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Location: Kamloops, British Columbia | does anybody know how much a coggins test costs to have done and how long the results are good for? |
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Location: North Carolina | cost depends on the vet... most requirements in the United States is less than one year old. BC may be different. |
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Location: michigan | Depends on your vet...it costs me about 50 bucks to test and most are good for one year but breed associations differ- arabian horse assocaition requirers a negative coggins within the past 6 mons in order to show. |
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Location: West Coast | My vet charges between $ 45 and $ 60.00 for a coggins. In California and many other states the Coggins test for out-of-state horses cannot be more than 6 months old and Health certificates cannot be more than 30 days old. |
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Location: Northern Utah | A lot of the coggins pricing depends on HOW FAST you need the papers back. If the vet has to overnight the blood sample to the lab it's going to cost more than if you give the vet two weeks to get the results back. So planning ahead helps. My vet charges me $30 and that also includes my 1st health certificate. Addition health certs are $15 each. Health Certificates are usually good for 30 days. But only to the locations named on the certs. Various states here in the west have different times on the coggins. Utah is 12 months. I believe Wyoming is 6 months. So you need to check with the location you are traveling to. Also even with a negative coggins some states will not let you travel in or through if your horse has been kept with "x" number of miles of an out break of certain diseases like VS. Last summer Idaho issued restriction that you had to have a vet exam the day prior to travel if you lived in certain counties of Utah because we had a case of VS here in the county. And if you lived with in 10 miles of the outbreak, you could not travel at all, regardless of the vet check. |
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Location: White Mills, Ky. | Wow! We only pay $20 for coggins tests. They are usually back in a week. For trail horses they are good for a year but show grounds and sale grounds require it to be less than 6 months old. RIDE ON! |
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Location: michigan | of course, farm calls are extra! |
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Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey | We call the vet and they send them to us the next day. We se the vet alot with TB's that we board so they take good care of us on our own stuff. Coggins are so much BS that the vet doesn't even draw blood. Now as far as the health papers they won't fudge on them. Our coggins are good for a year and health papers 30 days. |
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Location: Northern Utah | There are vets here that offer a Coggins day each spring. All Coggins are $8. So you can get them cheap. My vet charges $30 and gives a free health certificate. Which is worth $15. So that makes the coggins $15. I always wondered about validity of the coggins. A lot can change in a year. It seems like an long time to have the test be valid. But I'd sure hate to have to draw blood and have a coggins monthly. |
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Location: Southern IN | Our vet charges $30.00 for Coggins;$10.00 for Health Certificate. We haul - as farmbabe says, farm calls are extra! Here in IN, Coggins are good for a yr; Health Cert for 30 days....
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Location: Grapeland, Texas | The last coggins I got, first of the year, was $20.00. You can also get a quick coggins, in an hour, for $25.00. Good for 12 months. Health papers are also $15.00 here. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Some STATES are 6 month states others are a 12.Coggins that is.Have to check each state.Georgia is 12 and South Carolina is a 6. Think I pay $25.00 |
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| Originally written by HWBar on 2006-08-28 12:50 PM
Coggins are so much BS that the vet doesn't even draw blood. Now as far as the health papers they won't fudge on them.
Wow a little old but just caught this. Where is your vets ethics. Holly Cow! He really does not pull blood. WOW, is this illegal or what?!?!?!?!
Now what I do find funny is here in Florida a OCVI is required not a HEALTH CERTIFICATE as many call it. Official Certificate of Veterinarian Insepection. I never grasped how taking a rectal temp is proving the health of the animal for a certificate??? What happens when that horse comes down with something like strangles, flu, or rhino on day 29?
Oh and 10-14 day turn around coggins $32 - 48 hours $65 This is for the digital coggins that has the actual 3 views of the horse on it.
OCVI run $30-45 depending on visit. We also have the option of extending our OCVI for 6 months to the following states Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia. |
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Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey | Originally written by yippeekiyo on 2006-09-09 10:15 PM
Originally written by HWBar on 2006-08-28 12:50 PM
Coggins are so much BS that the vet doesn't even draw blood. Now as far as the health papers they won't fudge on them.
Wow a little old but just caught this. Where is your vets ethics. Holly Cow! He really does not pull blood. WOW, is this illegal or what?!?!?!?!
Now what I do find funny is here in Florida a OCVI is required not a HEALTH CERTIFICATE as many call it. Official Certificate of Veterinarian Insepection. I never grasped how taking a rectal temp is proving the health of the animal for a certificate??? What happens when that horse comes down with something like strangles, flu, or rhino on day 29?
Oh and 10-14 day turn around coggins $32 - 48 hours $65 This is for the digital coggins that has the actual 3 views of the horse on it.
OCVI run $30-45 depending on visit. We also have the option of extending our OCVI for 6 months to the following states Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia.
I take it that you are a vet? When was the last time you had a horse with a positive coggins? That's why I say they are BS and so does my vet. $65 for a coggins with my horses picture? I have the horse I don't need his picture.
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Negitive coggins DO happen.Its not common because of COGGINS testing. I personaly know of a few barns/stables that had a postive show up and it was a mess.How does a vet NOT draw blood when the LAB issues the stamp and coggins papers??? I'll agree some aspects of it are bull.NEVER have I had anyone that ever asked for proof of coggins match it to the animal etc. |
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Location: michigan | The state dept of ag tests the blood in order to issue a report. not sure how a vet would manage it without drawing blood unless they take out a box of crayons, a piece of paper and draw it. BS or not,if i want to show my horse, I need a neg coggins. Its the rpice we pay......
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Location: KS | Wow! I feel lucky, in Kansas I paid $17 for coggins and get my health cert.'s free. A couple of the places I ride in AR & MO do check the papers, but alot of others don't. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Vet I use does a fairly decent look over on a health cert.Montiors heart,temp,looks at eyes,looks legs over,looks at sex/anal items.Granted its fairly quick but he ganders at a horse pretty good. |
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Location: Illinois | Yeah, it kills me how when it was made law to take horses to public/organized riding events to have a coggins how it shot up from $10 to $20 and is currently $30 with my vet. Gotta love it. The price of horse ownership. |
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Location: Florida |
I take it that you are a vet? When was the last time you had a horse with a positive coggins? That's why I say they are BS and so does my vet. $65 for a coggins with my horses picture? I have the horse I don't need his picture.
Nope, not a Vet at all. I'm just someone in my 29 years of life that has seen cases. I used to get to go to the Monday cattle auction during the summer as a kid. I was puzzled and excited the first time I saw a horse there to be auctioned off. When I questioned it, I was told it was for the meat men and it would be sold with the brucelloisis positive cows because it was coggins positive. Talk about breaking a young girls heart. Then less then 10 years ago I visited a farm to look at some calves. There was a horse there with large identify brands on it. When I inquired about it I was told it was a positive coggins horse that the owners kept quarantined on their home. That horse could never leave and no other horses could come. They had bought enough land to meet the requirements to quarantine him.
So you can live in your FA LA LA LA world where it does not exist. But meanwhile I will continue to have my guys tested annually and be thankful that the people I choose to associate with in the horse world also feel the same way. I hope to never have to experience a coggins positive horse but I guess as long as there are people out there falsify coggins there is that risk.
Just on a side note our regular fee of $32 for our coggins included the digital coggins pic also. I was against it at first, I thought it was a good way for vets to make more money, but after seeing some pretty crappy drawings or if any drawings at all on coggins, I would much prefer to have something like a real pic. Oh and seeing that I live in a Hurricane state IMO it is an extra bonus.
I love my vet, yes, he is a little higher than some in the area but I know he will be there if I need him. I have heard too many horror stories where no vets would respond to someone's emergency. So if he needs to charge what he does to take care of his family, then he should do it. Look around what isn't high priced anymore??? |
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I have to agree with the digital picture thing. I have the card (passport my husband calls it) for my horses. I keep them in my wallet like a credit card. It is nice having a real picture of my horse instead of some teenage vet techs poor drawing. (No offense to teenage vet tech's). I also live in Florida, I live along I10 about 1/2 mile from the Ag. check point, some of the travelers coming through our wonderful state thinks its a pain to stop and have their animals inspected before being allowed to enter our state, but I for one appreciate the efforts of the Agriculture dept. I spend a lot of money every year to keep my animals healthy and I am glad that anyone can't just bring their sickly horses through here to infect mine.
Cheating on a coggins is like driving around with no insurance on your vehicle, the only people it ever effects are the law abiding citizens, the ones who pay their dues and live life honestly. I too think that coggins testing is BS. You can have your horse tested one day and be negative but it can get infected the next day and be positive for the remainder of the year and you would never know it, however, I like to know from one year to the next if my horses are okay and if they are a threat to anyone elses horses.
If we all were allowed to bend the rules to fit our personal needs then we would have caos, wouldn't we?
Any Vet that has taken the oath to protect and service our animals should be heavily reprimanded for falsifing a coggins!!
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Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey | I live in central Kentucky(horse country), my family has had horses my whole life(draft pulling horses), I team rope once a month with usually 25-50 people there, I lived and worked on TB farm as a youngster, Needless to say I have been around a few horses in my life. I have never seen a positive coggins horse. From the response on this thread 2 people out of 5 or 6 responding here have seen a positive coggins horse. They must be alot more common than I thought they were. My vet don't draw the blood because he has all our horses on record, he issues a coggins for all 4 at once actually they will be done the end of this month. We get them done before we go out west riding every Oct. they are good for a year. I'll ask him in a couple of weeks how many positive coggins horses he has seen. He only works on horses so we'll see. |
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Location: pensacola, fl | About 10 years ago we had some folks down the road from us with 6 beautiful Paint horses, 5 out of the 6 came back positive one year after a coggins test. Since the owners didn't have enough property to quarintine the horses they were destroyed. The one was sold and the people have never returned to the horse business,very sad. Of course it paniced us too death, but luckily we had no problems. I am kinda curious though how common it really is, I think I'll ask my vet also. |
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Location: KS | Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the blood samples had to go to a state lab, and then they sign the coggins papers. I don't know how you could have coggins tests done without drawing the blood. One of our 4H kids horse came down with it 3 years ago. It was very heartbreaking. |
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Location: West Coast | Originally written by Z71 on 2006-09-12 11:00 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the blood samples had to go to a state lab, and then they sign the coggins papers. I don't know how you could have coggins tests done without drawing the blood. One of our 4H kids horse came down with it 3 years ago. It was very heartbreaking. Our coggins are sent to a lab and the lab signs off on the test and includes a test#. Infact, a few years ago, I forgot to get a coggins for one of my horses until the day before we were leaving. My vet came out and drew blood and put "pending" on the certificate. The test was negative, but my vet got a nasty call from the State of Nevada, telling her never to do that again. I have no idea how a vet could issue a coggins certificate without a blood test.
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Location: Florida | Originally written by HWBar on 2006-09-12 12:49 PM
I'll ask him in a couple of weeks how many positive coggins horses he has seen. He only works on horses so we'll see.
This could be ineresting since it sounds like he doesn't test all his horses in his practice.16
And for those that are wondering about the state lab and blood samples. Some vet offices are set up to run in house testing in their own lab with out sending out to a private/state lab, so that is how they possibly get a way with it. It just takes numbers. |
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Location: Memphis, TN | Twenty bucks here....takes about 3 days to get results back. All the trail rides we go to require the certificate. |
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Location: Lone Oak, Tx | I've heard of one horse around my area that had come down with EIA. From what I understand if the horse(s) tests positive, the first time, they quarentine the horse(s) and run another test. If that one comes up positive, they run another. If that one comes up postive, then the horse(s) are either destryed or quarentined perminately. Most are destroyed as was this ne and 2 other that were around it that tesed positive on all 3 tests. Again this is what I have read from what the state published. All tests are handles by a stae certified lab and if the first test comes up positive, then the state ag dept gets involved. Ours are good for a year and run, from my vet about $32.00. If you go to a state park here in Tejas that has horse trails, the park rangers DO CHECK for coggins. Yeah for them. I've been to many of my wifes barrel events and they never check. Even some of my endurance rides never check but then I send a copy of my horses coggins when I pre-enter.
As far as not having blood drawn for the test, I find it highly unlikely that the coggins papers you have are legal, if that is the case. And in actuallality if your vet gets caught giving out falsified documents he could very much so lose his license, if not worse, but that's the chance he seems to be willing to take. As far as that goes, even though cases of EIA do not seem to be fairly common, they are out there and are contagious and do not have a cure. I will continue to get my horses tested because there are people like out there who seem to be willing to risk the health of others animals. You can do some good reading about the diesease they are testing for: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/vs/nahps/equine/eia/
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Location: Davie, FL | Add another "I've seen it" to the poll. My friend (who is a vet) and I used to ride some pasos that belonged to a rich guy who never rode. When we started riding, none of them had current tests (although, presumably, they came with negative papers when he bought them) so when we began riding them to a nearby park we figured they needed coggins tested. The FIRST one my friend pulled blood on, her FAVORITE horse, came back positive! He had never been sick, and there was no way of knowing how long he'd been positive. A horse vet friend of my friend told her she had pulled over 10,000 without a positive but that's neither here nor there. The rest of the herd tested negative, were quarantined for 6 months, retested negative again and are still negative to this day. The positive horse went to live a happy long life at a ranch just for EIA horses. Incidentally, at this ranch they had a negative horse that lived with the carriers for over 20 years (in a high mosquito area!) and he NEVER got EIA. Go figure! But the bottom line is: it DOES happen! What is the big deal anyway? Its a once a year expense that is the LEAST of the expenses incurred by horse ownership. Be responsible for yourself and everyone else--get the test run legally!! Just my 2 cents. Lisa |
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Location: KS | I would still like to know how the vet in Kentucky (a few messages back) does a coggins without drawing blood. |
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Location: Romulus, Michigan | I'd like to know that also. Our horses are in KY and need blood drawn for coggins just like everywhere else. What is the vet's name, does anyone know? |
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Location: salem Illinois 62881 | may be this Vet. does not think he has to do coggins, so therefor he falsifies it, for I was told by my vet that the day you draw for coggins lets you know THAT DAY that your horse did not have coggins. He could still get coggins a week from the date you drew blood for coggins. I don't know if that is true but that is what my vet says. I have no idea how long coggins stays in dormant before it becomes active. I guess it depends on the horse. Some states like Missouri requires a coggins every six month. For safety reason???? More Money????? I don't know. I do coggins on my horses because it is required by state law and to give buyers a peace of mind that the horse is healthy. If what the vet told me is true is it worth getting the test done? Is it more money for the Vets? Is it a safety measure for the horse itself and a peace of mind for us? Or do we just do it because? |
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Location: MO | People with healthy horses don't have a problem with paying for Coggins testing because they want to keep them healthy. I have no problem paying for the tests. Where I DO have a problem is that NO ONE ever truely checks the Coggins papers. The few times when I've been asked for the papers, nobody compared them to the horses in my trailer.
What good is that?
One time the woman who was checking the papers took a long time studying them. I asked why so long? She said that she was looking to see where it said 'positive' or 'negative'. I said that if it said 'positive', we sure wouldn't be here. By the way, she never even looked at our horses.
The one time that the papers were compared to the actual horses was when we stopped in South Dakota for the brand inspection. The brand inspector had us unload and he did compare the papers to the animals. We now have permanant brand inspection certificates that are really Proof of Ownership. That we keep in our truck with the coggins and health certificates.
By the way, we live in Missouri and the coggins is good for 12 months, not 6. WHoever told you 6 months was wrong.
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Location: NY | In NY state parks are checking coggins papers before you unload. no papers there tell you to go home and the take down your plate number |
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| I live in Morgantown Kentucky and need to get a coffins test done one my Horse anybody in Ky know a good vet ? |
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Location: Hoosierville | Just my 2 cents, but at the local sale barn in Shipshewana, Indiana, they draw the blood for coggins testing AFTER the sale. Again, how does that really make any sense if it is so contagious? |
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Location: Arkansas | Yes, I have seen Positive EIA test horses, was contracted to haul them as a matter of fact, to their final destination. EIA testing works, would work very well if every equine was tested, rather than the same ones year after year avoiding testing. Any vet that gives an EIA test without a blood draw is in violation of Federal law, and any health certificate with such Accession EIA #'s on it is also completely illegal. This vet is doing you and his practice a grave disservice... and will lose his license when he gets caught. |
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