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Location: ohio | Found a used Exiss bp trailer, am downsizing from a 3hr gn. Does anyone know if this trailer has problems with 'trailer sway'? I've been warned that bp's can have that problem...haven't experienced it with a gn.Any input about the Exiss is appreciated. |
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Location: ohio | Does anyone own an Exiss? Do you like it?? |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Quote... Does anyone know if this trailer has problems with 'trailer sway'? I've been warned that bp's can have that problem.. What are you using for a tow vehicle? That's got more to do with trailer sway than the trailer itself... |
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Location: ohio | Currently a Dodge Cummins 3/4 ton. Pulls the 3hr GN with no problem. Will need to replace it in the future though. I have a friend with a Hawk bp Trailer that uses a Ford f150...she never has trailer sway. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | I pull one of these... http://www.goretrailers.com/trailer3a.htm With a 3/4 ton pickup with no WD hitch, sway bars, air bags or helper spring. Never had a problem with sway, running load range "E" tires at 80 psi. Pull this same trailer with a 1/2 ton and you'll need WD hitch, sway bars, tire upgrade, helper springs, etc. Trailer has a tongue weight of about 900# when we're all loaded up. I would imagine that your Exiss would be much lighter. Your future Exiss trailer look like this one? 
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Location: ohio | Yes, it does look like that...I haven't gone to see it in person yet. So I would still need a 3/4 ton truck to pull it? |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by painted_amigo on 2012-08-04 8:12 PM
Yes, it does look like that...I haven't gone to see it in person yet. So I would still need a 3/4 ton truck to pull it? Not really, kinda depends on the tongue weight, total weight and the weight that the 1/2 ton is rated to pull. Alot of "depends" when it comes to a half ton. Some may be rated to pull 10K#, some only 3500#... |
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Location: western PA | Trailer sway is usually caused by an improper tongue weight, which is commonly a result of loading practices. With a straight load trailer and the axles torwards the rear of the Exiss, it should not be a problem having sufficient tongue weight. Exiss has built many trailers, and has a wide fan base. The fact that many of their products are being used and resold with well over a decade of age, is testimony to their construction and material qualities. Having a capable tow vehicle is necessary. When it is over loaded, the trailer's nose will be low, not fully supported, and the front axle will be carrying more weight than the rear. This is the perfect storm for trailer sway. With a slant load BP, if only the rear stalls are utilised, the tongue weight will be unloaded, and again there will be a swaying problem. I have, and have had, many BP trailers and towed with several different vehicles. None of them needed sway correction mechanicals. A 3/4 ton truck is quite capable of pulling the Exiss 2H BP without any issues. |
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Location: ohio | Thanks for the info. I will be looking at a new 'used' truck down the road....what exactly does a 'tow package' mean...or does it vary from truck to truck? |
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Location: western PA | Tow packages in HD pickups usually involve aux coolers, (engine, transmission etc), revised suspension components, various axle ratios, built in brake controllers, heavier braking systems, frame mounted hitches, trailer wiring, higher capacity tires etc. Usually purchasing this as a factory option, is much less expensive than adding individual after market products. Here's one manufacturer's towing products: http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/11FLMRVTT_SuperDtyNov18.pdf |
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Location: ohio | Thanks Gard, I really appreciate the info.Just got back from looking at the Exiss.....the dressing room leaks....and we are in a drought here, just recently had a little rain....not sure where the leak is located. |
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Location: Northern CA | Be careful getting a half-ton truck even if it is new. I have too many friends that abought the F-150 and have had nothing but problems with it towing 2 horse BP. The trannies go out shortly. Especially if you are going to be pulling hills |
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Location: western PA | Originally written by painted_amigo on 2012-08-05 2:11 PM
Thanks Gard, I really appreciate the info.Just got back from looking at the Exiss.....the dressing room leaks....and we are in a drought here, just recently had a little rain....not sure where the leak is located. The Exiss can be easily recaulked, there are few seams and roof protrusions in that model. |
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Location: ohio | Not sure that I want to buy a 6yr old trailer that has a leaky dressing room...my 15yr old Sooner has been thru lots of heavy rains thru the years and has never leaked. Just gotta wonder if will be a chronic problem...the leak is on the wall where the saddle rack is attached...the carpet is wet...and there is standing water in the little trench (?) where the carpet meets the wall...I don't want moldy tack....and we haven't had any heavy rains here, so was surprised to see water. I think I will keep looking for now. |
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Location: western PA | Too bad ~$25 of caulking materials didn't change your mind. |
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Location: ohio | My feeling is, if a 6yr old trailer is leaking...is must be defective, which is probably why someone sold it....I have had a few 'old' trailers, 15 plus years that never had leaks...I live in an area where we do get a fair amount of rain...lots of snow etc...I don't need moldy tack...and caulking might not fix the problem..or they would have probably fixed it themselves.....I'll just keep looking..not in a rush to buy another trailer. |
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Location: Arkansas | Have friends that very nearly passed on a 4 year old trailer with the same situation. Turns out the trailer had been to the very powerful semi truck wash and the bit of water they found was from that. They did go over the trailer with a water hose etc and could not recreate the leak, then they did go ahead and re-caulk after they bought it, and used it for many more years without any more issues. Oh, that one was a gooseneck 2 h slant with a nice weekender package... a 4 star model. |
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Location: Northern CA | ALL trailers need to be re-caulked every 5-6 years. If you are looking at older trailers then you need to make sure the owner has re-caulked the roof entirely. The windows as well as any trim on the trailer. Don't pass up on a nice trailer just cause it needs new caulking. Maybe talk to the seller and see if they will adjust their asking price for the caulk job needing to be done? |
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Location: Upstate NY | another thing that will cause/correct sway is the level of the ball. a 2500 Dodge might require a 4" drop to get your trailer into the sweet spot for the horses levelness and to get the right pressure distributed between the truck and the trailer's axles. switching to an F150 (or dodge 1500) might require a straight bar or even a rise to find that sweet spot on the new truck. |
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Location: ohio | I have a 15 yr old Sooner GN, I have never caulked it...and it has never leaked. My riding buddy has a 15 yr old Hawk BP...she has never had to caulk hers and no leaks either. I still think a 6 yr old trailer that leaks is defective...or they just don't make trailers like they use to. |
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Location: Northern CA | That is not the norm. You are lucky yours hasn't leaked yet, but I have to say It would be crazy to not re-caulk it at this point. Why would you wait until it starts to leak and then everything inside is ruined or moldy and has to be thrown out and or stripped. I sure hope yours is not a LQ. This is maintentance people. It's almost like having the tranny serviced. WHY would you not do it?
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Location: Arkansas | And then there are those leaks that have seeped for a long time before they are found.... often on trailers that were never recaulked! Caulk is made by caulk companies, not trailer manufacturers, a fine trailer can remain so with a tad of maintanence.. |
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Location: northeast Texas | I know lots of people pull Exiss trailers and love them. But in 2006 we were shopping for something with a shell we could make into a weekender ourselves. We went to a dealership to look at a new 06 Exiss GN with a 6' shell. It happened to be raining when we arrived. We opened the DR door and water was pouring down the long side wall like a small waterfall and pooling in the floor. We just shut the door and the dealer shrugged. Walked across the lot and looked at a Cimarron, and thats what we bought. My neighbor had a similar Exiss Sport and then an Exiss full LQ and both leaked in the same area. One was an 04 and the other an 06 model. The LQ had to have the whole wall and cabinets replaced. Exiss came from the factory and picked it up. Eventually we were told there was a sort of defect in some of those year models where the wall and roof came together. |
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Location: ohio | It seems like leaking is more common in models built in 2000 or newer, not just Exiss.Older trailers were just made better I guess. |
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