Old truck versus newer truck for hauling horsetrailer
Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2014-03-29 9:52 AM (#158308)
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My Dad thinks newer trucks are better than old trucks. He thought that my buying a 1993 Chev one ton dually was just a money pit. He thinks it will be unreliable on the road due to being over 20 years old. My line of thinking is that if an older truck is mechanically sound and well maintained then it should be fine to haul on the highway. I didn't want a huge vehicle payment and besides , new trucks can cost $80,000! I bought my 1993 chev from a mechanic who has maintained it very well. I have budgeted for ongoing maintenance to keep it in good running order. Personally, I like older trucks and always have. They aren't made if fiberglass and they have real bumpers! So I was just wondering what others hunk of well maintained older trucks in terms of their reliability and safety for hauling a horse trailer?
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jim bob
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2014-03-29 10:03 AM (#158309 - in reply to #158308)
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I have two older trucks; both being 2001 models; or 13 year old trucks. They are both Ford diesels with auto transmissions. One is a 250 and the other a 350 dually. The dually has been the most trouble free truck I have ever driven. The truck has 353K miles on it; and we have never touched the engine or the auto trans! We have had to replace some front end parts, as both trucks are 4WD. I would search long and hard to find another Ford with a 7.3 diesel with fairly low miles; before I would buy a new truck. MY two cents worth!
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yeehaw
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2014-03-29 10:41 AM (#158310 - in reply to #158308)
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New truck prices are just totally out of line in my book, you can do a lot of fixing just for the sales tax they make you pay. New truck will probably be somewhat more dependable but they still can break down and leave you stranded. I'll just keep my 03 dodge diesel for now and do a good job of keeping it up for now.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-03-29 10:50 AM (#158311 - in reply to #158308)
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Well there are two sides to this argument...one issue is that a 20 year old truck is a 20 year old truck...so there may be worn parts that may fail due to age...and you have NO WARRANTY...so anything that does break will be out of pocket...and some parts for old trucks may take time to replace as they are no longer manufactured and are not readily available...the other is there is no emissions parts to screw up the old engine

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roxieannie
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-03-29 12:15 PM (#158312 - in reply to #158308)
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Look into getting US Rider. Added insurance for that stranded on the road issue if it were to come up.
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china doll
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-03-29 1:11 PM (#158313 - in reply to #158308)
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Older trucks have so many things that are not new that could be dry rotted like belts and hoses, Brake lines corroded, rust for springs and shock mounts. A new 3500 HD 1ton 4x4 crew cab and with rebates are in the upper 40's not 80KMostly it would depend on your budget.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-03-29 2:41 PM (#158316 - in reply to #158308)
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New trucks get old too. Buying a new truck doesn't guarantee trouble free driving. $80 K may be a bit extra, but every 4X4 half ton truck at the last show I attended a few months ago, were just under $50 K and none were diesels.

There are common wear items on every vehicle, that must be attended to and replaced as scheduled maintenance. These include hoses, belts, brakes, suspension parts etc. How a vehicle is driven and maintained will have a great bearing on its reliability. My last truck lasted over 25 years, and I finally had to let it go when the frame gave up to the salt bugs. Our current truck is 15 years old and I hope to enjoy it another 15 years. I have two cars that are over 50 years old, two that are forty, and will keep them until I'm gone.

With no monthly payments once they are paid off, I generally budget about a single monthly payment to the yearly maintenance costs of each vehicle. With a constant upkeep on maintenance, with one exception, our vehicles have had no malfunctions. You have to be proactive on maintenance, checking and replacing the things you know will fail due to age, BEFORE they wear out and leave you stranded. If you have a brake flexible hose cracking, change them all and check the hard lines as well. You check these every time you change the brake pads. When you add or change the oil, it's a good time to check every rubber hose under the hood. Serpentine belts should be checked and changed before they break, not after a warning light indicates a system failure.

New trucks are extremely electronically controlled, as are most new vehicles. Much of this equipment involves extra emissions and luxury items not found in trucks a decade or so old. While they generally improve the ownership with better mileage and features, the newer items are also more expensive to trouble shoot and repair, than the older vehicles they replace. Their systems are very complex, involving many expensive components, that are not repairable, but must be changed as a unit.

When you purchase any used vehicle, you must expect to complete some upgrades to make it reliable. At first you will spend some money on replacing any wear items, brakes, shocks, hoses, tires, fluids, every thing that needs to be addressed, that the previous owner neglected, because he was getting rid of his vehicle. These items should be budgeted into the total cost of the purchase. The worst thing a new owner can do, is drive the vehicle and wait until something goes wrong to fix it. This will increase the repair costs, and may leave you stranded.

If you purchase a vehicle that will provide you with, or exceed your necessary wish list, there is no reason why you will out grow it in the future. If you get the bare minimum, you will probably end up trading for bigger and better in the near future. The least expensive vehicle you will own, is one that you can pay off and enjoy for a time, two or three times the length of your payment schedule. It is one that will provide you with the performance and capabilities you need now and into the future. Buy well now and enjoy it later.

Our everyday drivers are now 12 and 13 years old and have been paid off for many years. I hope to use them both another decade. If we can keep their bodies intact, this is not an idle challenge. You can do the same if you want.

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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-03-29 9:42 PM (#158324 - in reply to #158308)
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We had 2 1993 GM diesel pickups, both 1ton duallies. The one that started life as a farm truck died long ago despite excellent maintenance. The other spent 5 years and about 130,000 miles as a horse trailer towing truck before being put on the farm and it died about 3 years ago. It got a new engine under warranty at 80,000 and 4 or 5 trannies in its lifetime. You can buy new for under $50,000, even the nice trim packages. I bought a decked out 2010 rebuilt last summer that had low miles for $27,000. We had a pro inspect it before buying and the only issue we found was the guy had put a 2008 radiator with 200,000 miles on it, so that will need replacing before much longer.
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Horselovergirl
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2014-03-30 1:01 PM (#158336 - in reply to #158308)
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Excellent advice from everyone. Thank you! Gard, your advice to put away the equivalent of a payment each month is great advice and that is exactly what I am going to do. I am also going to take it in every three months and have it checked over to see if anything pops up. As you pointed out the prevention aspect is so true!I have CAA for both vecicle and RV and I won't ever haul more than two hours away so I think I will be fine. If I end up finding that it is a complete money drain then I will get something newer. I just really like the look and feel of being in tank in the old trucks.Happy trails,Jodie
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-03-30 10:49 PM (#158339 - in reply to #158308)
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The whole reason to upgrade worn components on a used older vehicle, is to provide a safe and reliable transportation. When the worn belts, hoses, suspension components and the like are upgraded, you can then expect them to last many years, just as when they are installed in a new truck. It is not necessary to check on them with such a short time schedule.

We have annual vehicle safety inspections, and during that event, the suspension, brakes, exhaust, lighting and emissions are all checked. If anything is found amiss, it has to be repaired before the vehicle can be used again. If these systems were all renewed as necessary with new parts, there really is no reason for them to be constantly reinspected within a shorter time frame. Many components will last for years depending upon your driving habits.

I would suggest finding a competent independent mechanic to inspect any older truck you may decide to purchase. The body and drive train are the most necessary parts to purchase well, for anticipated long term longevity. The accessories can be replaced when needed, but you need a good base upon which to use. Most dealerships make their profits with unnecessary repairs in their service departments, and prey upon unknowledgeable owners. A local mechanic with a good reputation is invaluable, and can make your ownership less expensive and more pleasurable.

 

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AZgrulla
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-03-31 6:41 AM (#158341 - in reply to #158308)
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We have a '99 Chevy C3500 dually. She has 155k on her now, bought her with 145k. Most of the big parts are factory. We replaced: Shocks, belts, a turbo sensor, and installed new radiator. We added a pmd and brake controller. It's the 6.5 engine...with 4.64 rear axle. We paid 4k for her. She may be ugly, but she hauls our two trailers: 12k loaded LQ and 7k loaded 3h gn.

Good luck with your truck. Keep up on the maintenance and it will be fine.

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hogtownboss
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Posted 2014-03-31 11:16 AM (#158349 - in reply to #158308)
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Originally written by Horselovergirl on 2014-03-29 9:52 AM

My Dad thinks newer trucks are better than old trucks. He thought that my buying a 1993 Chev one ton dually was just a money pit. He thinks it will be unreliable on the road due to being over 20 years old. My line of thinking is that if an older truck is mechanically sound and well maintained then it should be fine to haul on the highway. I didn't want a huge vehicle payment and besides , new trucks can cost $80,000! I bought my 1993 chev from a mechanic who has maintained it very well. I have budgeted for ongoing maintenance to keep it in good running order. Personally, I like older trucks and always have. They aren't made if fiberglass and they have real bumpers! So I was just wondering what others hunk of well maintained older trucks in terms of their reliability and safety for hauling a horse trailer?
Here is my 2 cents worth....I am in the used truck business and have been and in the same location since 1983. First off even a new truck could have tons of trouble! ie: when Ford came out with the 6.0 trucks, until aftermarket folks figured out how to fix the right way you would see shops full of these trucks with low mileage and broke down. The Dodge I drive now is a 2007.5 first of the 6.7 trucks and it was in the shop 6 times until 30-k miles for off the wall stuff but now has 112-k miles and trouble free (knock on wood)....All of the big 3 had some sort of issues from time to time but any could be fixed and end up being good solid trucks!If you are on a budget and know what to look for and what to check out the used truck is the best way to go... Hoses, belts, break pads is all pretty much simple stuff and wearable parts and you would have to end up replacing on a new truck later.
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Marla
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2014-03-31 4:01 PM (#158355 - in reply to #158308)
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I guess it depends on how big the trailer is and how many horsepower you heed to need to pull it. I have a 97 ford 7.3 powerstroke. It pulls my 12000lb trailer just fine. It would not pull an 18000lb trailer. The new trucks have twice the horsepower and torque of the older models. I love my truck and it has been the most dependable truck I have ever owned. Would not be worried about taking it any where.
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china doll
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-03-31 6:25 PM (#158360 - in reply to #158308)
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A new 2014 K3500 4x4 Diesel crew cab that lists for 55,000 can be bought for 46000.00 with rebates and negotiating.
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