Old Head 2 Head, "78", ever see one like this? Pics
MrSteve
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2012-07-16 6:17 PM (#145626)
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Hi everyone... New to the forums. My wife and I just picked up this horse trailer (not sure if allowed to post the price here). It's in pretty good shape for a 34 year old trailer (wow, I was in Jr high when this trailer was made).

I was wondering if anyone has ever seen one like this? It is a 1978 Bellamy 6 horse head to head, the title says its 28' but the trailer over length is 34', not really sure why they left out the overhang/goose area off that measurement (1st goose I have owned, but all my RV 5th wheels were over all length). Our plan is to redo it little by little, I have already started the strip down to see whats "in side", check for leaks, replace wiring and so on. It did come with all the very heavy steel stall panels, chains and so on for 6 horses, the trailer is setup up for box stalls, but nothing for box stalls came with it, so that will be a added setup for later.

Here are a few photos "after" I started to strip it out.

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20Horse%20Trailer/h2h1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20Horse%20Trailer/h2h2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20Horse%20Trailer/h2h3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20Horse%20Trailer/h2h4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20Horse%20Trailer/h2h5.jpg[/IMG]
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2012-07-16 6:48 PM (#145628 - in reply to #145626)
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Sorry for the links not working, I must have done something wrong or maybe that isn't allowed here... I missed the edit time to fix the post. I guess I will attach one so you can see the outside of the trail or if you wish you can just copy and past my links above to see the photos I posted.

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Posted 2012-07-16 8:12 PM (#145629 - in reply to #145626)
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Are these the after pictures? Looks like a really nice trailer!
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Posted 2012-07-16 8:18 PM (#145630 - in reply to #145629)
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Originally written by cutter99 on 2012-07-16 8:12 PM

Are these the after pictures? Looks like a really nice trailer!


No, I just started. When I got it, it had old insulation hanging all over, broken plastic wall panels and so on. So I guess what you are looking at now is stripped out and ready to start the work.
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Posted 2012-07-23 7:43 PM (#145775 - in reply to #145626)
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I remember back in the 70's Bellamy's were real high class trailers.  Good luck with your new project! please post more before and after pics.

 

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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-07-23 11:21 PM (#145784 - in reply to #145626)
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Looks like an excellent basis for a project. Best of luck
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Posted 2012-07-25 7:17 PM (#145837 - in reply to #145784)
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Originally written by acy on 2012-07-23 8:43 PM

I remember back in the 70's Bellamy's were real high class trailers. Good luck with your new project! please post more before and after pics.



I can see why... I have to say it seems built really well. I mean after all these years it still had the factory wood floor, not pressure treated believe it or not. The roof looks brand new still and I think the "small" leaks/drips that I have found are from other owners doing silly stuff, as in, replacing old lights that didn't match up to old holes and just adding a screw to one of the holes, not adding news vents the correct way and so on. We have some soft spots and some rot in the corners/around the doors, so the floor has to go. And the Oak, there is so much of it. What they did was the smart thing, they took 1" strips and clued them all together to make the wall sections, SOLID. I have to say 90% of the oak is still 100% and the bad oak is still there, just water stains from the years of a drip here and a drip there to the inside with weather checking in the rear (door areas), the tack room oak is 100%, refinishing should do the job on the oak that needs attention.

Will do on the photos, I have some more, but they just show the removal of "stuff" I will be happy to post them if all wish to see. Just let me know.



Originally written by gard on 2012-07-23 12:21 AM

Looks like an excellent basis for a project. Best of luck


That is what it has turned into, the wife wants it as close to 100%.

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Posted 2012-07-26 5:52 AM (#145850 - in reply to #145626)
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More pictures, please!!!
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2012-07-26 10:47 AM (#145866 - in reply to #145626)
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Ok some more photos, forgive me if I posted one or more before, doing some befores and afters to this point.

When I 1st picked it up...

Facing the front from the back.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Facing the back to the front.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Tack/dressing area.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

In order from above, where I am at this point (less mat removal, I'll show those last so you can see a 35 year old non pressure treated floor)...

Facing the front from the back.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Facing the back from the front.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Tack/dressing area.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Ok mat removed...

Facing the front from the back.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Facing the back from the front.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

I hope I got those right, lol no way to check and repair with a 3 minute time limit on edits.
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Posted 2012-07-26 11:37 AM (#145868 - in reply to #145626)
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Looks good! Keep the pics and updates coming. I enjoy seeing the hard work of others when restoring trailers...
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2012-07-27 9:58 AM (#145894 - in reply to #145626)
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Found another photo I took when playing with the dividers in the 6 horse position.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

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Posted 2012-07-27 10:18 AM (#145895 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks for posting the pictures MrSteve! It is really neat to see what you are doing!

Mrs. MrSteve must be sooooo happy with you!!!

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Posted 2012-07-27 10:32 AM (#145896 - in reply to #145895)
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Originally written by cutter99 on 2012-07-27 11:18 AM

Thanks for posting the pictures MrSteve! It is really neat to see what you are doing!

Mrs. MrSteve must be sooooo happy with you!!!



Funny, you could be right... She has been over nice to me lately ;)
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Posted 2012-09-09 6:38 PM (#146912 - in reply to #145626)
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Small update... I haven't been able to work on the trailer like I would like to, hurt my back. Anyhow, removed the floor today. All is well with the cross members, except the section that holds the ramp for storage and horse loading, as seen in the pic attach, there is that wide open center section that holds the ramp, those cross members will need to be replaced. All in all, the cross members and frame are in good shape for the trailers age.
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Posted 2012-09-09 8:34 PM (#146914 - in reply to #145626)
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this is going to be a really nice trailer when you are done thank you for letting use come for the ride
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Posted 2012-09-14 2:43 PM (#146995 - in reply to #145626)
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I have some more photos for you all if you care to look...

Floor removed, facing front from back
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Floor removed front, looking into the pass side tack room door
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

These pictures to show the damaged cross members where the ramp stores and is placed for horse loading (note, members aren't missing, if they were here you couldn't store the ramp)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

These are pictures of the fenders before they are repaired

Pass side
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Drivers side
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

2 other cross members need to be replaced (I didn't get a good photos of them, but they aren't "that bad", but might as well do them now), both are back of the rear wheels, so they got all the weather from tire spray and any drainage out of the trailer.

Damage members could have been better, could have been worse for such a old trailer, less then 6 cross members needing replaced is better then more then 6 ;)

Could be the last up date for awhile, time to look for new cross members, cut the old ones out and get to welding the new ones in place. Photos will follow of the repairs.

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Posted 2012-09-15 6:07 PM (#147008 - in reply to #145626)
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I for one am following your progress w/great anticipation...
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Posted 2012-09-16 11:31 AM (#147013 - in reply to #145626)
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WOW you are really going to have a great trailer when you are done keep posting I would  love to see this finished
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Posted 2012-09-18 11:38 AM (#147054 - in reply to #145626)
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Will be sure to post new photos when the work starts moving along...

For now... Can I ask how you all feel about this coupler in the links below? In one photo you will see a broken head on one bolt and the other was broken farther up (these bolts hold the moveable jaws), I have replaced those bolts with Grade 8s.

Just something about this coupler doesn't make me feel warm inside, the reason, there seems to be to much confidence left to that "pin" in the back where the U shaped plate holds the jaws together, they both "seem to me" are taking a very big load to trust them. Ok sure, as far as I know this coupler has been on the trailer from day one, but still. Your thoughts?

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

EDIT... As far as I know this coupler is on backward?

Edited by MrSteve 2012-09-18 11:41 AM
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Posted 2012-09-23 2:57 PM (#147159 - in reply to #145626)
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I noticed after putting the trailer on jack stands that 2 out of the 4 wheels could be pushed in a bit. So I opened up one drum to see what was going on and I noticed the last person that packed the wheel bearings switched the washers around that hold/lock the drum to the spindle... These axle use a 2 nut lock system. This person had the "thin" washer on the bearing and the thick washer between the 2 nuts, should be the other way around, thick washer on bearing and thin washer between the 2 nuts (I will call it a slip washer, so when tightening the lock nut, you don't move/tighten more the nut on the bearing side).

Anyhow, just 2 photos, one is just showing the wheels off and the other is showing one drum removed...


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Old system? There is a "plate" bolted to the drum that the brake magnet rides on and in turn the magnet isn't held onto the backing plate by anything, it has 2 springs on 2 studs it rides on and that is what pushes the magnet onto the plate bolted to the drum.
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Posted 2012-09-23 3:23 PM (#147160 - in reply to #145626)
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Sorry I don't have experience w/such things but I'm still enjoying your posts.
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Posted 2012-09-24 8:10 PM (#147194 - in reply to #145626)
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Thats ok Bells, just posting out loud. Maybe others will see this type of thing and understand no matter what, it's always better to check things out yourself and not take the word of others, no matter how old or newer a trailer "seems" to be.

Back to the drums/bearings... Well good to check things, who ever did this job did a good job on greasing the bearings, but putting things back together is another story. 3 hubs the washers were on backward like I stated above but one hub was a big problem waiting to happen. Who ever put BOTH washers riding on the bearing, that means there was no slip washer between the 2 nuts AND the oil seal was in backwards (it was shot from the little ride it took to get here). Luckily this trailer only moved about 1/4 mile to my house after the bearing grease job (the guy I bought the trailer from), I have no doubt that much farther, one spindle would have been shot, ether by no grease in the inner bearing or losing the drum from the spindle all together, those nuts would have walked off.
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Posted 2012-09-25 9:09 AM (#147201 - in reply to #145626)
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Posted 2012-10-26 1:47 PM (#147927 - in reply to #145626)
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Small update... I have all the wiring done in the back where the horses travel and also upgraded the back rear with LEDs, taillights, even the license plate light is LED.

Switches for the back... Note, this is not finish by any means, just took a pic to this point... Went with household switches instead of RV, they will last forever over the little RV switches.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

Rear end lights... Will start to upgrade all the maker lights next. Not shown here, but I will be adding to lower black section a "LedGlow 60 LED strip with reverse lights" (nice strip light, LEDs are really bright, have one on my truck).
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...
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Posted 2012-10-27 12:02 AM (#147931 - in reply to #145626)
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can regular house switches be used in a trailer I thought it had to be out door switches I do not know just a question for my education
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Posted 2012-10-27 7:57 AM (#147932 - in reply to #147931)
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Originally written by loveduffy on 2012-10-27 12:02 AM

can regular house switches be used in a trailer I thought it had to be out door switches I do not know just a question for my education


Sure.... A switch is a switch, just a rocker to open and close a contact for power to a load, no matter if that power is 12v, 120v (but you have a current rating to go by). Think of the trailer as nothing but a home garage or shed on wheels, but using 12v instead of 120. But, don't try to use a "trailer" switch in a house, the contacts would not be able to handle the 120v current/amps.

Edited by MrSteve 2012-10-27 8:01 AM
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Posted 2012-10-27 1:13 PM (#147941 - in reply to #145626)
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WE have regular house switches in the people area of our LQ. In the horse/tack area and on the outside we have outdoor switches.

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Posted 2013-01-27 6:40 PM (#149570 - in reply to #145626)
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Been a awhile on an update... Just a small update, with a big price tag.

Installed new wheels and tires so to get rid of the 16.5 tires and wheels... BFGoodrich Commercial T/A LT 235/85R16 E load rating on Pacer 16x7 aluminum mod wheels (spare is the same tire and wheel combination).

pic...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...
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nice rims looking good
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Yes they look better then the wheels they replaced for sure and having E rated tires sure is going to give piece of mind over the D rated tires the last owner was running on this monster.

I just ordered 20 truck-lite led marker lights (I believe 15 LEDs in each fixture), 11 amber and 9 red... Going to add 2 amber and 2 red on the lower section of the trailer so to have some lighting down in the center and rear corners, I'll add a couple of photos of them when I'm done.
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Posted 2013-02-15 6:51 PM (#149942 - in reply to #145626)
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LED markers are installed, 2 pics... Best $140 I ever spent when it comes to lighting, I mean how can you beat the brightness when the all the marker/parking lights take less then 5 amps total over the 18+ amps draw from the old incandescent bulbs.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/FHF2Omen/Head%202%20Head%20H...

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Posted 2013-02-16 7:38 AM (#149948 - in reply to #145626)
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good job, very nice looking trailer
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Posted 2013-02-16 8:32 AM (#149949 - in reply to #145626)
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  Wow-  I remember these trailers from back in the 70's,  they're solid! 
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Posted 2013-02-17 8:17 AM (#149958 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks... Its getting there.

I have to agree, to last this long with no attention speaks volumes on built quality.
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Posted 2013-02-17 3:37 PM (#149963 - in reply to #145626)
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Wow! Looking good!
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Posted 2013-03-15 9:17 AM (#150581 - in reply to #145626)
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Another update... I added Radio/TV antennas, LED marker lights, completed insulation of the trailer walls/ceiling, also replaced the goose overhang floor with 3/4 ply-wood (painted, grey).

I did get a new brake controller for the truck, a Tekonsha P3. What a world of diffidence from the 10 year thing it replaced. With that said, I hooked the trailer up for a test drive to set up the new controller (I can't tell you how nice it is to have a 1/4 mile paved driveway) and that made me remember I never did show a photo of the trailer hooked up to the truck, so here that is... You can see the new Winegard RS-2000 Roadstar TV, AM/FM antennas on top (radio antenna is spring loaded, placed on the driver side roof, makes the trailer 11'6") and the new marker lights. I added bottom/top center LEDs that the trailer never had on the lower and upper center sections (far back and front are reflectors, they were the old round type riveted on, I replaced them with long ovals that are covering old rivet holes)...

(I'll show the rest of the pics here in my post so you don't have to do anymore clicking to see them)


EDIT... opps, I see I already talked about the LEDs a few post back.

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Posted 2013-03-15 10:06 AM (#150582 - in reply to #145626)
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Wow - What a gorgeous trailer you have!! Love the classic lines.
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Posted 2013-03-15 10:43 AM (#150584 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks... I have been thinking on looking for a late 70s "somthing" to restore to haul the trailer for local horse shows. If for anything for the fun factor for myself that the walk by attention the set up would get, while the wife is having her fun with the horses... Not that the rig would be show quality, just for fun.
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Posted 2013-03-15 4:36 PM (#150585 - in reply to #145626)
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Posted 2013-03-15 4:39 PM (#150586 - in reply to #145626)
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Looks VERY nice!!

Have you put it on a scale? It looks very solid (heavy)

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Posted 2013-03-15 5:16 PM (#150587 - in reply to #150586)
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Originally written by cajunmuleman on 2013-03-15 5:39 PM

Looks VERY nice!!

Have you put it on a scale? It looks very solid (heavy)




Not yet, wouldn't do any good at the moment, no floor 38 . Not that it says anything, but I was a bit surprised that it only dropped the truck down about 1 1/2" in the rear. I will for sure put it on the scales when done, I am hoping for a max empty (no live stock, but all dividers/equipment installed) weight of around the mid 8,000lb range.
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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2013-03-15 11:28 PM (#150589 - in reply to #145626)
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In car lingo, we would call your trailer a "resto" rod; a term given to an older car not originally restored, but rebuilt and updated with modern appointments, to make it viable for today's usage. You have maintained the classic looks and added modern capabilities, and now have the best of both worlds.

Many people have asked if they should keep their older trailers or buy a new one. Your efforts are showing exactly why I've often said, if possible, keep the one you have.

Your trailer and handiwork will far outshine all the modern bling and mega yachts, commonly found at your horse events. The big buck spenders will be very jealous of your handiwork. I'm sure that many people will be asking where they can get a trailer like yours.

Very well done; indeed.

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Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2013-03-16 8:46 AM (#150593 - in reply to #145626)
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Looks really nice Mr. Steve! Please post more pictures as you go!
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Posted 2013-03-20 9:24 AM (#150677 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks again for the kind words.

And Gard... I would like to thank you personality for taking the time for your post to me. Makes the work even more worth the effort.

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Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2013-03-21 10:31 AM (#150696 - in reply to #145626)
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Steve you have a great talent, this is coming out fantastic  
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Posted 2013-03-23 7:22 AM (#150743 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks so much.

I did some cross member work where the ramp is held under the trailer. When I get to my computer later I'll post a photo or 2 of that project.
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Posted 2013-03-24 9:38 AM (#150786 - in reply to #145626)
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Sorry I didn't make it to the computer yesterday, but here are a few photos of that ramp section...

Before...




And after... Just roughed in at the moment, have to cut the door latch openings, weld everything together, then paint (I used galvanized on all cross members that needed to be replaced, 6 total).
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-04-03 6:27 AM (#151067 - in reply to #145626)
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I started the interior.... I should have some photos of that part of the project in a few days. To save some (a lot) of money on this old girl I just went with plywood instead of aluminum or reinforced plastic panels, I know down the road I'll have to do the ceiling again because of condensation on the ceiling cross members. I learned a hard lesson on how much an aluminum trailer stretches and shrinks because of hot days and colder nights this time of year in Florida... After doing the length of the trailer ceiling, I had to go back and open all the seems by just over a 1/4". I swear this trailer is 34' by night and 34' 6' by day... Anyhow, now figure out what to use to cover the seems.
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Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-04-03 8:54 AM (#151068 - in reply to #145626)
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Can't wait to see the new interior!
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Posted 2013-04-03 5:49 PM (#151080 - in reply to #145626)
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I was able to get more done today then I thought. Here is a photo of the back, still lots of work to do, add trim to the seems, screw in the window trim/add window protection (so the horse don't knock out a window) The hanging wires are for a "night light" as my wife puts it (over the other switches to the left in photo), far back left and right fans and in the center back power for a camera system, etc, etc and so on.
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Posted 2013-04-03 6:05 PM (#151081 - in reply to #145626)
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-04-03 6:19 PM (#151082 - in reply to #145626)
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Thank you... I can't wait for the 1st horse to tear it up in there after all my hard work
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-04-11 5:16 PM (#151237 - in reply to #145626)
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Some updated photos... Still not done, lots of work to do up front in the tack room, kind of making it a "sleeping area", so I have to add the fun stuff like, cabinets, TV, Radio and so on... I still have to get the cross members welded in so I can do the floor, I hope this weekend.So you will remember what I had to work with in the start of all this, some photos of what it looked like before the work was done...The back...The front...And now...The back...The front...

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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-04-11 5:22 PM (#151238 - in reply to #145626)
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^^^ Sorry not sure what happen up there in my last post, I had everything spaced, but it didn't come out that way when the post showed up and to late to try an edit, sorry for the confusing looking post.
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Posted 2013-04-11 6:43 PM (#151239 - in reply to #145626)
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Looking so awesome Mr Steve! You should be very proud!!!
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Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2013-04-11 10:27 PM (#151245 - in reply to #145626)
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This is still coming out great nice job
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-04-15 9:48 PM (#151329 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks again, things are getting there... Now that I see I can't count on a friend of my wife's from work to weld the new cross members and ramp section, looks like I will become a Welder now... Had to go out and get a Mig today, kind of pulls money from the trailer budget, but I gotta do what I gotta do.
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Posted 2013-04-17 11:32 PM (#151379 - in reply to #145626)
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that sucks I know how that feels you can only rely on your self -when you are done you could go in to the trailer fixing business
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Posted 2013-04-22 7:26 PM (#151489 - in reply to #145626)
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^^^^Isn't that the truth.

Getting a bit closer... The floor is done. A few more photos.

A few of my new to me welding skills, fenders repaired (I didn't get a photo before I cut out the old sections, but they were rusted out) and ramp holding section (welds aren't pretty, but they are strong, pretty welds will come later with time)...







Floor and divider polls/floor plates done


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Posted 2013-04-23 10:42 PM (#151521 - in reply to #145626)
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wow that trailer is real coming out top of the line the welds look good to me
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Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-04-24 7:01 PM (#151529 - in reply to #145626)
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Gorgeous!
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Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-04-25 7:59 AM (#151538 - in reply to #145626)
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Wow, that looks absolutely professional! Actually, probably better, because you really CARE.
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Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-04-25 4:45 PM (#151549 - in reply to #145626)
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Thank you 3 very much... Yeah I have always been the type of person to do the best I can, no matter if it was my things or some other persons things I was working on... After all the best you have is all you have, no reason to belittle "yourself" with anything less then your best.

Not sure if I want to do another project like this, for myself or someone else, but... I do have a old bumper pull straight load 4 horse "Ponderosa" that needs LOTS of attention I might dig in to.

I have another little update for you all... I sent the wife out for 8ea 4x6 floor mats to cover the floor and she came back with floor mats alright, 4x6 by 3/4s thick stall mats. I guess she wants the horses to float on a cloud while traveling, lol. That's ok we all know the horses have to ride the best they can (oh, I let her ride in the back for a short test drive, "Kind of bouncy in here, can "we" add shocks", oh Lord help me). In any case, there is another 800lbs added to the trailer, so with wood floor and mats I estimate I have added about 2200lb to the trailer! Looks like a new truck is in "my" future 43 , funny how things work out and I thought I was redoing the trailer for no gain for myself 52

Well here is a photo of the mats installed (polls in this photo are setup for 4 horse)


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Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2013-04-25 4:54 PM (#151550 - in reply to #145626)
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It really looks REALLY GOOD!!!! I guess I would be out-of-line by asking you to redo one for me!!(LOL)
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Posted 2013-05-01 2:30 PM (#151730 - in reply to #151550)
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Originally written by cajunmuleman on 2013-04-25 5:54 PM

It really looks REALLY GOOD!!!! I guess I would be out-of-line by asking you to redo one for me!!(LOL)


Ok you pulled my arm, what you got ;)
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Posted 2013-05-02 7:14 AM (#151743 - in reply to #145626)
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I was just joking, but very nice of you to ask. You sure are putting a lot of effort in this project and it sure shows. You will have the trailer that everyone will talk about where ever you go. Keep post pics it looks great!
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Posted 2013-05-02 8:38 AM (#151744 - in reply to #145626)
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Oh believe me, I was joking as well... That is why I did the ;) (sideways eye wink).

I don't think it's anywhere near a looker, but maybe they will stop and say "what nut did all that work on such a old trailer?)

I will say this, I do believe I added another 30+ years to its usable life... Would be cool if it's still being used in 2040 (and cooler if Im still here seeing it being used).
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Posted 2013-05-02 3:52 PM (#151749 - in reply to #145626)
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Wow this is just amazing. I love how you have up-cycled it!! Quality work and kept it out of a landfill where it did not belong!
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Posted 2013-05-07 2:54 PM (#151823 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks Bells.

The little stuff is slowing me down now, but it can be used if needed.
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Posted 2013-05-07 3:59 PM (#151825 - in reply to #145626)
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Posted 2013-05-08 11:34 PM (#151845 - in reply to #145626)
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Posted 2013-05-10 10:46 AM (#151882 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks for your update! I enjoy looking at your pictures and you've done a fantasic job!

What did you use to cover your wheel wells with on the inside?  I have some shaped similar and would like to recover them since it has spots bare.  When I Herculined my floor I put a coat on those areas too but it'd look much nice to recover..

Thanks!

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Posted 2013-05-12 12:08 PM (#151926 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks again for the kind words.

H A.... Nothing there put paint. It held up well over the years with no padding what so ever.
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Posted 2013-05-15 1:46 AM (#151999 - in reply to #145626)
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I started reading your accomplishments the first night that I found this site a few months back. You're doing an awfully nice job. Wow!  I too, have threatened to learn to weld, and I'm a long of tooth gal (older than dirt... ha ha ha).

I've redone a couple of trailers in the past... an old 2 horse Miley, and a 3 horse diagonal Brawley. It is a lot of dirty work and does take a lot of time and elbow grease. (I love the Chevy commercial where they deliver several 50 gallon drums of "elbow grease".)

Keep up the good work. It will look wonderful when you finish.

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Posted 2013-05-16 7:36 PM (#152076 - in reply to #145626)
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Thank you Coolie Chick.

Wish I had some photos to show, but kind of at a stand still. Started to look for another truck, medium duty class.
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You are definitely an inspiration! What a fabulous job you are doing. Like someone else said, probably a better job than a pro, because you actually care about and will be using the final outcome!
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Posted 2013-05-29 6:53 AM (#152306 - in reply to #145626)
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Thanks again for the kind words.

Sorry no other updates on the trailer... But we did go off and get another truck, 05 F350 crew cab 6.0 diesel, so that took some option money from the trailer to put a little down on the truck. I am a mechanic from my past life and I do know what problems the 6.0 could give, so I bit the bullet and bought a "full" 2 year bumper to bumper warranty for the truck for little piece of mind.
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Posted 2013-06-30 11:37 AM (#153028 - in reply to #145626)
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Went to a bit of a stand still on the tack room of the trailer, building to have somewhat of a living area, that will come in time. But a few photos with the back of the trailer ready to go for horses and of the 1st 2 horse load going to a small pleasure show last night.

Facing front...


Facing back...


And the show... (the person I did this for is the blond with her back facing the camera, my Wife Karen)


This could be the last update for awhile or maybe the last post of this project... Maybe I will start up again when working on the tack room/front area, who knows. Thank you all for the kind words during this longggggg project.

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Posted 2013-06-30 12:20 PM (#153029 - in reply to #145626)
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Ok I wasn't truthful, one more photo... I didn't know that one of the girls took a photo of the horses in the trailer (I can't edit my last post to add this one)...

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Posted 2013-06-30 12:36 PM (#153030 - in reply to #145626)
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At the risk of sounding stupid I have a question, the animals are loaded from the side ramp and backed into their stalls?
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Posted 2013-06-30 12:44 PM (#153031 - in reply to #145626)
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More great pictures Mr. Steve! I bet you have made your wife very happy!
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Posted 2013-06-30 1:03 PM (#153032 - in reply to #153030)
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Originally written by cajunmuleman on 2013-06-30 1:36 PM

At the risk of sounding stupid I have a question, the animals are loaded from the side ramp and backed into their stalls?


Never a stupid questions. Yes they are, reason... Put the weight on the front of the trailer before butting the weight on the back. In this way more hitch weight is sitting on the truck (less if not any concern of sway), really like "any" trailer should be loaded. So in other words, if you have 3 horses, 2 would load in the front section and the 3rd would go in the back. Not sure how true it is, but I have heard that horses travel better facing backwards (lol, maybe by the 1st person that came up with this type of loading). I can say this, 1st time for both of these horses traveling this way and they did great for the short 60 mile round trip. The biggest deal we had is to make them backup to get in the stalls in the 1st place, from them, "hey what are you doing, we don't go in trailer stalls backwards", but it only took a few minutes to get them loaded this way when heading to the show, loading for the trip home, they loaded like they have always done it that way. Going in and coming out was a breeze, walked in and walked out, no backing up to get them out.


Thanks cutter99!
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We load our 6 horse head to head from the side ramp... We make them all back up the ramp and into the stalls...!! Doesn't take long for them to learn.

 

 

 

 

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Posted 2013-06-30 4:35 PM (#153038 - in reply to #145626)
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Wow one lucky lady to have such a beautiful rig! Please post when you get going on the living quarters.
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What a job very nice I hope you get to finish the trailer soon
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