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| Im looking at a trailer that is a 4 horse with a 17' shortwall and haypod. Your best guess is needed. Can i pull it safely with a 2011 Chevy 1 ton crew cab dually? I dont know the weight on it. The owner said he has pulled with a 1 ton but also has a 2 1/2 ton. Best guess please |
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Location: Penrose, Colorado | we have a trailer with about the same dimensions and slideouts, when it is on our 2010 Dodge dually it overloaded to the point that we only take that truck on short hauls the rest of the time we pull it with a 550 Ford. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by barsix on 2012-01-20 4:06 PM Im looking at a trailer that is a 4 horse with a 17' shortwall and haypod. Your best guess is needed. Can i pull it safely with a 2011 Chevy 1 ton crew cab dually? I dont know the weight on it. The owner said he has pulled with a 1 ton but also has a 2 1/2 ton. Best guess please No... |
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Location: Rayne, LA | I have a 40ft 3 horse with 17 sw and slide and pull it with a 2002 7.3 F350 and it is "OK" at best on flat land,but white knuckle driving in the mountains. I recently bought a single back axle Peterbilt to pull it. Pullig power was a secondary issue, braking was really scary when coming down a steep climb and you can't get good riding unless you "GIT TO THE MOUNTAINS" Good Luck and Happy Trails |
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| Call the manufacturer, they should be able to give you the weights. Then you wll know what you ll need to pull it. |
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| tried that. they need VIN # and seller will not give it to me. |
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| Not sure why a seller would not give it to you but I got curious and looked at a couple 16 to 17' trailers that are 4 horse. To my surprise there are a couple that seem to weigh in around 10,000 lbs and have a 16000 gvwr. If you really like the trailer I would try to get the pin and dry weight to be sure. Maybe even a search for the current model will give you some ideas as to the weight. Some one on here may even have the same trailer and may be able to help. |
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Location: Pataskala, Ohio | Ask the seller to call the manufacture and get the weights. If they want to sell they should at least do that. |
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| I bet the manufacturer will only know the weight before LQ. And that was probably pushing 8-9,000. I'd be leery of a seller that wouldn't give me the VIN by the way. There's nothing you can do with it that can hurt him that I know of. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by barsix on 2012-01-20 4:06 PM Im looking at a trailer that is a 4 horse with a 17' shortwall and haypod. Your best guess is needed. Can i pull it safely with a 2011 Chevy 1 ton crew cab dually? I dont know the weight on it. The owner said he has pulled with a 1 ton but also has a 2 1/2 ton. Best guess please What's the GVWR weight stamped on the serial number tag on this trailer? What make and model trailer is this? Two axle or three axle? The pin weight will be the main concern when all tanks are full, loaded with horses and gear. |
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Location: michigan | When in doubt..don't |
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Location: Illinois | OK, sorry the one thing that really caught me in this thread was the seller not wanting to give you the vin #. To me that is a big red flag that the seller is hiding something about the trucks past, thinking maybe accident? Anyway, that would be enough to make me look for another vehicle even if it can pull the trailer. Best of luck finding the right truck for your new trailer. |
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Location: North Carolina | If the seller of the trailer won't give you the VIN number, you can't check it for a valid title. You won't be abe to get a loan with it as collateral. There is some doubt about the veracity of the seller in my mind. Be very aware in your dealings with this person. |
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Location: North Carolina | Further reply ... to the original question. You can pull this trailer with a one ton truck, but I would advise against it. 4 horse with 17' foot short wall is a heavy trailer if you have 4 horses. if you only have two horses ... maybe. with a never on 3 horses... figuring a horse at 1000 pounds each. My 15.2 fat boy weighs 1200 says the scale at the last endurance ride. |
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Location: Ohio | You really have not given enough information to make a judgement. The weight of the trailer is the first big one. Second, the 3500 comes with different engines and rear differentials that make a difference. Not all 3500's are created equal. Length is not the issue, it is weight and how much your truck is rated for. |
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Location: North Carolina | Originally written by Goz63 on 2012-01-22 7:25 AM
You really have not given enough information to make a judgement. The weight of the trailer is the first big one. Second, the 3500 comes with different engines and rear differentials that make a difference. Not all 3500's are created equal. Length is not the issue, it is weight and how much your truck is rated for.
Hi Goz ... Welcome to the forum. The 17 feet sure makes a difference. OP said a 17 foot shortwall. Reading between the lines, the LQ of this trailer is part of the 1% of horse trailers. That means a lot of weight on the truck hitch and a lot of trailer weight alone. Most trailers of that size are towed with class 5 or better trucks. His 3500 is a lightweight to that trailer no matter the available drive trains. |
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Location: Vermont | Depending on how YOUR truck was configured...these are the maximum configurations available for the 2011 Chevrolet 350
0GVWR (lbs.) 13,000
Payload, mfr. max claim (lbs.) 5,122 (6,635 with 6.0-liter gasoline regular cab long bed dually)
Tow capacity, mfr. claim (lbs.) 17,000 (receiver hitch); 21,100 (5th-wheel/gooseneck)
Edited by PaulChristenson 2012-01-23 10:24 PM
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