How to estimate value of used trailer if no comparables can be found?
Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-02-01 4:40 PM (#149644)
Subject: How to estimate value of used trailer if no comparables can be found?


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I'm trying to decide what I do about my current Turnbow Trailer, which I LOVE LOVE LOVE, however, I'm considering if now is the time to sell it to get a newer trailer, OR, if I can't get much for it, I'll put money into completely repainting it from head to tail.It's a trailer I've never seen ANYWHERE AT ALL - I can't find any comps. It's a 1994 Steel Slant/Stock Combo 2.5-3 horse (if one horse is small) Gooseneck with the stock sides in the horse area and a fully insulated, paneled and carpeted dressing room with extra marine battery to run lights and sure-flo pump for custom installed water tank (so you have pressurized water)It is also 7'6" inside height and 7' wide. The stalls are wide, too at 44 inches. It has a full sized escape door (horse-sized) and a nice wide, low angled ramp. The roof is also fiberglass so it is really nice and cool for the horses. Lastly, it has storm doors for the back (right now I just have the ramp as the rear door) and it has full Plexi Glass to cover the stock sides in winter.Anyways - because it is steel, I know I have to maintain it as there is a bit of surface rust - just superficial at this point. But instead of doing just touch-up work, I'm thinking of biting the bullet and having a body shop re-do it entirely - IF I PLAN TO KEEP IT FOREVER.So my conundrum is - I want to know if I should sell it, or invest and keep it. And I can't make that decision until I know what i could get for it - selling it.And I can't guess on that, because I literally cannot for the life of me find any comparable trailer.How does one guess on price if there are no comps? Can you guys help me decide? I love my trailer, but I also wonder if I can sell it for enough, maybe get a new one?EDIT: sorry - I cannot for the life of me get the paragraph spacing to show up!??

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2013-02-01 10:16 PM (#149647 - in reply to #149644)
Subject: RE: How to estimate value of used trailer if no comparables can be found?



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all I could say is look for one that is as close to yours as possible and them price it up or down for there were you live  will also set the price some area are high and some are low
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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-02-02 9:34 AM (#149656 - in reply to #149644)
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Thanks, LD. I only found two Turnbows for sale on HTW and will just have to try and find something close I guess.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2013-02-02 10:31 AM (#149658 - in reply to #149644)
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One way to place a value on a trailer is to price its replacement. This will determine if it's worth it to you, to effect a restoration/upgrade and keep it, or to sell it outright. A complete restoration of a non LQ stock trailer can easily exceed $4K, particularly if you farm out all of the work. Much of the labour costs can be a DIY project, saving a great deal of money.

Twenty year old steel trailers usually need work, and don't command high resale prices. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay, and that would involve any planed future maintenance/upgrades. Without a restoration, including new tires, brakes, bearings, rust issues, lights and wiring, many steel trailers of that age are only worth a couple thousand dollars.

If you do complete a restoration, and your trailer has been fully amortized, your costs will be significantly less than a new purchase. You will also have the chance to add the many things you've put off, and customize it to your wishes.

If you like the trailer and it has no structural issues, keep it. Enjoy it for another twenty years.

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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-03-11 11:09 PM (#150532 - in reply to #149644)
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Gard - thanks for that great feedback and advice. The trailer has been very well maintained. Brand new tires and spare, all wiring and brakes all in top shape/new. New jack....the interior is immaculate. It's just that it has superficial rust and will need a new paint job. I guess I should keep it and just have that done. Quotes here are $3K though, and that is the low end of estimates.....
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horsin around
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2013-03-12 10:35 AM (#150535 - in reply to #149644)
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I was in the same position about six years ago and decided to have my trailer repainted thinking I planned to keep it for years more.  At the time my trailer was parked outside and I started to notice surface rust after three years. 

It made me think about a friend of mine that had her trailer repainted three times. She still has it and would have liked to have traded it off before the last paint job but was looking at retiring the next year. I thought I'm young enough that could happen to me and didn't want to do that and decided I could take the $3,000 + for a future painted job to apply towards another trailer.  

I thought it would be best for me to sell the trailer while it was looking good and I unofficially start to look for an aluminum trailer.  It took a year to find a trailer with the size and options I wanted. I was blessed to be able to buy my aluminum trailer for a $6,000 difference and managed to sell one for more that I had in it after owning it ten years.  We built and new barn last year so my trailer sits in now and I have no regrets and love my trailer I have now.

If my trailer would have been inside, I probably would have kept my trailer I had but one thing is for sure, rusts happens and I under estimated how quick.  The big thing is how much money are you willing to put into buying a different trailer vs. putting into your current trailer. 



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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-03-12 5:30 PM (#150540 - in reply to #150535)
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HA - OMG, thank you!! Your thought process sounds just like mine!!!! I keep thinking, why would I spend $3K to paint it now - and relegate myself to keeping it "forever" and repainting etc. When in fact, I could sell it now as is, and apply that money from the sale, plus the "$3K + paint" and add more to the budget for a NEW ALUMINUM TRAILER :) I really want to go that route. So I think I'll just it on my current trailer as is, and keep my eyes peeled. I found my dream trailer - a Twister.....but we just bought a barn and hubby is sooo not on board with new trailer. He says "YOU HAVE A FUNCTIONING TRAILER NOW" :)
Originally written by horsin around on 2013-03-12 8:35 AM

I was in the same position about six years ago and decided to have my trailer repainted thinking I planned to keep it for years more.  At the time my trailer was parked outside and I started to notice surface rust after three years. 

It made me think about a friend of mine that had her trailer repainted three times. She still has it and would have liked to have traded it off before the last paint job but was looking at retiring the next year. I thought I'm young enough that could happen to me and didn't want to do that and decided I could take the $3,000 + for a future painted job to apply towards another trailer.  

I thought it would be best for me to sell the trailer while it was looking good and I unofficially start to look for an aluminum trailer.  It took a year to find a trailer with the size and options I wanted. I was blessed to be able to buy my aluminum trailer for a $6,000 difference and managed to sell one for more that I had in it after owning it ten years.  We built and new barn last year so my trailer sits in now and I have no regrets and love my trailer I have now.

If my trailer would have been inside, I probably would have kept my trailer I had but one thing is for sure, rusts happens and I under estimated how quick.  The big thing is how much money are you willing to put into buying a different trailer vs. putting into your current trailer. 

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-03-13 9:38 AM (#150545 - in reply to #149644)
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I always go back to the "what can I afford" philosophy. Sit down with a pen and paper and do a cash flow analysis. Include the what if's on the negative side. I'm in my late fifties and I still go back to my mom the bankers theory, that applies to everything. "You don't need it, if you can't pay for it!"

Not trying to be negative. Sometimes it pays to be proactive and replace things before you have to. How much will it cost to do the repairs on your current trailer? Can that be applied to the new one? Will a little cosmetic work on the old one get a better price?

You have a lot of questions to answer within yourself.

Good Luck!

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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-03-13 9:40 AM (#150546 - in reply to #149644)
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Fancy- are you using a Mac computer? Try this for paragraphs

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horsin around
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2013-03-13 9:55 AM (#150549 - in reply to #150540)
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After building a new barn last year, I'd probably would have told myself "no" to a different trailer so I'm glad I bought a different trailer before building the barn which at the time wasn't in the plans.

When I decided what to price my trailer, I looked at lots of ads and had been following ads for about a year. I really couldn't find a comparable either because I couldn't find a another 1997 trailer in exceptional shape like mine. I took into factor the new paint job outside and also in the horse compartment, newer tires plus living quarters.  I use my trailer a lot so I kept everything up in good working shape so the people that bought my trailer didn't need to do anything to it.  I stayed firm on my price because I knew looking at ads I couldn't find another one out there for sale at that time like it and was able to sell it within a month.

When I looked at I'd have to spend at least $3,000 down the road sometime for a new paint job, I thought of it that I really just spent another $3,000.00 to get into an aluminum.  I'm known as the bargain queen so I did search high and low for over a year to find that right bargain and was willing to travel for it, from Iowa to Nashiville, TN.  I didn't buy a new trailer but one the same year as I had and went from a 2h to 3h and good quality Sidekick trailer. 

I knew that I would have to spend some money on it as time went by so I put an awning on it the first year and new tires the 2nd year. You're always at risk on refrigerator, air, furnance and hot water heater on an older trailer but all are in good working condition and I figured I would deal with it down the road if they go out.  I don't do loans so it made it affordable for me.

I said I was unofficially looking because if I didn't find the right price for me, I was keeping what I had unless I did.  Having patience is a big key on finding the right trailer and if it takes you a while to find it, maybe your husband will start to get over the crunch of buying a new barn.  If you look long enough, you'll know the right trailer when you find it.  Good luck! 

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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-03-13 4:01 PM (#150554 - in reply to #149644)
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Thanks for all the great advice, guys. I know I have alot to think about. I actually have alot of cash in the bank. The new used trailer would be paid in full, cash. We have no credit card debt and very well-paying careers. But still.......it's ALOT to plunk down $20K+ for a horse trailer, when my hubby still says "But you HAVE ONE!" :)I know I really want to upgrade and have a newer trailer with some features mine doesnt have, but the practical side of me hesitates, since my current trailer IS highly-functional, works great, and is really roomy for the horses. I'm just debating on getting the paint job or not......:)
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Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-03-13 4:23 PM (#150555 - in reply to #149644)
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Typ the rust you see is the tip of the ice berg.

Problem with steel horse tralers is,, they are made of steel beams (tube, channel, andgle) and sheet metal.

Often there are multi layered seams where sheet metal meets fram, etc. when the factory paints then they only paint the exterior, then caulk the seams. The caulk dries and fails in 6-12 months and water gets in the seam and starts rust.

The underside is worse, the seams/joints are not sealed, and often not painted.

Have you crawled under the trailer, and spent a good hour under there.

Unless you strip the trailer and have it dipped,, you are just slowing the rust down. Not to say that with a lot of effort you could make the trailer look good for another 10 years,,  but how are you going to deal with the rust "INSIDE" the seams.

This issue with steel trailers comes from the consumer,, we gladley pay 10K for a new steel trailer that will start rusting in a month,, but we will not pay 12k for the same trailer that would be rust free for years :(

 

Nick

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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-03-13 5:28 PM (#150557 - in reply to #149644)
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^^^^ OMG, it STILL doesn't show my "returns" or "line spacing" for paragraphs! and it shows it fine in the compose window, plus in the preview window. UGH. Sorry folks. How annoying....... (I'm not on Mac)
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siseley
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2013-03-14 6:31 PM (#150578 - in reply to #149644)
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Just an aside, I too see braks and paragraphs when composing, as well as preview. Then it comes out like one long sentence when it posts.I DUNNO?
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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-03-14 9:48 PM (#150579 - in reply to #150578)
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Sis - we need some tech support here :) LOL!!!! Wierd that it won't show our page breaks/paragraphs....argh!
Originally written by siseley on 2013-03-14 4:31 PM

Just an aside, I too see braks and paragraphs when composing, as well as preview. Then it comes out like one long sentence when it posts.I DUNNO?
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Posted 2013-03-15 7:59 AM (#150580 - in reply to #149644)
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Put a < br > or < p > between paragraphs, but take the spaces out

Terri (who had the same problem!)

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Fancy That
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2013-03-15 10:15 AM (#150583 - in reply to #150580)
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Originally written by SCWalker on 2013-03-15 5:59 AM<BR><BR>Put a < br > or < p > between paragraphs, but take the spaces out<P>Terri (who had the same problem!)


I found it out. Instead of typing the HTML code for 'break' and 'paragraph', you just check the "disable HTML in this post" checkbox under the compose view :)

Mine was un-checked!

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