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Location: Acton, CA 93510 | lent out the trailer and a horse that was in the trailer damaged it. Who is responsible to pay for the damages =- we do have trailer insurance with a deductible. |
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Location: Alberta Canada | If the person who borrowed the trailer had any conscience at all... there would be no question ... he would just fix it or pay to have it fixed. short of that... go thru insurance |
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Location: Vermont | This is WHY you do NOT lend trailers to people...:( |
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Location: western PA | In a perfect world, lent items would be returned in the same as, or better condition than when they were loaned. Unfortunately today's environment often embraces the phrase "it's not MY fault". You should expect that any item returned damaged would be attended to by the last user. That is what is proper, but often taken to the courts to settle. Lending items can test the mettle of a friendship. You will quickly find out those which are and who is not.
Edited by gard 2013-06-11 11:40 PM
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Lessons learned.... |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by SHILOH2013 on 2013-06-11 9:31 PM lent out the trailer and a horse that was in the trailer damaged it. Who is responsible to pay for the damages =- we do have trailer insurance with a deductible. Did you take time-dated pictures of the inside and outside of the trailer JUST BEFORE they borrowed it? If not, they could claim that was the way it was when they borrowed it...:( |
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Location: MI. | Unfortunately, you lent the trailer so you took the risk. Has this person offered to take care of the deductible?
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Location: MS | If you loan out a car, you expect to get it back in the same condition as when you lent it. If you don't the person you lent it to is responsible. In the case of a horse trailer, there is that horse to factor in...you can't explain to him that he can't damage what he is being hauled in. I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me that whoever owned the horse should be responsible at least for the deductible since there is that expectation of property being returned in the same condition. Even though you loaned out the trailer knowingly, the person you loaned it to TOOK it knowingly and as such assumed responsibility. |
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| They should at least pay for the deductible, but should and doing so are 2 different things. |
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Location: AZ | That sux. you try and do the nice thing and you are the one with the messed up trailer. Did you have any sort of verbal contract...they are legal in AZ I know...regarding damages? How bad is the damage? Cosmetic or structural? Depending on the severity of the damage would determine what I would do. I often haul others and their horses when going on a ride...and have wondered if the people I 'haul' would 'pony up' and pay for any damages their horse caused. Good luck. |
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Location: Northwest Ohio | Paying at least the deductible seems to be the popular answer. I agree the "borrower" needs to pay. However, if the owner turns in the claim, he/she isn't out the amount of the deductible but it's their insurance claim record being affected....and not at their fault. What if they happen to have a legit claim soon? Are their premiums going to increase? Will they get dropped altogether? |
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Location: South Dakota | Originally written by PaulChristenson on 2013-06-11 11:13 PM
This is WHY you do NOT lend trailers to people...:( Exactly. I worked hard to afford my trailer. We don't lend it out. |
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Location: Acton, CA 93510 | thanks everyone for your input. this was my daughter's trailer that she lent out to help out a friend. never again. They had offered to go through their insurance company but since it wasn't considered a liability accident - they won't pay. This is covered under her insurance as comprehensive and does not raise her rates. i even verified it with my insurance company. The owner of the horse finally agreed to pay the deductible. tailer was damaged pretty good. |
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Location: NY | that is a shame that this happen, the same thing happen to a friend the trailer was total, the person using the trailer said it was not her fault and the insurance company said that the insurance is on the truck and did not cover the trailer so she was out the whole amount for the trailer . that is why I got trailer insurance on my so the trailer is cover no matter who is towing it |
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Location: northeast Texas | All of the trailer comprehension policies I have seen do not cover damage from horses, as that is often a "given" to happen. |
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Location: North Carolina | if the borrower has liability insurance, either homeowner, umbrella, or horse related. .. this might be covered. I have a horse liability umbrella policy that will cover anything my horse damages. |
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| I'm the father of the girl that owns the trailer. To say the least I'm disappointed with her as well as the ones that borrowed the trailer. I upset because she knows that loaning something out like this in my book is wrong. She had just paid the trailer off and it wasn't an easy task. As for her "friends" that borrowed the trailer for trying to pass it off and put out on her shoulders and her insurance company doesn't sit well with me either. Yes the trailer will be fixed and yes she has learned a valuable lesson that will stay with her. |
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Location: NY | It is moments like this you know who your friends truly are,it is a tough lesson to learn |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by califhorseman on 2013-06-15 11:30 PM
I'm the father of the girl that owns the trailer. To say the least I'm disappointed with her as well as the ones that borrowed the trailer. I upset because she knows that loaning something out like this in my book is wrong. She had just paid the trailer off and it wasn't an easy task. As for her "friends" that borrowed the trailer for trying to pass it off and put out on her shoulders and her insurance company doesn't sit well with me either. Yes the trailer will be fixed and yes she has learned a valuable lesson that will stay with her. Ah...the "pleasures" of parenthood... |
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Location: La Cygne, KS | Hopefully she didn't receive money for trailer use. That opens up a whole new can of worms. Since the borrowers are not offering to pay for damages it sounds like they paid for use of the trailer. |
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| No she didn't receive any money for letting them use the trailer as the old saying goes "nothing is going to happen" and parenting never ends.
The trailer goes in the shop this morning |
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