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Location: Noblesville, IN | We are considering going to the Badlands in June 2013. We live in Indianapolis. Any recommendations for camping would be greatly appreciated. |
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    Location: central IL | We've camped at Custer summer of '09 and again September of '11. Both times we stayed at Broken Arrow Campground. It's a super nice place with plenty of trails right out of camp. If you like cleanliness and friendliness, then it's hard to beat. I'd highly recommend staying there. We live in east central IL and have overnighted in Mitchell, SD at Hobby Horse Motel at least 6 times while traveling west. It's right off the interstate, nice large covered runs with water and electric for plugging in your LQ trailer. There is a huge Cabelas, fast food and fuel with a mile. If you're on the west side of Indy, it might be a consideration. Last year coming home, we stayed at Country Cottage Bed and Breakfast in Brayton. The little cottage our friends stayed in was adorable! The owner gave us a grand tour of his home, too, which was a work of art. Super nice folks.
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   Location: Minnesota | Did I miss something? Aceliberty is talking about the Black Hills of SD and I understood the question was re the Badlands. The question should be are we talking the Badlands of SD or the Badlands of ND? |
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    Location: Rayne, LA | It appears there are Badlands in both North and South Dakota? Is this correct? I was told a nice place to ride is from the Elk Haven Horse Ranch which is in the Black Hills of SD. It is a short saddleback ride to Mount Rushmore and Custer State Park. We also are planning a trip to this area and have been told to check with the motorcylce peoples schedule or you may be suprised. |
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Location: Noblesville, IN | I am looking at SD. |
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Location: Noblesville, IN | Ok, my bad. I meant Black Hills, SD.  |
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    Location: Rayne, LA | I was told two of the best places to camp and ride from in this area are Elk Haven Horse Camp and Hay Creek Ranch. This came from two guys who claim to have ridden in this area several times. |
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   Location: Minnesota | I have riden in this area and agree that Elk Haven Horse Camp and Hay Creek Ranch are excellent places. Both camps are well run and you'll enjoy the beauty of the Black Hills. Make sure your horses are in shape. |
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Location: Piedmont SD 57769 | I live and ride in the Black Hills of South Dakota.
so far the information that has been given hasn't been very accurate.
if you want more information for your trip, feel free to email me.... to much to write
denfrancine@aol.com |
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   Location: Minnesota | Enlighten us on the inaccuracy. What camp do you work for again?? |
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   Location: Missouri | I doubt he/she works for any camp. We've ridden many many times in the Black Hills and have stayed at about all the horse camps there and ridden many other trails in the area. Haycreek was the least favorite place we have camped at. Long narrow road into camp, we barely got our trailer around the curves and the trailer we now have wouldn't make it in. Campground is ok but riding was not that great. Mostly forest roads, no water crossings and no real trails, nothing marked. Might be different now. Elkhaven is ok. Campsites hard to get a big rig in. There are some nice rides from there. Broken Arrow is by far our favorite. Clean nice campground, covered pens for horses and easy to get to. There are miles of trails in every direction and most are marked. They have a trailer you can rent to trailer to other trailheads such as Harney Peak, Mt. Rushmore and Custer Park. Do a search on here there should be pics posted. |
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Location: Piedmont SD 57769 | dlr, your attitued is why I chose to give him my emil address
I don't and never have worked for any campgrounds, but I have lived and ridden the Black Hill for about 25 years
just trying to be helpfull ,,,, instead of jumping me and intmating that I am working a secret scheme to fill someones campground.
and here I go again, saying that if the other poster wants several options, he can feel free email me. |
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Location: Piedmont SD 57769 | pooperscopper - Thank You |
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   Location: Missouri | Trax, Your very welcome. If you don't mind would you mind me emailing you. We are going to come up in a few weeks and just primitive camp this time. Looking for some ideas on good places with a few days riding and that a big trailer can get into. Got a few ideas but always open to other suggestions. |
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Location: Piedmont SD 57769 | feel free to email me anytime
denfrancine@aol.com |
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    Location: central IL | Keeping it friendly~but we all come away from experiences with varying opinions. We had good friends who didn't like a favorite campground, but their noses were out of joint due to the dog leash rule. Back to SD~friends who stayed at Hay Creek before joining our huge group at Broken Arrow really liked the rustic atmosphere there. However, they did report that the road to the camp was very narrow when pulling a trailer. They were told to arrive into camp after noon and depart with their rig before noon. That was 3 summers ago, and maybe things have changed. But it's nice to know some of these things, and I applaud cssebs of IN to do some checking beforehand. p.s. Our trip of '09 was during Bike Rally Week. It was great! There were tons of roadside eateries set up all over. The bikers were all friendly. I bought a cute t-shirt in Bandera, TX last month printed with "Harleys and Horses". We all like our "horsepower" and bling.  |
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      Location: Missouri | There's a HUGE difference between the Black Hills and the Badlands. Do a quick google search for photos, and you'll visually see the difference. The Badlands are open, sunny, desert-like, while the Black Hills are wooded and mountainous. Both are beautiful and worth spending time in. You should really grab a guidebook and read about both of them, or do some research online.
Custer State Park, is in the Black Hills.
Which one are you interested in. No way I'd want to ride the Badlands in the summer time. Every time we've gone thru there in the summer, the temps were terrible. I would like to ride them in the winter. The do look like a neat place to investigate.. |
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Location: RR Valley of the North | Also, please do not overlook the Badlands of North Dakota. They are also so very beautiful located in the Theodore Roosevelt Natl Park with the wonderfully groomed Mah ha Dey Trail stretching 80 miles from the South unit of the park near Medora to the North unit. The views here are truly awe inspiring, Medora boasts the Cowboy Museum, Medora Musical in a canyon, Pitchfork fondue, gorgeous Badlands, wildlife galore, open range horse camping in the TRN Park for under $10 a night right near herds of buffalo, the Missouri River National Grasslands and some of the most wonderful riding around over plains, buttes, canyons, grasslands, and in/around petrified forests. I also highly recommend Buffalo Gap Ranch right on the trail head of the Mah Ha Dey Trail - each camp spot has its own corral for your horses or you can let them loose on the "range" area at the trail head, they also have corrals for guests with horses staying in the lodge and hitching posts in front of each room. LOVE that place. North Dakota Badlands - some of the best riding and views in the world (we do not work for anyone there or live out there, just been there many times because its great) |
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    Location: central IL | RedParrot~I'm copying your post for future reference. We're always in search of new adventures. We met some awesome folks while riding down in TX last month. The rancher was telling me about a beautiful spot to ride in ND, and of all places, Medora. In fact, he sent me a small article about the town that he'd clipped out of one of his "cowboy" magazines. You have really further my interest in making it a possible destination ride. Tks for the info. Share more, if you care. |
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   Location: Minnesota | traxarlo, You stated "so far the information that has been given hasn't been very accurate". To that point only a couple of camps had many mention and the condition of a camp is ones own opinion. I ask what was not accurate which you did not reply to. Say what you will but I have been at both camps and found both to be well operated - MY OPINION. |
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   Location: Minnesota | I have also been at TRNP Round Up camp which is the only horse camp in TRNP. You have to apply for the Camp via application for a drawing in March. Slim chance of getting the Camp as they receive hundreds of request. You can trailer into the Park and ride at will. I am told by friends in Medora that Buffalo Gap is full of oil field workers - - which has become a bg problem in Western ND. We'll be there for two weeks this year - 1 in the Park and one trailering in. Great place to ride. Love the rattlesnakes! |
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       Location: Northern Utah | MBI holds their training classes in Mendora every week. There are around a 100 men attending those classes each week, they basically fill any available motel rooms. The camping is usually not as big of a problem from the oil field workers. |
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    Location: central IL | I've encountered a black bear riding in southern CO but the idea of rattlesnakes~  |
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       Location: Northern Utah | Never found the rattlesnakes to be a problem. If you come across one. Give it a little room and minute and it will slither off into the grass someplace else. |
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    Location: central IL | Came across copperheads in southern MO. Tiny little things but worthy of respect and distance. Aside from bushwhacking through scrub oak riding offtrail in southern CO, the most "treacherous" obstacles I've ever encountered on the trail were the "jumping cholla" cacti in the Superstitions. Luckily, in the month of riding my steady trailhorse never brushed into one. I did while filming a clip for a classroom presentation, and they really do "jump" if you get close enough. OUCH! |
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   Location: Cherokee, Ia | I have camped a few times at Hay Creek Ranch by Nemo SD....great place..yes..the road is narrow coming in, but check with them because they were to get access to highway sometime, which would make it a pretty much straight, short shot into camp. As far as the badlands in SD. my daughter is out there this week...very..very hot...so early spring or fall might be better. It is beautiful, but watch out for sand fleas...we got them hiking there. I live in NW Iowa, and have been to the Black Hills a few times...well worth the trip. Last year, friends rode right up to Mount Rushmore...awesome ride...think they stayed @ Elk Haven. South Dakota is VERY horse friendly, and a great place to ride, no matter where you camp and stay ...French Creek, Custer, Elk Haven, Hay Creek and many others...have heard great things about all of these places from my horse friends. Like others have said, contact South Dakota tourism and you will find a lot of great places!....wave as you go thru Iowa!! Happy Trails!! (and, best to make sure your horse is legged up....lots of climbing! But absolutely fabulous!) |
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   Location: Cherokee, Ia | Oh...and the STURGIS BIKE RALLY is the 2nd week in August...so lots of motor cycle and trailer traffic on I 90 then, and all over the area at times....make sure you drive thru Needles Highway (vehicle only) lots of tunnels and tight curves, but beautiful drive! |
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 Location: South Dakota | I'm just going to throw my 2 cents in here. Over the last 18 years, I have stayed at French Creek (Custer State Park), Elk Haven, and Hay Creek. The French Creek trails are my favorites, but the state kept raising the fees so we decided to try other places. I was not impressed with Elk Haven. It is a former RV park. The sites are narrow and difficult to get into with a big trailer. When tied to the trailer, our horses had to stand on a step hill. The trails were okay. The showerhouse was a little "rough". There is a cafe on site which is nice.While getting into Hay Creek is a bit trying, we have never had an issue (24' trailer). I don't like roughing it, so we always get a cabin. You will not find better hosts than Doug and Jody. They add more to the camp every year. No, there aren't any marked trails, but you won't get lost. Plus, you're only 15 minutes from Deadwood. |
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| Riding horse to get out is an interesting thing, doesn't it? Diablo 3 Gold |
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   Location: Foothills of the Smokeys | will be at Broken Arrow next fri. would love to find more places to ride send me pm if you know of any good trails in area. I have rode to Harney Peak and all trailsfrom Brocken Arrow.Your e mail did not work.Coming from Tn. |
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      Location: Missouri | We just got back from a camping trip to Montana. On the way out, first of July, they opened the road thru Custer the day before we got there. It had been closed due to fires. Sounds like a lot of Custer was burnt. Be a good idea to check this out before making plans.
We came across the Bad Land in SD going and coming. First time we every went thru there with temps below 100. Going out it was in the 70's coming back it was in the 80's. I was pleasantly surprise. We usually loose at least one tire to the heat going thru that country.
Those of you that have ridden the Bad Lands in the winter. What is it like then? |
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Location: lodi , wi | We just got back at the end of July for our 4th trip out to the Black Hills. We have stayed at Hay Creek one year, 3 years at French Creek and this last time we stayed at Willow Creek and Iron Creek. Each one has its advantages. Willow Creek and Iron Creek are primitive so no elec and only water for horses. The trails were great and it was beautiful and not crowded. One has tie lines and the other corrals. It was very uncomfortable without air conditioning this year. French Creek has the elec and sewer and nice bath house. We enjoyed the trails, but I like the trails at Iron Creek the best. However, French Creek has the comfort so we are going back their in 2 weeks and you can ride to Blue Bell to eat and tie your horses up. We also rode at Hay Creek 4 years ago. Doug is very helpful and nice. The trails weren't rocky like Custer, but you don't need weed free hay. If you ride in Custer make sure your horses have shoes on. We like to try different place and found each has its good points. We did stop by Elk Haven and it was a little too crowded for us and our horses would have had to stand in mud. The new owner was very friendly and helpful. It looked like you could meet a lot people there. Whichever you choose you wont' go wrong . we are from Wi. and have stayed at several different places on the way out( aunt Bees, Cabelas, Hobby Horse, Wingmasters and Ashley arena. Just make sure you make reservations early. |
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       Location: Northern Utah | Bob, We need to hear about your ride over by Dillon MT |
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    Location: central IL | Those emoticons are not aimed at Painted Horse! They referred to a post that appeared in the wee hours of the morning by a "new member" d3forsale who keeps writing silly posts but in the end, is just hawking that diablo gold junk. The post disappearded, so Dave must've caught and deleted it again. Thanks to whoever got rid of the spammer. |
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  Location: md | Off topic ,I know. Ace, how is your horse recovering, and did you ever get a new horse? |
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    Location: central IL | Walkin, Tks for asking. I guess it's not too far off topic since it's horse related. That Diablo Gold spammer is what I consider off topic! My horse is hobbling around. The corrective shoe that he was fitted with at the onset has been lowered. He was fitted with a new and lower shoe. The shoes were to keep his full weight off the injured leg. Once all the scar tissue has set in, we'll see how well he can get around. I no longer have to wrap, hose nor do anything special at this point. I know he will never be sound, but at best, I'm hoping he can enjoy being a horse. He walks out to pasture, and I saw him put weight on both front legs and kick up his hind ones, even though it wasn't the highest kick ever. Oh, the horse shopping adventures! Now that has been very interesting, but not as good as the lady who insisted my filly was SOLD (to her) and that she was coming Saturday with her trailer. Umm, today is Tuesday, and somehow she must not have followed my directions since she still hasn't showed up. More to that story, but that's the short version. Thanks again for asking about Quiz. I'll try attaching a couple of pics of his orthopedic shoe! Think it's called a "pattern bar". 

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  Location: md | OM gosh. I feel so bad for both you and Quiz. Horse shopping can be frustrating. |
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Location: New York | It has been closed due to fire. Sounds like a lot of Custer were burned. Is a good idea, before planning to check it. |
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      Location: Missouri | Originally written by infoleather on 2012-08-29 2:27 AM
It has been closed due to fire. Sounds like a lot of Custer were burned. Is a good idea, before planning to check it.
I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over
I was only stating facts, and suggesting it would be a good idea to check out the damage before planning a trip to the area. Not upset at all. |
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   Location: Foothills of the Smokeys | Just left the Custer area a week ago. Camped at Broken Arrow. Custer State Park is fine. There is a burned area between Hot Springs and Custer City, but didn't affect our riding at all. |
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    Location: central IL | I'm jealous. Just a year ago we camped at Broken Arrow. No plans for fall camping yet. Actually, no horse to ride of my own anyway. Still looking. Glad you enjoyed the riding. |
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