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Location: Ontario - east of TO | I have a friend that is wondering about how to secure bales of hay in the first stall so that they will not slide under the divider and the next horse. Looking for temporary/removable solution. I know there was a thread on this a while ago but I can't seem to find it. So I'm looking for ideas to pass along and/or a link to the past thread. |
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Location: North Carolina | I use a couple of 2x4's to keep the bales off the floor in case the urine is more than the shavings can handle. To keep the bales from shifting or falling over I have an assortment of bungie cords that attach to various holes in the bulkhead wall. No protruding hooks or eyes. Have had from one to a dozen bales in the third stall. Works for me. |
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Location: michigan | I haven't had bales slide. I store bales,bags of feed,plastic tine forks and tubs- the only thing that slid was the tub and it didn't go far nor cause any major upset from the horses. |
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Location: Lone Oak, Tx | I made a stud divider with a rubber mat and some hardware (see here: http://todd.redwrench.com/Shell.htm )for less than $100.00 and that keeps things from getting under their feet. We use out first stall majority of the time for storage. I also keep my bales in bale bags as well as on top of a pallet that I cut to fit the stall. Hope this helps.
Safe Riding,
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Location: Delta, B.C. Canada | Our first stall is a stallion stall with escape door, we quite often use it for hay, have had up to 6 bales plus our folding picnic table, we secure it with bungie cords and haven't had a problem. We once put a tarp down first, then the hay, then wrapped the tarp up and over and secured it. No problems at all. |
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Location: La Crosse, WI - God's Country | We built a stud divider for the bottom section out of plywood. Mainly use it for storage & cargo since the only studs we ever haul are yearlings at most!
Recently hauled 15 bales of certified weed free hay to South Dakota - they all fit in the first stall. I put the hay on a tarp covering the floor and going up the divider in case the pee river for some reason ran forward (geldings...).
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Location: michigan | Stud walls may have their purpose but it also prevents the horse from spread out their legs for balance. |
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Location: La Crosse, WI - God's Country | Sure, they can stretch out wherever there's room - but what's the difference between the stud wall and the frontmost stall wall? Just one less stall. I don't think most folks load their trailers with this in mind. Otherwise we'd all need three horse slant load trailers for one horse each. Or five for two, but then they might step on one anothers' toes... |
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Location: michigan | The point is sometimes they need to widen their stance for balance- a stud wall prevents this . I would weigh the concern over a bale sliding ( which is questionable anyway) versus giving the horse the most possible freedom to keep their balance. Naturally, this can be one of those preference issues. Do people load horses with these concerns in mind> Nope- if we did, the horses would likely be traveling backwards.....
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Location: Ontario - east of TO | Thanks everyone - I'll pass it on. |
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Location: sc | Originally written by laxpatrick on 2005-09-07 3:02 PM but what's the difference between the stud wall and the frontmost stall wall? i believe the point farmbabe is trying to make is if there is a stud wall and a frontmost stall wall, then there is no where to spread out. if only a front stall wall at least they can spread out to one side. and if we had our horses best interest in mind....we would just leave them in the field. they would rather just eat, crap, and sleep anyway.
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Location: Oregon | If a horse would need to spread his feet that far apart for balance (they are already standing at a slant), the driver is going too fast around corners, braking too hard and accelerating too fast. I don't have a stud wall in any of my stalls and I usually haul with all stalls full. My horses would end up scraping eachother's lower legs all up if they were to spread their feet apart that much. Mine never have. And my full wall is not all scraped up from horses trying to do this. IMO, a stud wall does not inhibit a horse's balance. I think the OP wanted the stud wall in there anyway because they use the first stall for storage. So there would be no difference in a stud wall or the full wall in front. It would still be a wall on the left side only for the horse. |
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Location: michigan | You're assuming that a horse would NEVER have to spread their stance for balance and ,of course ,thats not the case even if the driver is slow and careful. I think your taking this to the extreme- widening the stance would hardly result in scraping of the lower leg. My horses have not scraped nor stepped upon the other horse either- I don't have stud walls. I also do not wrap their legs but again thats a personal perference. While legs wraps can serve a purpose, there are also drawbacks. Stud walls- samething. I think its a smarter move to understand both the good,bad and the ugly before adding a stud wall. |
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Location: La Crosse, WI - God's Country | Let's see... rationale for the stud wall - intent is to use the frontmost stall for storage. Good: Big storage space, akin to a "mid tack" for some folks. Bad: Um... the horse was going to be in the frontmost stall, so no difference there... They were either going to be up against the trailer wall or the lower panel of the divider ("stud wall"). Ugly: Pee all over your "mid tack" stuff because one of the geldings unleashed hot liquid yellow fury... That's where my tarp comes in. I try to put a mare up front if possible. |
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Location: Oregon | I'm not saying that a horse NEVER has to spread its legs for balance. I'm just saying a stud divider is not going to prevent them from getting their balance. If they have to widen their stance that far that a stud divider would get in the way, yes, it could cause an injury to the next horse. After all, they do have to pick that foot up and set it down. Something to ponder....What is the reason for a stud divider to be there when you have a horse in there? Is it not to protect the horse(s)? |
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Location: South Dakota | I use a piece of plywood leaned up against the divider in my first stall. I've used the same piece of plywood in 4 different horse trailers over the years (keep getting bigger trailers). Never seemed to be an issue with bracing legs and I don't worry about my hay or shavings sliding back. Slides right out the front escape door if I need to haul more horses. Cheap and quick fix! |
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| I went with the rubber mat same as maccwall above. Easy to install, and it's flexable enough that if a horse was to need to widen it's stance, it would give at the bottom. I still tie everything to bulkhead wall. I installed a couple of extra "D" rings to tie to. Don't want anything shifting around and causing a spook. |
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Location: PA | Before I had a trailer with a stud wall, I fastened strong D rings to the bulk head wall near the floor and about 3/4 up. Then I took some baling twine and tied it to the bottom rings, layed the hay bales on top and stacked it up. Then I used more twine to fasten the bottom twine to the top D rings. I would also use some twine to fasten a bale near the top to the top ring. I never had a bale move. |
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Location: Michigan | I have an idea. Let's rig up video cameras in our trailers so we can really see what goes on inside the trailer while horses are being hauled. We are making assumptions here on how our horses travel in our trailers. Stud divider, lower hanging divider, do what you want. If your horse seems content and quiet in your trailer with either then leave it at that. |
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Location: michigan | I am, in fact, referring to an artcile written by a veterarian on trailering safety- the injuries seen most by vets when horses are trailered. But again, personal prefernce plays a big role when we haul our horses. Again- stud walls have pros and cons. there are many ways of securing a load as mentioned in other posts. |
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Location: La Crosse, WI - God's Country | I don't think it matters if the horseys are playing Texas Hold 'em in there while we're blissfully driving along... (though the lack of thumbs would make shuffling a PITA). If you're using the first one for storage, it's no different than the wall. If you're concerned about its presence when you have to put a horse up there, take out the stud wall. That whole argument against storage-necessitated stud walls because of the "wall" thing is silly. |
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