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Location: Isanti MN | I am amazed on how many people do NOT pull the mats out after each use and clean the trailer floor they spend thousands on a trailer and a horse and do not maintain the trailer after all the money they invested....they do not know what urine does to the floor aluminum, steel and wood is all going to be affected, I have seen floors that have pin holes and mush floors from urine! I bought a new trailer this spring, the first thing I did was protect it, first was to install WERM Flooring, I live in MN and was not able to drive to Oklahoma 1250 miles one way at 4 bucks a gallon for diesel so I found a dealer in MN now!!!!:) I did get the werm installed and it is sooooo nice and easy to clean just clean out shavings and rinse with hose no more pulling those mats! (By the way anyone interested in purchasing brand new mats for 3 horse cimarron slant, tack in back 2010)? I suggest if you never pulled your mats, do it and if you need WERM Installed MN Dealer is great to deal with! Go to wermflooring.com and dealers you will find the contact information. Happy Trails! |
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Location: Northern Utah | Pardon me, but this sounds like an advertizement. From somebody who is new and has had very limited posts. If in reality you are a dealer and looking for business ( and in todays ecconomy we are all trying to be creative to generate business) Buy an add on this website or at least admit your purpose. As far as trailer floors, Mine is aluminum planks, Coated with a spray in bed liner type of product. The planks are spaced so that any water can drain down between the planks. Then mats are placed on top. Then I put shavings on top of the mats. I sweep out periodically and put in new shavings and I pull the mats probably twice a year and hose out my trailer with high pressure hose. I'm not seeing ANY signs of corrosion in my floor. So I don't support your theory of needing to clean after every trip. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by Painted Horse on 2011-07-15 12:26 PM Pardon me, but this sounds like an advertizement. From somebody who is new and has had very limited posts. If in reality you are a dealer and looking for business ( and in todays ecconomy we are all trying to be creative to generate business) Buy an add on this website or at least admit your purpose. As far as trailer floors, Mine is aluminum planks, Coated with a spray in bed liner type of product. The planks are spaced so that any water can drain down between the planks. Then mats are placed on top. Then I put shavings on top of the mats. I sweep out periodically and put in new shavings and I pull the mats probably twice a year and hose out my trailer with high pressure hose. I'm not seeing ANY signs of corrosion in my floor. So I don't support your theory of needing to clean after every trip. An old thread from earlier this year... http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=15569 Kinda makes you wonder since the WERM dealer is in the same city as "Cutternbuck"... |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | I went to the Werm website, then Google mapped it. The dealer can't be more than 2 miles from me. Like me, it's an Isanti phone # but is a St. Francis mailing address. The zip is really 55070 |
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Location: TN | I guess someone thinks we're all naive enough to fall for an unpaid for ad. |
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Location: Austin, TX | Wow! check out the piranha in this thread. Some of us love the WERM flooring, too. You made some valid comments. There will never be 100% agreement. Stay engaged and post with no fear. Most of us are not as good as we could be with regard to equipment maintenance or preventive maintenance. There are better ways to market a business or sell equipment, if this is the case. There are other options offered by Horse Trailer World, too. Don't be hatin'
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| So, pointing out the truth is now labeled "HATING"? |
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Location: TN | Apparently it is! I have absolutely nothing against WERM flooring. It's a great option that saves time, resources, and people's backs. My next trailer will have it. I do, however, object to unpaid advertising in a forum that is supposed to be an exchange of information between people who are not trying to sell each other things. I would assume paid advertising is what keeps this website up and running. Websites are not free and this one is very well done. Someone pays for that! What about the other business owners who play by the rules and pay for advertising but do not solicit through the forums? I can think of plenty of them and would be more likely to contact them rather than someone who thinks they are being sneaky and getting something for nothing. If the original poster was so thrilled with his WERM installer, why not mention them by name and make a honest recommendation, rather than a post that is a poorly disguised advertisement?
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Location: Central Arkansas | I agree that WERM is the next best thing since sliced bread. My 2008 4 STAR was done in OKC thru 4 Star. My 05 Bloomer was done 3 years ago by Select Trailers of TN. As far as the OP goes, I have not researched the person, nor do I have time to. But, I do know that WERM is the greatest investment that you can do for your trailer floor. |
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Location: Northern Utah | Most of us don't read all the rules for any of the websites that we utilize. My calling the OP post an advertizement, was basically ment to bring it into the open. Some folks try to be deceptive, some just don't know the rules. We all know that online marketing has over taken yellow page ads and many other forms of traditional advertising. Social media is almost a neccessity in some form. Learning how to utilize todays social media to advertize a persons business is challenge. I have nothing against WERM or against an individual that operates a business installling ANY product for the horse industry. I encourage the OP to learn from his mistake and come back and have a good discussion about the product. If he is a dealer for the product. Great. Speak with knowlege about the product and discuss it's merits. But don't pretend to be a unsolicited reccommendation. There are ways to have a discussion where your business is in the open and everybody knows that. Look at the many trailer dealers that discuss trailer features, service etc and are very helpfull in adding value to the many discussions on this board. Then there are the few that appear to be trying to sneek an advertizement in. What ever the OP intent was. They are welcome to continue being members, contributing to discussions. To clarify what they ment. But if they sound like they are reading an ad to me, I'm going to call spam on them. |
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| I have to agree with you,Painted Horse.This was what struck me in the opening lines of the post,however: "I am amazed on how many people do NOT pull the mats out after each use and clean the trailer floor they spend thousands on a trailer and a horse and do not maintain the trailer after all the money they invested....they do not know what urine does to the floor aluminum, steel and wood is all going to be affected, I have seen floors that have pin holes and mush floors from urine!" Before I read on and thought it could be an ad or a dealer's post,my first thought to the person was "Well,DUH,after trying it a time or two,ask a few WOMEN why they don't pull the mats out after each use,ace." Not everybody has the strength of Samson to undertake a feat like that,especially if you're on your own.I'm not,but,I once was,and,I can tell you that the first time I tried wrestling them out and putting them back in the trailer without help was the LAST.What's wrong with just lifting your mats up if your horse or horses have urinated in the trailer and hosing out beneath them? If you have a wood floor,slide brooms or hay fork handles under the mats to let them dry out better.There are ways to present something without jumping people's case and making them feel like idiots for not doing it.I always had a good reason: I couldn't manage it! PS: not everyone can afford to pay for WERM flooring,either,as a sidenote.Just sayin. |
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| I use large C Clamps on my mats as handles. It makes the job a little more manageable. I also duct tape the seams when 1st put them back in after cleaning. Usually last 4 or 5 trips. It helps keep the urine on top of mats, gives the shaving more time to soak it up before it can get underneath. |
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Location: Kansas | I tried the C clamps but they slip on me. I stole another hint and probably off this board. Drill a large enough hole (2 at each end) to fit the ends of hay hooks and use those to move mats around. I do this for my stalls. For my trailer I bought the Equifoam mats and they only weigh 28# for a 2 x 8 sheet. Better cushioning, IMO, and way easier to pull out to clean trailer. |
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Location: Vermont | VICE GRIPS are the ultimate tool for moving mats...
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | I have to agree about the original post. It sounds very much like the opening line for oxyclean or some other late night paid advertising spot. I wholeheartedly agree that bedliner, be it WERM, duplicolor, or any other brand (with CORRECT preparation and application), is one of the best things you can do for your trailer; new or old..
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| I'll just come out & admit that: at my age,my back and strength can't handle trailer mats with C grips or anything else ! I just have to rinse underneath them and go on,but short of having a WERM flooring,I do intend to follow Gard's recommendations and do my own version with Duplicolor. |
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Location: White Pine, TN | To clarify a bit, WERM is a lot more than a protective coating. It replaces the mats entirely. We've used WERM several times and never had any unhappy customers. Yes, it's not inexpensive. |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by cutter99 on 2011-07-18 6:10 AM Apparently it is! I have absolutely nothing against WERM flooring. It's a great option that saves time, resources, and people's backs. My next trailer will have it. I have something against WERM... ...there is nobody in the New England area doing it... |
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Location: western PA | If the history of WERM owners is accessed within this forum, it is noted that not all owners are satisified with the "softness" of the product. Many have installed conventional mats over the WERM, in an effort to provide a more giving surface. |
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Location: Isanti MN | Didn't mean to advertise just thought it would be a good idea pull mats and see your floor...as you see new to this site. |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by Cutternbuck on 2011-07-23 11:00 AM Didn't mean to advertise just thought it would be a good idea pull mats and see your floor...as you see new to this site. Welcome to the Horse Trailer Forum...Dave will love to talk advertising options with you... |
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Location: NY | OK cutrterncuck it is in your court what is it a business or not????? tell the true people here like the true |
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| Originally written by tobruk on 2011-07-19 7:21 PM
To clarify a bit, WERM is a lot more than a protective coating. It replaces the mats entirely. We've used WERM several times and never had any unhappy customers. Yes, it's not inexpensive. I know what WERM product is,I'm sure it is very nice,but I can't do it.I have 3 trailers and no can do. |
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| How is WERM different from something like RhinoLining? or is it more like Rumbar? |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by burdfour on 2011-07-26 9:08 PM
How is WERM different from something like RhinoLining? or is it more like Rumbar? http://www.selecttrailer.com/WERM.html Here's how it's done..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YfvKOszr0 |
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