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Location: San Antonio, TX | I currently have a 32 foot 2000 CM legend with 10 foot shortwall 3 horse slant, the lable says: Gvwr /pnbv 5210Gawr /pnbe front 7000 and Rear 10000. I am not having a problem towing this with my 2012 Ram Diesel Cummins 2500, but am looking to upgrade to a 39 foot trailer with a GVWR of 7,000 and a GAWR of 17,500. Can anybody provide insight as to whether or not this will work with my truck? I have an exhaust brake and an electric brake stock on my truck and am considering having airbags installed. |
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Location: Mena, AR | What is the rating.for your truck? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I'm not sure. I think it depends on the axle. I think it is between 9550 and 14550. I have no idea how to figure out which axle I have. |
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Location: Valentine, NE | I would say no. Ratings might allow (doubtful), but I wouldn't want to pull it. Only way to know what your weight is to weigh the fully loaded trailer and truck. I suspect your tongue weight would put way to much weight on your rear axle of your Dodge to be comfortable.
I have a 2012 single rear wheel Dodge 3500, hooked it to our 30' (floor length) Hart LQ 4 horse and it about lifted the front tires off the ground. I did the weight calculations and the Dodge's rear axle weight was about 400 lbs under the max. Tow weight was right at the max.
I pull the Hart with a highly modified 4500 Chevy and it is plenty for it. Some people do it just fine, but we put an decent amount miles on a year and it is not worth it.
Just fyi, that I doubt your CM is 32' on the floor. I suspect that includes the nose? Most 10' SW 3 horse would be around 22-24' floor length. When one references the length of a trailer, typically, it is just the floor length not including the nose.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Thanks, I actually just weighed my cm with truck and we came in at 17,800. So the trailers allegedly weigh the same. I'm hoping the dealer will allow me to weigh in before making a decision.
And you are right, it is 32 including neck and the other is 38 including neck. The new one is the bison stratus 8316. Thank you so much for the response! |
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Location: South Central OK | I wouldn't buy it if they won't let you weight it AND let you tow it around to see if your truck can handle it. I say that because you may find a difference between the two brands/conversions and how the weight sits on the trailer frame. |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by sbwinde on 2015-12-08 2:57 PM
I currently have a 32 foot 2000 CM legend with 10 foot shortwall 3 horse slant, the lable says: Gvwr /pnbv 5210Gawr /pnbe front 7000 and Rear 10000. I am not having a problem towing this with my 2012 Ram Diesel Cummins 2500, but am looking to upgrade to a 39 foot trailer with a GVWR of 7,000 and a GAWR of 17,500. Can anybody provide insight as to whether or not this will work with my truck? I have an exhaust brake and an electric brake stock on my truck and am considering having airbags installed. Airbags will do NOTHING to increase the GAWR of your truck's axle...if you are over-capacity...you are over-capacity...you to get actual axle weghts of the new trailer with truck on a scale |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Yep, I knew that about the airbags, just that they will help with the ride and the squatting. I plan to get it weighed this weekend. Thanks for all of your input! |
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Location: Pataskala, Ohio | I pull a Lakota 4 horse 10'LQ with a 2500HD my biggest limitation is tire capacity. If I have much water in my fresh water tank (100 gallon) I go over the 7200lbs max for my tires. I load horses from the rear forward.Pulling and stopping I am sure your truck can do it but a trailer of that size will exceed tire capacity.You can convert yours to a dully if you really want that trailer, I am thinking of doing that to my truck. I have the same axle as a dully so I am told but I am also told it will take a good chunk of $$$$ to do. |
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Location: Mena, AR | The Dodge web site has a place to enter your VIN and it will give you all the info you need on capacity. Pretty cool. |
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Location: Penrose, Colorado | you need more truck, just because you can pull it does not mean you can stop it.We have a trailer a little larger than you mention and yes at times I pull it with a dually one ton but generally it is on a 5500 dodge. |
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| Originally written by Jeepplr on 2015-12-09 3:14 PM
I pull a Lakota 4 horse 10'LQ with a 2500HD my biggest limitation is tire capacity. If I have much water in my fresh water tank (100 gallon) I go over the 7200lbs max for my tires. I load horses from the rear forward.Pulling and stopping I am sure your truck can do it but a trailer of that size will exceed tire capacity.You can convert yours to a dully if you really want that trailer, I am thinking of doing that to my truck. I have the same axle as a dully so I am told but I am also told it will take a good chunk of $$$$ to do.
That's what I was going to mention is tire capacity. When we weighed my trailer, the pin weight on the rear axle was over the capacity of the any possible tire for a SRW, even tho the tow rating of the truck indicated it was capable of handling the total weight of the trailer. I knew when I bought the trailer I would likely need to upgrade trucks, so I went ahead and bought a dually. RVs are balanced to have less pin weight, so you can pull more trailer with less truck than with a horse trailer. Horse trailers pull a lot more stable with the higher pin weights tho, which is important when hauling live cargo.
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Towing Capacity Question
