Horn honks if in reverse drivers door opened.
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Posted 2006-10-27 9:42 AM (#50718 - in reply to #50380)
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Well that will take care of everything.....just put a sticker on it! Or take it to the dealer and let them stick it!
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Posted 2006-10-27 10:50 AM (#50721 - in reply to #50380)
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Back to Chevalnoir's original question:  Did Ford "fix" the problems with the 6.0?  Everyone points to the 6.4L engine coming out as proof the 6.0 was a failure.   As has been pointed out, there are lots of us with 6.0L's that are happy with them, have had no problems.  I think the truth of the matter is the 6.4L was brought up to address the new Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel that's coming out in 2007 and address new mileage and emission constraints.   Yeah I know, I'm putting on my flame suit in anticipation of the "Ford is bad" and "The 6.0 sucks" comments. 
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Posted 2006-10-27 12:26 PM (#50723 - in reply to #50380)
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Pretty much correct.

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Posted 2006-10-27 1:31 PM (#50726 - in reply to #50721)
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Originally written by headhunter on 2006-10-27 10:50 AM

Back to Chevalnoir's original question:  Did Ford "fix" the problems with the 6.0?  Everyone points to the 6.4L engine coming out as proof the 6.0 was a failure.   As has been pointed out, there are lots of us with 6.0L's that are happy with them, have had no problems.  I think the truth of the matter is the 6.4L was brought up to address the new Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel that's coming out in 2007 and address new mileage and emission constraints.   Yeah I know, I'm putting on my flame suit in anticipation of the "Ford is bad" and "The 6.0 sucks" comments. 

no flame here, but there was rumor of the 6.4 way to early for it to be for the new ulsd. all that r & d wasted on the 6.0 and starting over for the 6.4? the "basic" dmax was not scrapped, only adapted. the cummins???
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Posted 2006-10-27 2:07 PM (#50727 - in reply to #50721)
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Originally written by headhunter on 2006-10-27 10:50 AM

Back to Chevalnoir's original question: Did Ford "fix" the problems with the 6.0? Everyone points to the 6.4L engine coming out as proof the 6.0 was a failure. As has been pointed out, there are lots of us with 6.0L's that are happy with them, have had no problems. I think the truth of the matter is the 6.4L was brought up to address the new Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel that's coming out in 2007 and address new mileage and emission constraints. Yeah I know, I'm putting on my flame suit in anticipation of the "Ford is bad" and "The 6.0 sucks" comments.


"Lots of us" being a relatively small sample size.
Someone posted here that they have one with 65K miles and another one with 10K miles, no problems so far, but that is a meaningless sample.

The bulletin boards represent MUCH larger samples and are therefore more likely to reflect the probability that any one individual will be stuck with a Lemon from company X(Y or Z). Yes, even normalising for the additional volume of trucks that Ford sells.

Quality is clearly NOT job number 1 at Ford and hasn't been for quite some time now.

The Windsor 351 was a different story, so were the first generation Mustangs - happy daze indeed.

Here's a meaningless game with statistics for you;
I play golf sometimes, more accurately I play "at" golf.
Once in a while I get a par, once in a very great while I get a birdie.
Clearly I can make the shots, so I should be able to get a birdie on EVERY hole, EVERY time, right ?
18 under on a par 72 course ?
Sure, BIG MONEY if I could score 54s most week-ends, ANYTHING under 60 would do quite nicely (-:

{It isn't about once in a while quality, it is about repeatable quality.}

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Posted 2006-10-27 2:23 PM (#50730 - in reply to #50700)
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I had a 76 F100 that would jump out of park.  My dad didn't believe me and thought I was nuts for carrying tire chocks until he borrowed it to move.  He parked it on the street with out the chocks and in the morning it was gone.  He called the police and when they got there they informed him that the truck was at the end of the street halfway through someones garage door.  It wasn't much of a hill, but oviously enough to get it rolling.

I didn't realize that it was a "problem" and not just my truck.

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Posted 2006-10-27 2:32 PM (#50733 - in reply to #50721)
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I heard a while back on the Dieselstop that the dual turbo was to try to fix the fact that the 6.0 turbos were always failing. We shall see. Maybe both turbos will blow.
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Posted 2006-10-27 2:40 PM (#50735 - in reply to #50380)
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Just have to wait and see.Add that to cracked  Chevy heads and cracked cylinders on Cummins coupled with their bad injection pumps,but.....It's like huntin sometimes you eat the bear sometimes the bear eats you!

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Posted 2006-10-27 2:58 PM (#50739 - in reply to #50735)
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On the Dodge you are talking about the 53 blocks that would crack, and the VP44's that would go out.  Both of these were in the first 24 valve trucks.  The new 3rd Gen has been perty good.  Do have a few people with injector issues. Some people think it is because of the pressure boxes they use and others think it is because of the need for better filtration (fuel filters).  I have the 48re and have not done the recall.  It's stupid and I don't want to do it.  I don't leave the truck running (wastes fuel) and if I do I use the E-brake. Yes, every brand has their quirks.  I hope people driving Fords, Chevys, and Dodges have good luck with their trucks.  Each one will kick out a turd truck from time to time. Ford has just done it more than the other two the last 3 years.
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Posted 2006-10-27 3:24 PM (#50742 - in reply to #50380)
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One of the MAIN reasons of twin tubo's on the 6.4 is the 6.0 made poor low end power.It was lacking low end grunt.
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Posted 2006-10-27 3:36 PM (#50744 - in reply to #50380)
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One band-aid after another. Ford had a perfectly good engine in the 7.3L, they just needed to tweek it for more HP and torque to keep pace in the diesel wars. Most 7.3L owners that feel the need for more power can upgrade injectors or chip the truck and voila...more power than the 6.0 with the reliability of the 7.3L. The 6.0 is quieter.

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Posted 2006-10-27 5:01 PM (#50747 - in reply to #50380)
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EPA Muti valve cleaner burning engines.Smaller and more ligfhtweight etc.
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Posted 2006-10-27 10:37 PM (#50759 - in reply to #50660)
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Mark, That's a lot of miles in two years.

Just curious, What are you doing that requires that much driving?

I'll have to hit you up on some new trails to ride around St George.

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Posted 2006-10-28 10:02 AM (#50766 - in reply to #50742)
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"One of the MAIN reasons of twin tubo's on the 6.4 is the 6.0 made poor low end power.It was lacking low end grunt."I didn't find that my 450 lacked power at all, including low end. In fact, it had tremendous power, when it would run! I have "heard" that the twin turbos idea is to try to rectify the blowing single turbo. There is just too much pressure on the single turbo. I actually started carrying around a spare turbo clamp! I was lucky though. At leasst I didn't blow out the turbo itself like a lot of others did.
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Posted 2006-10-28 10:33 AM (#50767 - in reply to #50380)
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The automatic 6 speed torqueshift trans basicly splits 1st and 2nd gear to get a load moving.The manual 6 speed version had the biggest compliant about no low power like  a Cummins etc. 6.0 makes peak torque further up the power range then a Cummins and slightly higher then a D/max. I've read a number of posts about eaither having to jump on the clutch or really get into the rpm range to get big loads moving. Like moving round bales out of fields etc.The Cummins will walk at idle slow when its needed.The twin turbo is to help make more usable power over a broader rpm range.
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Posted 2006-10-30 9:12 AM (#50811 - in reply to #50739)
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Originally written by Spooler on 2006-10-27 2:58 PM

On the Dodge you are talking about the 53 blocks that would crack, and the VP44's that would go out.  Both of these were in the first 24 valve trucks.  The new 3rd Gen has been perty good.  Do have a few people with injector issues. Some people think it is because of the pressure boxes they use and others think it is because of the need for better filtration (fuel filters).  I have the 48re and have not done the recall.  It's stupid and I don't want to do it.  I don't leave the truck running (wastes fuel) and if I do I use the E-brake. Yes, every brand has their quirks.
I hope people driving Fords, Chevys, and Dodges have good luck with their trucks.  Each one will kick out a turd truck from time to time. Ford has just done it more than the other two the last 3 years.


Maybe because there are so many out there.
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Posted 2006-10-30 9:58 AM (#50819 - in reply to #50380)
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Maybe because so many 6.0s fell apart.Even on the Ford sites they always say buying a 6.0 is a big crap shoot.Its been PROVEN that the 6.0 was a huge exspensive headache for everyone involved in them.Its a fact not because theres a lot of them.
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Posted 2006-10-30 12:42 PM (#50843 - in reply to #50380)
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Cripes, instead of whining about repeated failures on these pickups, why not buy one of these?http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/truckdetail.asp?ID=3041(rummaging through pockets for more change)
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Posted 2006-10-30 1:08 PM (#50844 - in reply to #50759)
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Painted Horse,

I am an outside sales rep for Charmac Trailers.  Where abouts from Utah are you from?

 

MarkM

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Posted 2006-10-30 2:22 PM (#50851 - in reply to #50380)
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Link dosen't work.
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Posted 2006-10-30 3:30 PM (#50861 - in reply to #50380)
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That's not whining thats that Allison transmission,I guess it does wine a little.Some cheese and were all set!
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Posted 2006-10-30 6:39 PM (#50870 - in reply to #50380)
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Everyone needs to go to www.thedieselstop.com.  I checked it out this weekend.  I couldn't believe some of the stuff. It was just down right an eye opener.  Ford Tech said he PDI(Pre delivery Inspection) on some new 6.0's that came off the car hauler. When they pulled them off they were pouring coolant.  It wasn't one it was 2 trucks. Said he saw it happen several times. No wonder they lost so much money last quarter. Unbelievable!!!!!!!
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Posted 2006-10-31 10:39 AM (#50899 - in reply to #50851)
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Originally written by hounddog on 2006-10-30 2:22 PM

Link dosen't work.
could be because darn site wouldn't make it a link (live variety)

copy and paste it into your browser's location bar and hit the go button, it's there.

http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/truckdetail.asp?ID=3041

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Posted 2006-10-31 10:47 AM (#50901 - in reply to #50861)
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Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2006-10-30 3:30 PM

That's not whining thats that Allison transmission,I guess it does wine a little.Some cheese and were all set!


Wine is OK, certainly better than the "SOUR GRAPES" that the Ferd owners seem to be experiencing (-:

BTW, MY Allison is SO quiet.
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Posted 2006-10-31 12:08 PM (#50903 - in reply to #50380)
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Wow, folks, what a debate. As an update, I did speak to someone at Ford over the phone about one of their 6.0s on the lot. I said, "Swear to me this isn't an issue". He said, "Hang on and let me go back to service and check on the this engine". Came back on the line and said it was ok. I don't remember verbatum, but I think he was checking on the date it had been made. When I went down to the dealership, that truck was sold. Spoke to the same guy and he swore we hadn't had the conversation we'd had. He said all the engines were just fine.

After all this, I think I'm actually going to wind up downgrading my trailer to a 2H BP and going with gas.



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Posted 2006-10-31 1:24 PM (#50905 - in reply to #50380)
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Ford dosen't make the only diesels.  You still have the Chevy Durmax and the Dodge w/ Cummins which are both very nice trucks. Go drive each one at least before you make your decision to buy gas. Since Chevy bumped their warranty up to 100,000 miles they are worth looking at for sure. Go check and see.
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Posted 2006-10-31 2:33 PM (#50912 - in reply to #50380)
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I"m downgrading due to finances....not a lack of good options. I LOVED the GMC Duramax and if I did have the $$$, I'd be getting it for sure.
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