How to stop a horse that "paws"
equigal
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2005-06-27 9:52 AM (#27195)
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Ok...here is a question for you folks...How do you stop a horse that paws...when-ever he is tied...I have had him tied in the stall + trailer...paws for hours....I have yelled at him and he stops (briefly) and tried the water pistol...from a distance...but not effective.(likes water)It's a rotten habit and a "toughy" to break.Any suggestions?( he pawed for 3 hours on the road in a trailer last week)
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Posted 2005-06-27 9:56 AM (#27198 - in reply to #27195)
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This sounds really mean and I'm sure I will get clobbered from some of those animal rights activists out there, but I would try hobbles. Makes it hard/impossible to move front legs and paw. I've done it on my horses and it worked.
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Posted 2005-06-27 11:23 AM (#27203 - in reply to #27195)
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Hobbles aren't a bad thing at all. I had a horse that pawed the crap out of my trailer and in cross ties. Yelling and whacking doesnt' work either, just turns into a game for them. He drove me nuts. Nothing got him over that, maybe more training and time with him, which I didn't have, so I sold him. Looking back, I would have tried hobbles. I know some have suggested them for using in the trailer but be sure he is used to them BEFORE attempting in a trailer. Many trailriders use them.

Then there is always the shock collar method. Don't say NO WAY for a horse, we use them on dogs too.



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Posted 2005-06-27 11:58 AM (#27206 - in reply to #27195)
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I would sure try hobbles before resorting to a shock collar. But you might also try clicker training as well.

My youngest mule pawed quite a bit when she was 2-4 years old then it gradually dissapated.. My personal belief is that hot (rich) feed and  forced inactivity inactivity compounds this "vice".

I will offer one bit of advice from personal experience: if you use hobbles when tied...tie them SHORT! I had a young mule that reared up with hobbles on and came down the lead rope...

But try working on rewarding them for standing still, by whatever methods your animal is motivated by...(treats, turning loose for a bit, click and treat, etc.)

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equigal
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Posted 2005-06-27 12:12 PM (#27211 - in reply to #27195)
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It sounds as if the hobbles may be the answer....I am tieing him up in his stall right now......when I am cleaning stalls.I had thought about the "shock" collar also....of course it seems extreme, but, pawing can lead to ruined mats , trailer damage and if a horse rears...injury to the horse...So,The hobbles maybe the first method to try...I will let you know if they work!Also, this horse gets little grain and is not hot...he just lacks patience....and is imature....time to grow up big boy! ;-)This is no excuss for a rotten habit though...
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Posted 2005-06-27 12:19 PM (#27213 - in reply to #27211)
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Don't forget to introduce the hobbles in a large safe environment.  I'd consider wrapping the legs under the hobbles first until he gets used to the confinement and stops struggling.
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Terri
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Posted 2005-06-27 12:33 PM (#27216 - in reply to #27211)
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My colt was like this.  He would dig holes where ever you tied him.  Didn't have to trim his front feet much, he wore them down.  I started tieing  him with his head up and wouldn't let him out until he quit.  It took him HOURS to stop the first few times and then he started catching on.  Now he will stand quietly most of the time.  He will still do it if there are horses acting excited around him.  But he is really improving with just a bit of practice. 
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Posted 2005-06-27 12:33 PM (#27217 - in reply to #27195)
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Here are some articles to read about hobbles, their uses, types and
training. I particularly liked the ring rope rope method in the second link, although I would use a larger diameter (soft cotton) myself.

http://www.usipp.com/gatefarm/hobbles_and_their_proper_uses.htm

http://www.gaitedhorses.net/Articles/Hobble/hobble.shtml

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Posted 2005-06-27 2:51 PM (#27233 - in reply to #27195)
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If he's a true butt-head about not getting his way, try the hobbles in an arena/large pen first.  That way when he throws his hissy fit he can fall on the ground and not into something.

Once he learns not to fight the hobble in the arena you can lead then ride another horse around the ring.  He'll get excited and throw another hissy but he'll learn to stand and hopefully you can break him of some of his herding behaviors.

Chances are when he's standing near lots of other horses he's fine.  Alone he's thinking they've left me for dead!

Hate to say if he's TB it might take longer to break the bad habit.

Repeat these steps until he stands tied like a perfect gentleman inside an arena where other horses are being worked.

Good luck and be consistant!

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Posted 2005-06-27 6:01 PM (#27247 - in reply to #27233)
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"Hate to say if he's TB it might take longer to break the bad habit."

Ain't that the truth!! LOL

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equigal
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2005-06-28 7:27 AM (#27262 - in reply to #27195)
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Hate to admit to it, but he is 1/2 TB.....But, I have had a lot of full QHs who have had personalities that cause me to question the mentality of the breed....<:o)Thanks for all the good advice....the hobbles might be just the thing to teach this "big boy" a little patience!
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Posted 2005-06-29 6:04 AM (#27341 - in reply to #27195)
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I had one that would kick the trailer and if you just lightly tap the brakes...they have to put all four feet down.  Be VERY careful to just barely tap the brakes...barely.  He started figuring out that the ride was much more comfortable if he would just stand with his feet planted.

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equigal
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Posted 2005-06-29 7:33 AM (#27344 - in reply to #27195)
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Tried the " putting on the breaks " methods to make him put all 4 feet on the ground...didn't work...When he was delivered to me last fall, he was pawing as they pulled into the driveway, and it had been a 5 hr drive!So, I am shopping for hobbles...I think that they may be the answer.. (haven't located a "bark collar" yet..teeheeee)But, my gosh, I think that it has become a game with him....Anyway, will find a nice shadey tree and tie him up there for a few hours...We are in hunter/jumper/warmblood country so sometimes hard to find the true cowboymethod/sensible horseman stuff like hobbles.... ;-)Thanks very much for all the suggestions...I will try them ALL!!!
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Posted 2005-06-29 7:44 AM (#27346 - in reply to #27344)
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Try catalogs like, Pards ot Cowboy Tack.
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equigal
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2005-07-06 9:26 AM (#27666 - in reply to #27195)
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OK folks,Here's where I am at....I was able to order some hobbles and they arrived the other day. Out to the barn I head and boy, I am a little nervous about this. I really didn't want my gelding injured... Just entered him in a futurity!!So, lead him out to my sand pen. I nervously put one hobble on and then waited to see what would happen. I had read the "how to get a horse used to hobbles " articles and decided that he was quite and sensible enough to try this.Well, he took one step forward, stepped on the dragging hobble and stopped. Looked at me and stood like a rock!.I lifted his foot off an proceeded to attached the hobble stap to the remaining leg...Well, nothing happened,. He just stood there and looked at me. I walked away from him, arround him, and behind him...he just stood there! ( For about 10 mins!) I unhobbled him and he got his treats (carrots).So, I will hobble him again, and perhaps lead another horse around him to see how he reacts...I really wondered what would happen..he is normally a very sensible quite guy..I think that the pawing is his way of reacting to a stressfull situation (like being in a trailer)So, I think that I am going to load him up and take a ride back there with him..to see if I can get him to relax!Thanks again for all the advice. I will continue to work with the hobbles and to take him on some short hauls, to see if I can "destress" him enough to not mess up the trailer mats!javascript:smilie('12','');12
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Posted 2005-07-06 12:39 PM (#27685 - in reply to #27195)
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I am not too keen about riding with a horse in the trailer. he has to learn to behave himself by himself. By making the wrong thing uncomfortable ( like tapping breaks) he'll learn when he isn't pawing, he'll be ok.

Treats are another issue- again, he has to learn to be good ,not for a treat, but because life is better. After any training session, when the horse does what is being asked, stopping the session ,or relief from pressure, is the reward. So if you're working on the pawing thing, when he stops pawing, letting him is the reward. Let him paw all he wants but to go back to the stall or paddock, you must stop.( for example)

 

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equigal
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Posted 2005-07-06 2:15 PM (#27690 - in reply to #27195)
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Well, I have tried the "tapping the breaks method " with no effect. Also, the road that I have to haul on to get to the show grounds has about 20 miles of extremely winding road so a horse has to work hard to keep his balance...Even the twists in the road didn't stop him!So, next will try some short straight hauls and see what happens...I will also keep working with the hobbles and rewards....( not in the trailer though)
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Posted 2005-07-06 2:17 PM (#27691 - in reply to #27195)
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equigal, try just having him wear one end of the hobbles, like a bracelet in the trailer.  But be careful.  He hasn't had his fight with the hobbles yet...he might never but you never know.
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equigal
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Posted 2005-07-06 3:02 PM (#27695 - in reply to #27195)
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Well, I agree with the "tapping the breaks" method in some cases..But it didn't work for this guy...Also, the road that I was hauling on was very winding, and a horse has to constantly work to keep his balance...Even the twists in the road didn't stop him from pawing...LOL** he is an acrobat!So, I will probably do some short hauls(20 mins +)...and see what that accomplishes... I am usually on the road for 2-3 hrs to get to the show grounds, so maybe some short hauls will get him more accustomed to the whole" trailering issue"...and I will continue to work with the hobbles .
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Posted 2005-07-09 2:41 PM (#27844 - in reply to #27195)
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If I have a problem horse that likes to paw I will put a used shoe on thier
ankle, you have to bend them in so they won't fall off, it works for me. If they paw they will feel the shoe hitting them and they will quit.Just my 2 cents worth.
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Posted 2005-07-09 11:01 PM (#27856 - in reply to #27195)
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I second Wild Bill.  Old shoe on the ankle.

 

Or just put one hobble on while tied at the rail.  Put it on the foot he paws most with. When he paws the hobble will flop around and annoy him.  I just went through that with my 2 year old this spring.

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Terri
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Posted 2005-07-10 10:37 AM (#27865 - in reply to #27844)
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You don't have to bend the shoe.  A piece of string through the nail hole works and makes it easier to take off.
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Posted 2005-07-11 8:50 AM (#27884 - in reply to #27195)
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equigal
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Posted 2005-07-11 9:03 AM (#27885 - in reply to #27195)
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Well, those are more good ideas that I may have to try..This horse has really gotten me beat. (almost)Loaded him into the trailer several times in last couple of days...he will stand quitely and eat until the trailer starts to move..Then he starts!I have used the hobbles several times now. He will stand quitely tied to a fence...and does well with/without hay.This seems to be a "moving" trailer issue...I had a friend drive my rig in slow circle aound my yard yesterday..when he started to paw, he was made a little uncomfortable...used a dressage whip on the knees.I have tried the quick breaking..doesn't work...bumpy ride, doesn't work. I don't want to use hobbles in the trailer..I feel that is not safe and I can't stay in the back with him cause it's not safe either...So, I think that it is time to get this rotten habit done. I will try the chain (shoe on the ankle perhaps..) It would be safer then hobbles....next, perhaps sell the horse???
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Posted 2005-07-11 11:51 AM (#27895 - in reply to #27885)
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How often to you travel with him?  Maybe cars zipping by scare him and he paws because he's nervous?
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Posted 2005-07-11 12:13 PM (#27896 - in reply to #27195)
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I don't travel with him much right now...but if he settles, will be on the road more...I don't know if he is frightened...when we were out with him yesterday, only one car went by!Before I left, quietly eating out of hay net, before I left the driveway, he'd started pawing....
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Posted 2005-07-11 12:20 PM (#27898 - in reply to #27896)
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Maybe he just needs more trailer time.   I have one that paws everytime we come to a stop, but I think he is just impatient.  Or hot and wants a breeze.  Maybe your horse doesn't like the wind.  There are just to many possibilities, but I would give him more trailer time even with the pawing.  If he thinks the pawing is getting him out of riding in the trailer, he will keep it up.
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equigal
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Posted 2005-09-13 2:13 PM (#30296 - in reply to #27195)
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Well,Here's what's happened...I rode in the back of the trailer while a friend drove in circles around my yard....When he pawed, I would smack him, when he stopped, I would pat him and try to reward him.He stopped pawing....while I was there , but the minute we were on the road and I was back in the truck, he would paw again.So, I decided to use a dog training collar.I really did not want to resort to this, but I didn't want my trailer damaged ..it already had some scapes from hi abuse...I tied the collar on his neck and had it on a med low setting.I started out with him tied in his stall...he never pawed!Then tried it with him tied to a post in the paddock..he stood like rock.SO, into the trailer he went...within 2 mins he was pawing so I pushed the button on the remote.... there was a little scrambling that went on...then silence. I peeked into the trailer and he was standing rock still...ahhhhhh good pony..here's a carrot!So, started down the road....he pawed once...I hit the button again...Heard a little scrambling then nothing.I have had him in the trailer 2X's since then...no pawing....YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!This seemed a little extreme, but it seems to have worked...This is a good horse who wasn't mean or stupid, just immature and inpatient....This may not have worked on a more hyper or high-stung animal, but it seems to have worked on him... so I will keep my fingers crossed ( and the "remote" in my pocket!)
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Posted 2005-09-13 7:37 PM (#30341 - in reply to #27195)
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Interesting results! Sounds great! When my mare first started kicking in the trailer a friend recommended using a "bark" collar, which assumes the kicking would set the collar off the same way a bark would. I still haven't tried it and still don't trailer the mare. Maybe I should rethink that one....hmmmmm.
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Posted 2005-09-14 8:38 AM (#30355 - in reply to #27195)
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I'm glad to know people actually use them and that they work.  I have seen the ones made for horses but never listened to a report of them working.  Now can I fit my students with them, or will their parents complain?

I've also wondered about those dog collars that shock when the animal leaves within a set radius of the "central device."  Would that work for children in public?  Mom just places the "central device" in her purse and when the kids start to roam and they get too far, WHAMMO!  I would think it would be far superior to the "kiddy leash" type of thing you see out today.

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Posted 2005-09-15 10:23 AM (#30413 - in reply to #27195)
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I had an offer of a bark collar to use on the "pawing" pony, but felt that it wouldn't be useful since his pawing on a rubber trailer mat may not be sufficiant to activate the signal.The training collar seems to have worked, but you really have to be prepared to push the botton asap...since punishment must be during the episode of bad manners...But, maybe the bark collar may work for kicking.(loud in a trailer)..as long as it produces a "quick" zap!I am thankful that this horse only pawed (it can do enough damage)...kicking would do far more...Good luck....ps....I also use the invisible fence for my dog..it works well(as long as the battery doesn't die!)Or dog jumps in pool and kills batteryOr if the dog is a Jack Russell Terror who really wants out after that darn squirrel!!!!!LOL***
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I just bought a 9 yr paint mare and loaded her for the first time for a trip to vet . They told me she was bad in trailer , but didn't say why . She wasn't bad to load , but when we tried to tie her she went crazy and jurked the lead out of my hands and jumped out of the trailer . We loaded her again and she tried it again , we got her tied first and she started pawing and pushed me into corner . She was hopping and pawing and starting kicking at the walls . It was a stock trailer , thankfully and I got out side door . When we unloaded her she did the same thing and tried to jump out fast .Stood like a champ in the stocks , then loaded right up again with out anyone going in with her . I held her while the door was shut , and she started the pawing , kicking again . Don't know if this was the right thing to do , but we untied her and put water and hay in trailer and left her in it over night . The moment we left her alone she stopped pawing and started eating her hay and we didn't hear a sound all night .Let her out the next morning and walked her around and then loaded her up and unloaded her 3 or 4 times and haven't had any trouble with her since .
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Posted 2006-05-11 10:11 PM (#41625 - in reply to #27898)
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A word of caution: be careful with the use of a haynet with a pawing horse. My horse has pawed his leg over the triangle-shaped snap-in corner feeder in my trailer on 2 occasions.
Now I do not use the feeder, but tie a hay bag up real high. I refuse to use a net after seeing a wreck with one (someone else's horse).
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Posted 2006-05-12 1:47 AM (#41626 - in reply to #27195)
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Have you tried a kick chain? This will work on either one that paws or kicks. Take a dog collar and fasten it above the knee or hock. Snap a chain (like is used on the end of a lead) on it. When the horse paws or kicks, it punishes itself.
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Posted 2006-05-12 7:34 AM (#41631 - in reply to #27195)
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I don't have a cure, but sure know what you're going through. Daughter has a 17 year old mare that we've had 15 years. This horse has never stopped  pawing and kicking in the trailer. Two weeks ago she went nuts in our new American Spirit trailer. Now I get to spend some time and money to repair the damage. If it was up to me the mare would never look at another trailer.

With all these good ideas, maybe she can learn.

 

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Posted 2006-05-12 6:06 PM (#41645 - in reply to #27195)
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I had a mare that loaded like a dream but when in the trailer pawed at our door and what i did was i feed her very VERY high quality hay in her trailer bag and about 4 ounces of grain and she was awesome! it worked for me it should work for you!
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Posted 2006-05-16 10:13 AM (#41781 - in reply to #27195)
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some horses freak at being tied in a trailer because they've been tied too short and the ride was hell.  Make sure they can move their head comfortably without getting turned around.  Also a shock collar activated by sound seems like a very bad idea in a trailer.  If someone should honk their horn or a big truck pass by ect... it would only teach the horse to associate bad things with the trailer or with sound.  The kind you hand operate would be the better choice.  I had pretty good luck with working a horse every time he pawed.  It exhausted me though.  A cowboy pal of mine tried hobbles on him and tried tying up one foot.  They both worked but were a pain and of course wouldn't work in a trailer.  I devoted an entire day to working him on ground manners every time he pawed.  It seemed like he couldn't stop himself-- like cribbing-- but eventually the light bulb went on and he stopped.  If you go this route, get some help and take turns! 

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Posted 2006-08-16 8:56 AM (#46717 - in reply to #41781)
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This one used to paw.

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Posted 2006-08-16 7:44 PM (#46778 - in reply to #46717)
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I beleive that what you call a Quarter horse isn't it? Or maybe it's a half-linger.

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Posted 2006-08-17 11:16 AM (#46830 - in reply to #27195)
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Made for short trailers.

 

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Posted 2006-08-18 12:15 AM (#46891 - in reply to #46830)
Subject: RE: How to stop a horse that "paws"



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Okay, so this is related in a round-about sort of way - My horse was tied to the trailer after a ride. I unsaddled him and was letting him rest a bit before loading up to go home. He began to paw a little and I scolded him and kept brushing, then put everything away and loaded up. I came out of my trailer and a really weird guy was right there-he came out of nowhere. I said "Whoa". Not what you want to encounter when there are not alot of other folks around. He came up to me, held his finger up and asked in a strange quiet way "why do they paw?" Trying not to show how freaked out I was, I told him the horse was either nervous, impatient or bored.   He said "Exactly. Sometimes when I am nagging in a negative way, I too will paw" and he made a pawing gesture with his hand... Oooookay- that's my cue to get the heck outta there. I said "oh, that's nice. See you later." Now whenever I see or read about horses pawing, I will think of this weirdo. Now that I think about it, is there any other way to nag other than a negative way?

Edited by cowgirl98034 2006-08-18 12:17 AM
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windwalker2
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2006-08-18 4:16 AM (#46894 - in reply to #46891)
Subject: RE: How to stop a horse that "paws"



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Bizarro world............kinda makes you wish your horse was an attack horse......or trained to "kick" on command...
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siseley
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2006-08-21 4:53 PM (#47093 - in reply to #27195)
Subject: RE: How to stop a horse that "paws"



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  How bizarre!! Sure wish I could get Siseley to kick on command, I would kick the living daylites out of a couple of Dirt bikers in my neighborhood!!  Also those folks that leave their dogs loose at nite and they tip over trashcans. Or the inconsiderate people who let their kids just run screaming up to any horse and expect the horse not to react!

Kick um again girl!!

Steve

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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2006-08-22 6:16 AM (#47109 - in reply to #27195)
Subject: RE: How to stop a horse that "paws"


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I was at this old horse traders place one Saturday.He also pasture boards(has a 100 acres) Middle age guy drives up in all things a Chevite.Dressed in street clothes.Gets a saddle and bridel out after minor small talk pickes them up and goes to the gate,goes in the pasture carring saddle/bridle and starts waking.While later he comes back riding a pale yellow bad toed in gelding.Gets off and leads him over to the Old horse trader and I. He says he's MAD.Someones been riding HIS horse.Old man says Naw and what makes you think that.Well horses mane is in KNOTS with a big one near the wither.Someone did that on purpose for a hand hold! Old horse trader told me the guy had owned that pale gelding about five years and only appeared about every 6 months.Said he asked him once why he toted his saddle all over that hundered acres instead of catching the horse FIRST.Said he never got a answer.I was like WOW.How strange.He never did believe us that the KNOTS were from a lack of grooming and a person did not put them there for a hand hold.

Edited by hounddog 2006-08-22 10:40 AM
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Rugby3
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2006-10-01 7:24 PM (#49484 - in reply to #46717)
Subject: RE: How to stop a horse that "paws"


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Originally written by SLICKRNSNOT on 2006-08-16 9:56 AM

This one used to paw.

I'm using my hubby's username but had to post to this....I cannot quit laughing!"quarter horse""half-linger""made for short trailers"Oh jeez I am choking from laughter!OH..everyone about the pawing....Thanks SO MUCH!I've got a mare that has inherited the pawing. Only when it's time to eat.
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