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Location: Texas | I've searched archives some, but curious...
For those of you who have ran your LQ rig across the scales, what did it weigh? I'd be curious of trailer weight alone, but the total is fine too, just want to know trailer size, length / number of horses, and truck size.
Thinking about changing to an LQ, and have a 2001 F350 with the 7.3, and I'm rated to 20,000 total.....
I know that the LQ weights vary due to size, wood type etc. etc. but looking to just get rough ideas.
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Ours is a 04 SUNDOWNER 8010 3 horse with every option Sundowner offered in 04 and it is just over 9000lbs with both fresh water tanks full of water and ready to hit the road before adding horses. |
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Location: Snow Camp NC | 2000 f-450 - 03 hart 4 horse - loaded for camping and 2 horses 24,700# |
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Location: Valentine, NE | Chevy 4500 with 150 gal fuel right at 11,200. 4 horse Cimarron 12' LQ, gen, fuel, hay, all tack at 18,500. Total of 29,700. Have the axle splits also, but can't remember them. Yup, a little over... |
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Location: Northern Utah | My 2007 Logan with the 8' SW Platinum LQ package with 4 horse weighed 15,000lbs. I always figured it weighed about 8,5000 lbs empty, I would load 2.000 lbs in saddles, tack, camping gear, and water. Add another 4,000lb in horses. Include the 2006 F350 truck and I was just over the max GCWR of 23,000 lbs. 
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| Exiss 14' shortwall 4 horse, I normally only travel with 2 horses, completely loaded up for a weekend trip trailer weighs in around 15400 lbs. That includes 60 gallons extra water for the horses and hay. The pin weight is just under 4000lbs. |
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Location: Texas | Thanks for those who have replied so far. Amazing how quick the weight adds up. I bet more trucks are going down the road pulling more than suggested than the owners even realize.
I constantly suggest to one of our horse groups to go weigh their rig, so they KNOW what they have going on.
While I have a 20,000 (2001 F-350 with 7.3) pound combined rating, it makes me really consider what size trailer I could get that would keep me under that. |
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Location: North Carolina | Durn right the stuff adds up quick. I ran across the scales with 3 horses, three people, stuff for a week of camping in a Sundowner 3H 4 foot SW valulite pulled by a 8.1 liter dually. No LQ, No water tanks, just camping gear & food for all, we totaled 17,000 pounds. |
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Location: Illinois | 2012 Hart ,3 horse, 14 ft. shortwall. Trailer weight mt. 11,980lbs. With 2 mules and 14 bales of hay trailer weight is 14,880 lbs. Total weight 22,460 lbs. Note ,there was no h2o, tack, food, etc. in the trailer so adding 60 gal. h2o plus tack etc. total weight would probably be @23,250. |
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Location: Virginia | 2006 Cimarron, 10' LQ, 50 Gal. fresh water, 30 Gal. gas for Onan, 2 mules, a boatload of junk under mangers and tack room full. On the scales the trailer was 11,600. Combined with 2007 1 ton Duramax dually came to 23,200 and change. (Trailer is 25.5' on the floor, truck has aluminum flatbed.) |
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| dodge 3500, 16' bloomer 4 horse, cat scales fully loaded (with exception to 20 gal of water used and down 45 gal of fuel) weighs #30855 |
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Location: Penrose, Colorado | one thing that has been missed in this discussion is INSURANCE if you are in a wreck and overloaded it may be void and heaven help you if the DOT stops you. Our trailer and truck fully loaded weighs over 31,000 but we have it hooked to a 550 Ford and it is still a load in the hills, the trailer has disc brakes and that is a huge help in stopping. |
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Location: Western WA | 2005 Logan 3 horse/mid tack/9' LQ. 10,500 lbs before tack and horses, but including everything that "lives" in the trailer. |
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Location: Barnesville, Ga. | Last time I weighed I had a 03 350 srw 6liter lwb 4x4. 4horse exiss 14 short wall with slide, genset, hay rack, ramp, 4 horses, empty tanks coming home from a trip 2 adults and 2 kids. It weighed 23,560#'s. It has electric hydraulic disc brakes. |
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| The insurance is a huge thing if you had a wreck. I have a 4 horse 16'shortwall and 6' midtack tri axle and with the truck I usually weigh in between 48k and 50k with 3 horses but the lq is all hardwood no plywood or composites and granite counter tops which add up very quickly. |
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Location: Pataskala, Ohio | I have a 4 horse Lakota with 10 SW. Empty it weighs 8420. The heaviest I ever had it was about 14,000lbs. Had a 3800lbs Jeep in the back, 50 gallons of water and full black and gray tanks along with all the stuff you take on a two week vacation. Things improved once I dumped and got the water down to about 10 gallons. I pull all of this with a 2500HD and for the weight police, I never exceeded my max tire load. The way the trailer sits right now, winterized, full of propane and all the dishes and other things that will not freeze or spoil in side, it weighs about 8900 pounds. To go someplace all we have to add are clothes, food, a little water, and what or who we are taking in the back. |
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Location: Penrose, Colorado | For those of you that are guessing triler weight I found a chart from one of the Mfgs. that says you can figure 385---425 pounds ber box foot on an LQ ours fits in the lower part of the scale. |
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Location: western PA | I found a chart from one of the Mfgs. that says you can figure 385---425 pounds ber box foot on an LQ I don't think the charts are taking into account the width or height of a trailer which can greatly alter their weights. We have an Exiss three horse with a 4' full LQ. It weighs ~5613# empty. This works out to 312 lbs per lin foot. The same trailer in a two horse, almost 3' shorter, weighs 300# less. Our Sidekick which has a 13' LQ, a mid tack, and is also a three horse, weighs 9827# empty, which works out to be 289# per lin ft. Our trailers are 7' x7'. Trailers 8' wide and 7 1/2' high weigh considerably more, and may better conform to the chart. This is why it's difficult for one person to form an opinion based on the experiences of others. There are many variables involved in the weights of trailers, trucks and the livestock. They will include axle placements, trailer shapes and accessories, all of which will make their towing experiences, greatly varying from owner to owner.
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| Thats very true because my trailer ends up being a little over 700 lbs per foot and it is full width and 10 ft height which adds alot of weight |
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Location: western PA | Originally written by reiner531 on 2012-01-29 3:58 PM
Thats very true because my trailer ends up being a little over 700 lbs per foot and it is full width and 10 ft height which adds alot of weight Seriously ???? |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Originally written by gard on 2012-01-29 4:02 PM
Originally written by reiner531 on 2012-01-29 3:58 PM
Thats very true because my trailer ends up being a little over 700 lbs per foot and it is full width and 10 ft height which adds alot of weight Seriously ????
Well, if you're gonna get the stripper pole in...yeah, 10 feet is about right.
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Location: Western WA | I love this forum. You just never know where a thread is going to end up. Absolutely never a dull moment! |
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| That pole is a good idea. Know any good places to buy one?Trailer was completely custom which its 10ft that pole would really add some class |
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Location: western PA | Weren't they being shipped as standard equippment in the Blue Moon trailers? Great way to while away your spare time. |
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Location: North Carolina | Originally written by reiner531 on 2012-01-29 12:58 PM
Thats very true because my trailer ends up being a little over 700 lbs per foot and it is full width and 10 ft height which adds alot of weight Don't laugh ... I met a guy with a Sundowner trailer with a 10 foot or maybe 12 foot height. (I forget) was a special for his animals... He hauled CAMELS. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | These trailers are kinda TALL.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps52Rv84YG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atdQsXzV2Ws&feature=related |
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Location: Texas | 2001 F350 4x4 dually 4 door. Full fuel
9.5' Shadow Cruiser cabover camper. full water tank, 2 full propane, and all my "stuff"
Trails West Sierra 3 horse bumper pull, mangers, 100 gallons of water, 3 bales hay, 1 horse (1040 pounds) and tack
cat scale at truck stop: 19,1000
Both hubby and I had pre-guessed about 17,500
WEIGH YOUR RIGS FOLKS!!! Know what you are hauling down the road.
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Location: Central Arkansas | trot on....we did the Shadow Cruiser set up for almost a year when we decided we wanted to ride all the hard to get in and way off the beaten path kind of trails. I'm glad we did it because to have the same creature comforts, an LQ trailer wouldn't have fit. Tried it, and had to back over a mile in the dark because we couldn't fit over a little high sided bridge on a curve in the mountains! That was back in 91. Now with the internet , you basically can figure out if you fit without an issue BEFORE you're wedged in somewhere! |
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Location: Texas | Originally written by brushycreekranch on 2012-02-05 11:56 AM
trot on....we did the Shadow Cruiser set up for almost a year
We have had this one since 1995. We have loved the camper set up, as we indeed, could get to places an LQ would not have ever gotten in to. I am surprised by the weight, as it had weighed about that with 3 horses and a different trailer in 2001. So, I have got to put the rig on a diet!
Now days, where we go, LQ's get in. So, maybe we will make a change in the next few years.
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Location: Texas | Got a used LQ.
2001 Trails West 3H, mid tack (converted to mud room), 9' short wall. 28' total length on the floor. Its the Classic (single wall construction) . LQ not done in the heavy wood etc. I had tanks empty. Trailer had none of my "stuff" in it yet.
Weight= 8930
2001 F350, 4x4 dually 4 door.
Weight= 8320
Total 17,250
CAT scale. Many truck stops have them, and you can weigh the whole rig, go drop the trailer, weigh the truck.
I've said before, lots of 1 ton trucks pulling HUGE LQ trailers, that I would put money are over loaded |
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Location: Northern Utah | Back when my daughters were riding with me, And I tried to entice my wife to come along by providing some nicer creature comforts. I bought a 2007 Logan XT 4H LQ. That trailer loaded with my stuff, 4H ran about 15,000 lbs.
My 2006 F350, Trailer and family & horses crossed the scale at 23,000 lbs. Right at the max GCVW. I was slightly under on my front truck axle, 200 lbs over on my rear axle and under on the trailer axles. It did nothing to get my wife to come more often, So I sold it and now just sleep in an unfinished Gooseneck or set up a wall tent. I just need someplace to stay dry on a wet night. Current trailer is 13,000 lbs loaded with horses and gear. |
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Location: MI. | We have a scale a few miles from us and we are actually going to make a point before our next camping trip to get it weighed loaded. It is a three horse Featherlite 14 foot LQ 7'6" high and eight foot wide. We weighed the truck and it was around 7200/7400, can't quite remember. Hubby thinks it will be around fifteen, hmmmmm. Supposedly it is 9700 empty, we will see. 
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Location: Texas | Originally written by Gone on 2012-05-31 10:00 AM
We have a scale a few miles from us and we are actually going to make a point before our next camping trip to get it weighed loaded. It is a three horse Featherlite 14 foot LQ 7'6" high and eight foot wide. We weighed the truck and it was around 7200/7400, can't quite remember. Hubby thinks it will be around fifteen, hmmmmm. Supposedly it is 9700 empty, we will see.
I'd be curious to hear your results. With the 14' LQ and 8' wide..... I bet you will be surprised at what it weighs
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Location: high desert, CA. | 2005 Dodge Ram, quad cab, long bed srw, 3500, 4 horse Trails West w/short LQ, and fuel/water/4 small horses, (we have Arabs and had a Peruvian Paso), weight.......23,444!!!!!WOW! THAT was an eye opener! Tag on trailer said, 11,900 on empty trailer, so all that "stuff", and horses? MINUS the passengers? WOW! |
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Location: high desert, CA. | OOOPS....trailer says 9980, not 11,900 |
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Location: Brooksville, Fl | '08 Chevy Crew Cab 3500. Lakota 3H/12 ft LQ w/slide (27 ft on floor). Two horses and a full black water tank as we were on our way home. 22800 on the CAT scale. Which is very close to my guess and above the hubby's guess. |
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Location: Nebraska | Just recently weighed my 2 horse 4 Star trailer at the grain elevator after a weekender was installed. In it I had a saddle, some tack and a few other camping items, pots and pans etc. It's a 4 foot short wall 14' on the floor. I did not have any water in it and it weighed in at 4960 LBS. This is a simple weekender, with a cowboy shower and no air. I think that the weekender only increased the weight by about 800 LBS. I am told that the air conditioner I plan to add will weigh another 100 LBS.
This trailer is small, but soooo easy to manage.
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Location: North of Detroit, MI | Originally written by gard on 2012-01-29 4:55 PM I found a chart from one of the Mfgs. that says you can figure 385---425 pounds ber box foot on an LQ I don't think the charts are taking into account the width or height of a trailer which can greatly alter their weights. We have an Exiss three horse with a 4' full LQ. It weighs ~5613# empty. This works out to 312 lbs per lin foot. The same trailer in a two horse, almost 3' shorter, weighs 300# less. Our Sidekick which has a 13' LQ, a mid tack, and is also a three horse, weighs 9827# empty, which works out to be 289# per lin ft. Our trailers are 7' x7'. Trailers 8' wide and 7 1/2' high weigh considerably more, and may better conform to the chart. This is why it's difficult for one person to form an opinion based on the experiences of others. There are many variables involved in the weights of trailers, trucks and the livestock. They will include axle placements, trailer shapes and accessories, all of which will make their towing experiences, greatly varying from owner to owner. It is MY Understanding that the weight per foot is strictly for the LQ section of the trailer; not the entire trailer. It is ALSO my understanding that each interior company has their own standard... which is why that chart might be very helpful. |
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what's your rig / LQ weigh?
