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Location: Laguna Hills, CA | Hey Everyone,Currently have a 2003 F350 with a 2005 Cimerron gooseneck.The trailer has 2 7000 lb axles.The weights are with my 2 horses, 35 gals water, hay, and a quad in the trailer and 90 gals water in the bed.I am looking at a new F250 or F350 and wanted room for growth so I weighed my trailer.Here are the results:Steer Axle 4460Drive Axle 5440Trailer Axle 8220Total Axle 18320Truck 8360Trailer 9960Total 18320So F250 or F350?Thanks,terry |
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Location: Laguna Hills, CA | Here it is cleaned up:Hey Everyone,Currently have a 2003 F350 with a 2005 Cimerron gooseneck.The trailer has 2 7000 lb axles. and I put some insulation and a mattress some carpeting tack dog stakes chains, Honda 2000 generator, microwave etc in the tackroom and carry dogs/dogcrates and a boot box etc. The weights are with my 2 horses, 35 gals water, hay, and a Honda 250 quad in the trailer and 90 gals water in the bed of the truck.I was pretty surprised that the trailer was about 10,000 lbs with the quad and two horses in it.I am looking at a new F250 or F350 and wanted room for growth so I weighed my trailer.Here are the results:Steer Axle 4460Drive Axle 5440Trailer Axle 8220Total Axle 18320Truck 8360Trailer 9960Total 18320So 2016 F250 or F350?Thanks,Terry |
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Location: Mena, AR | You need to check the rating on the truck you are planning to buy. I have a 2013 Ram single axle 3500 and that weight is right at my max. You may need to consider a dually. |
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Location: Vermont | https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/2... CHECK PAGE 19
Edited by PaulChristenson 2016-06-04 4:23 PM
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Location: Vermont | Here is the location for the current towing numbers by vehicle... https://www.ford.com/towingguides/ |
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Location: Calgary, Canada | Terry,
Here are links to a few previous discussions on truck sizing that may help you to size a truck for your trailer:
http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=206...
http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=203...
Also have a look at the “sticky” on this subject at: http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=182...
Regards, ThreeCW
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Location: missouri | Why would anyone buy a 3/4 ton truck anyway??? Single wheels v Dual wheels= STABILITY. |
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Location: Washington | Why would anyone buy a 3/4 ton truck anyway??? Single wheels v Dual wheels= STABILITYAre you serious?? How bout McDonalds drive-thru etc. etc. Different needs for different seeds. Be helpful if you have to respond. |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by calamityj on 2016-06-07 9:37 AM
Why would anyone buy a 3/4 ton truck anyway??? Single wheels v Dual wheels= STABILITY. Fuel consumption when NOT towing and relatively small trailers(4 horse non-LQ) when towing...means they can get by with a 3/4...:) |
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Location: South Central OK | Really? 3/4 ton, no CDL...1 ton, CDL. Knowing what I know now I'm not sure I would have picked my dually, I'm wrapped in a government crap storm all because I wanted to be more safe. See the pre trip CDL post. |
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Location: Missouri | One ton does not = CDL. |
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Location: South Central OK | If you tow more than a 10,001 lb trailer and a combined weight of 26,000 you do need a CDL (or a membership with the bar.) Your farm tags will only get you so far and then you'll find yourself up the same creek I am...had I picked a 3/4 ton I'd be sitting pretty at 24,000 lbs instead of unhapply inside of CDL territory at 28,000 lbs. https://www.dps.state.ok.us/dls/pub/NCDL.pdf |
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Location: Missouri | There's the problem, farm tags. By using farm tags you are attesting to making money with your truck. Otherwise, no CDL needed. I have researched the hell out this, I drive a C4500 and don't need a CDL. I'm registered with 30,000 lbs plates, NOT farm plates for this very reason.
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Location: Tenn/Ala. | Originally written by hornet on 2016-06-08 4:27 AM
There's the problem, farm tags. By using farm tags you are attesting to making money with your truck. Otherwise, no CDL needed. I have researched the hell out this, I drive a C4500 and don't need a CDL. I'm registered with 30,000 lbs plates, NOT farm plates for this very reason.
But we're getting off subject so I'll back out.
Please be careful generalizing, as each state is different. In Tenn., Huntseat is correct. And to go further, in TN a regular license plate caps you at 9,000# total weight. So to go higher as any towing rig will, you go with a Commercial or a Farm plate of the proper weight rating. Those are the only 2 options.
From my experience, should your rig be checked (assuming truck & trailer GVWR add to over 26,000) in Tenn, Ga, SC, and some others you'll be grounded until a CDL driver can come move your rig. Not saying it is or isn't right. But have seen it happen in all 3 of those states over the past 15 years.
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Location: Missouri | I pulled through a TN weight station, they waved me on, said I didn't need to stop because I wasn't commercial. |
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Location: Tenn/Ala. | Originally written by hornet on 2016-06-09 10:10 AM
I pulled through a TN weight station, they waved me on, said I didn't need to stop because I wasn't commercial.
I've had that happen too. Then I've also seen an officer ground a 1 ton truck and 24' stock trailer (that had only 2 horses in it). And to make it even trickier, you may get three different answers on three different days. |
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Location: Harrisburg, PA | If the question is between an F-250 SRW and F-350 SRW, the answer is F-350.
If the question is between dually and SRW, it depends.
If the question is legality and licensing, it's another thread. I can say for sure it varies depending on where you go, whether anything on you can be considered even remotely commercial in nature, which cop you're talking to, and the time of day. Enforcement vaguely resembles the law. |
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truck and trailer weights...new F250 or F350
