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Location: The Land of Ahs | Okay guys and Mr. Truck, please help me out!
Is a 2003 Dodge 2500 4x4 crew cab w/ 5.7 L V8 fuel injected engine with towing package comparable to a 2000 Chevy 2500 4x4 w/6.0 L v8 engine? I don't trust the salesmen who tell me the Dodge truck will "do the job" just as well as a Chevy. My trailer is 21'box length, alum 3H w/LQ, tongue wt. 2K and total loaded w/3 horses (which I've never done) and all my stuff would be 10K. We're keeping the 2000 Chevy, I just don't want to give up any power in the second truck, but the price is good on the Dodge and I can't find a Chevy even close to it. Thanks for any help and happy trails.
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Location: Tipton, IN | According to Dodge, the max towing capacity, if it is a long bed with a 4.10 rearend, is 10,700. If it is a 3.73 rearend it's only 8,700. If it is a short bed the weight goes up 100 pounds on each due to the lighter truck. Here is the link for future reference. http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehicle_to_weight.jsp?year=3 |
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Location: Albany, Oregon | IMHO....Are they autos? You are basicly comparing apples to apples. The Dodge(349ci) has the quad cab(more weight?). The Chevy(367ci)is still basicly in the same class...I don't think either is rated to tow 10,000lbs.(not sure?) That would be my question to the dealer...the facts man! Not it will do the job. I have a 2500 dodge diesel auto and it is rated at just short of 10,000lbs. Sure you can exceded that (and I have) but if I knew I was going to pull a possible 10,000-11,000 lb trailer all the time I would be looking for a dually. More excellent opinions will follow I'm sure! |
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Location: Kansas City | I pull my 3H CM slant with a 02 Ram 1500 with the old 5.9L V8 which the Hemi completely replaced in '03. I would say NO to the Dodge and I am completely happy with mine. My truck has all the power I need for my 3 horses and tack - However, you are adding extra weight for the 3/4 ton chasis, about 800 lbs for the 4x4 option, and you are wanting to pull more weight than I do. While I have argued that half tons are completely acceptable and capable of towing I think you have stepped over the std truck train of thought. Consider going with a diesel and heavier tranny. |
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Location: sc | Originally written by xyzer on 2005-08-10 2:46 PM IMHO....Are they autos? You are basicly comparing apples to apples. The Dodge(349ci) has the quad cab(more weight?). The Chevy(367ci)is still basicly in the same class...I don't think either is rated to tow 10,000lbs.(not sure?) That would be my question to the dealer...the facts man! Not it will do the job. I have a 2500 dodge diesel auto and it is rated at just short of 10,000lbs. Sure you can exceded that (and I have) but if I knew I was going to pull a possible 10,000-11,000 lb trailer all the time I would be looking for a dually. More excellent opinions will follow I'm sure! |
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Location: Albany, Oregon | Originally written by chadsalt on 2005-08-10 3:04 PM Originally written by xyzer on 2005-08-10 2:46 PM IMHO....Are they autos? You are basicly comparing apples to apples. The Dodge(349ci) has the quad cab(more weight?). The Chevy(367ci)is still basicly in the same class...I don't think either is rated to tow 10,000lbs.(not sure?) That would be my question to the dealer...the facts man! Not it will do the job. I have a 2500 dodge diesel auto and it is rated at just short of 10,000lbs. Sure you can exceded that (and I have) but if I knew I was going to pull a possible 10,000-11,000 lb trailer all the time I would be looking for a dually. More excellent opinions will follow I'm sure! xlyer, if you dont mind me asking what model/year/options/etc do you have that causes that low rating on your dodge? oops! http://dodgeram.info/2003/load-tow/2500.html Looked it up again 11,750#s...my flatbed is rated at 10,000lbs..anyway it is a "03" std output 4x4 quad cab auto 3:73...with a chip. If I always pulled 10,000lbs I'd still get a dually (maybe). |
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Location: sc | Originally written by xyzer on 2005-08-10 4:46 PM Originally written by chadsalt on 2005-08-10 3:04 PM Originally written by xyzer on 2005-08-10 2:46 PM IMHO....Are they autos? You are basicly comparing apples to apples. The Dodge(349ci) has the quad cab(more weight?). The Chevy(367ci)is still basicly in the same class...I don't think either is rated to tow 10,000lbs.(not sure?) That would be my question to the dealer...the facts man! Not it will do the job. I have a 2500 dodge diesel auto and it is rated at just short of 10,000lbs. Sure you can exceded that (and I have) but if I knew I was going to pull a possible 10,000-11,000 lb trailer all the time I would be looking for a dually. More excellent opinions will follow I'm sure! xlyer, if you dont mind me asking what model/year/options/etc do you have that causes that low rating on your dodge? oops! http://dodgeram.info/2003/load-tow/2500.html Looked it up again 11,750#s...my flatbed is rated at 10,000lbs..anyway it is a "03" std output 4x4 quad cab auto 3:73...with a chip. If I always pulled 10,000lbs I'd still get a dually (maybe). well that sounds a little more appropriate........as for 10000lbs just get me a stouter WDH, a ZF manual tranny and more motor for the trailblazer(hey isuzu can you fit that inline 6 diesel in my truck?) and let her rip.......maybe? BTW anyone know anymore about the v6 diesel that was supposed to show up in the 1/2 fords? i heard that got canceled. damn, that really had my interest. |
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Location: Denver Colorado | Pegasus, definetly get the 4.10 axle in either one. You can go to the forum on www.HemiTruckClub.com and as the folks there with the 2500 how well they tow. Both the GM 6.0L and Dodge Hemi are good engines. I would give the power edge to Dodge. The transmissions are the problem. Dodge has a 5-speed auto but it's a double overdrive, which in a gas engine means it's really a 4 speed. When you shift from 3rd to 4th you loose alot of power. The transmission behind the GM 6.0L is a 4 speed. But the transmission in the GM handles the 3rd to 4th gear better. I would say both trucks will last about the same, and pull similarly. In 2006 Dodge drops the 7 year 70,000 warranty, comes out with the Mega-Cab crew cab and the Hemi will be multi displacement like the 300 and Magnum. So you should see better gas mileage when running empty for 06 Dodge Hemi's. Loaded is still a wide open throttle and none of the gas engines will do well towing for mpg. |
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Location: The Land of Ahs | Thanks, Mr. Truck, and everyone else. We'd rather have a Chevy anyway! |
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Location: New Durham NH | One thing you may consider as well is a Superduty with the V10. Plenty of power and mileage is pretty good considering your in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. Average 12-14 MPG even with your foot into it. It's a motor that you don't see talked about much on here. It is also a proven one with very few, if any issues. Mated to a 4.10 or 4.30 rearend and you can tow right next to any diesel. Also |
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Location: The Land of Ahs | Rugby3, thanks for your comment. you are referring to a Ford Superduty, correct? You're right, I hadn't considered a V10, thought the gas mileage would be awful. Do you have this pickup so you KNOW the 12-14 is accurate? I could live with that and the power would be adequate to pull, even in the mountains. We'll check it out. Thanks again.
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Location: New Durham NH | Yes I do, it's a 2001 F-250 with the V-10. It's a 4x4 Crew Cab longbed. The numbers for 01-04 are 310 HP and 425 TQ. If you keep the original size tires and don't speed on down the road you will get 12-14 MPG easily unloaded. In the mountains with that weight expect 8-10 depending on conditions and how you drive. This motor will definitely handle your needs and makes a great family vehicle as the Ford Superduty crew cab is the biggest out there. I am 6'1" and 250 and have plenty of room wether I am in the front or back. |
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Location: sc | Originally written by Rugby3 on 2005-08-15 8:11 PM Yes I do, it's a 2001 F-250 with the V-10. It's a 4x4 Crew Cab longbed. The numbers for 01-04 are 310 HP and 425 TQ. If you keep the original size tires and don't speed on down the road you will get 12-14 MPG easily unloaded. In the mountains with that weight expect 8-10 depending on conditions and how you drive. This motor will definitely handle your needs and makes a great family vehicle as the Ford Superduty crew cab is the biggest out there. I am 6'1" and 250 and have plenty of room wether I am in the front or back. outstanding, another happy v10 customer. ive driven a few v10s, liked what i saw and felt, havent towed with one, although everyone ive talked to said with the 4.30 rear it will run with the diesel..........or close enough. since im looking for a 3rd vehicle (basically tow only) mpg doesnt matter and i dont really care to pay the "diesel premium", i may step up the hunt for a 6 speed SD v10. |
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Dodge2500 5.7L V8 or Chevy 2500HD 6.0L V8
