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Location: Bridgeport,wv and Gaffney,sc | What yr did they start putting alum floors in their trailers? I called about one and said it was wood |
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Location: Ohio | F-I-L has a 97 and it has Aluminum floors. |
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| 4 Star has never used wood floors. You must have your trailer brands turned around |
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Location: Bridgeport,wv and Gaffney,sc | I must of misunderstood the dealer because i swore he said it had wood floors because he had 2 4 stars i was looking at |
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Location: Turbotville, PA | Barrel Racer I have noticed lots of posts the past few days on here from you. What type of trailer are you looking for??? I may be able to help you out if you are willing to drive to central PA.PaulTreas Horse Trailer Sales570-649-6968 |
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Location: Bridgeport,wv and Gaffney,sc | I will give u a call in the morning paul. i was lookin to drive texas so pa isnt that bad |
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| I bet he said WERM floors. That's standard in most 4Stars. |
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Location: Lincoln, NE | What is a WERM floor? How good are Rumber floors? |
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| I don't have either,so,more experienced posters will have to answer you with specifics.WERM is short for" We Eliminate Rubber Mats" and is a brand-specific padded coating over a trailer floor.Rumber is rubberized lumber which you probably already know. |
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Location: Alabama | I have a 93 and its ALUM |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by flatlandfilly on 2011-01-05 10:36 PM
What is a WERM floor? How good are Rumber floors? We got a 4 Star, 6 horse head to head with the WERM floor... NO MORE PULLING MATS!!. Come home from the show and unload the horses, sweep out loose hay, hit it with the leave blower and rinse if needed.....!!! DONE!! The RUMBER floors I've seen tend to be a bit slick.... Nothing slick about the WERM floor, that why we blow it out with the leaf blower... http://www.wermflooring.com/locate_dealer.iml http://www.wermflooring.com/index.iml |
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Location: rapid city sd | we have an 05 6 horse 4Star slant load werm floor. Too slick and not enough cushion. Just put a set of mats over top and its great |
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Location: Central Arkansas | We have a 4 Star and a Bloomer with the WERM floor. We have had it put in our last 6 trailers. We absolutely swear by it! Best thing since sliced bread! |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by whitewood on 2011-01-10 8:59 PM
we have an 05 6 horse 4Star slant load werm floor. Too slick and not enough cushion. Just put a set of mats over top and its great Do you use any bedding in the trailer? |
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Location: Central Arkansas | Yes. We use shavings on every trip. Pick the trailer after every use. Strip them totally out in between long trips. Trailers are parked at home under roof. The WERM floor is the absolute best for sanitizing between different loads. |
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Location: Coconut Creek, FL | My first 2 trailers had rumber floors and they were fantastic! Not slick at all - and the floors looked great after 9 years of heavy use. No mats and very thick padding for the horses. I wish my current trailer had them as well. They come with lifetime warranty - never need to replace |
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Location: ohio | We have a 2002 4Star 2 horse bumper pull and a 2004 4Star 3 horse with LQ and they both have the WERM flooring. They have enough roughness that there are no slips. But we do use shavings for the comfort of the horses. Always hated trying to pull those rubber mats into place on old wooden floors after removing them each trip just to clean the floor! |
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Location: West TN | Has anyone ever had their aluminum floor removed in the horse area and replaced with the WERM? I have a Hart and the floor in the horse area is not in the best condition. I question the integrity of this area in the years to come. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | The WERM floor is poured over top of the aluminum floor. Theres no removing your aluminum floor without going back with the same aluminum extruded planks, at that time you could install the WERM material over the new aluminum. Being as you're in west Tn. you might give R.T. Smith a call. ( http://www.selecttrailer.com/ )Take your clean trailer, less the mats and other horse related items to him and they'll tell you what's best for your Hart trailer. They can etch and make the necessary repairs to your aluminum floor and install the WERM at that time. They are factory authorized WERM floor dealers/installers.... http://www.selecttrailer.com/WERM.html |
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Location: Central Arkansas | I can personally recommend Select Trailers service department. They have installed WERM in several of my LQ years without any issues at all. They are very good to do business with no matter what brand of trailer you are pulling! |
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Location: West TN | Thanks for the advice! I will be looking into this in the spring. |
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Location: Lincoln, NE | retento -
You answered my question about WERM flooring that WERM's web site did not. I had wondered if the WERM were structurally as sound as wood or aluminum. Guess if WERM is put ON TOP of an aluminum floor it doesn't matter. Can WERM be put on top of wood flooring?
What about RUMBER? Does it have to be put on top of aluminum or wood?
Thanks all for all the excellent information, |
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Location: northeast Texas | Okay I have what is probably a dumb question, but, if you install the WERM flooring, how do you then ever check the integrity of the aluminum floor, like the support, welds, etc? Does the fact that the WERM stops any and all corrosion negate the need to check the flooring for weld repair, etc? Does what I am asking make any sense? |
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| Yes, WERM can be installed over a wood floor. Plywood is first installed and then the WERM applied, although I have heard that this procedure does not result in the quality of the WERM over aluminum. Rumber is a replacement for wood or aluminum and not put over wood or aluminum. It is my understanding that rumber does not have the tensile strength (bending moment too great) to be a replacement for a wood or aluminum floor in an existing trailer, as the cross members on these existing trailers are spaced too far apart. The installation of rumber on an existing trailer with a wood floor would required additional cross members to be safe. Gard and some of the other guys will also respond. |
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Location: Minnesota | WERM flooring is installed as wet product and troweled into a flat surface. It adherees to the floor surface like a glue or paint, but is about 3/8 to 1/2 inch thick. It becomes the floor and is imprenritable (sp). Urine and other moisture cannot penetrate, so thus the aluminum cannot corrode. |
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Location: Tenn/Ala. | Basically WERM is a permanently installed rubber floor mat. It is bonded to the "subfloor" which has been said is usually aluminum. It has no more structural value than regular rubber mats, and thus is not the cure-all to a damaged aluminum floor. I personally would not WERM over my wood floor. We do recommend it for most other applications.
Rumber is the name of the company, which makes many products. The most common floor material is truly a tongue & groove 2"x6" board. Looks like wood, just black and is made of a rubber composite. It has structural strength, but has very specific support requirements as has been noted earlier here. Great product.
Both of these are great products- but are very different in use. For some reason right after one name pops up, the other comes along right behind it and the confusion atarts. WERM can be installed in most trailers in place of the mats. Rumber generally needs to be installed during construction of the trailer, and many folks use it without mats.
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Location: Tenn/Ala. | Originally written by CTRider on 2011-01-13 11:12 AM
Okay I have what is probably a dumb question, but, if you install the WERM flooring, how do you then ever check the integrity of the aluminum floor, like the support, welds, etc? Does the fact that the WERM stops any and all corrosion negate the need to check the flooring for weld repair, etc? Does what I am asking make any sense? Typically, most welds involving the floor are under the floor. So WERM doesn't really get into the way of that aspect. And yes- it is bonded to the aluminum, so corrosion is not a factor there. But remember, the urine still has to go somewhere (shavings, drain holes, puddles, etc.) so be aware and plan accordingly. |
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Location: western PA | Originally written by CTRider on 2011-01-13 12:12 PM Okay I have what is probably a dumb question, but, if you install the WERM flooring, how do you then ever check the integrity of the aluminum floor? Does the fact that the WERM stops any and all corrosion negate the need to check the flooring for weld repair, etc? Actually the WERM will not stop active corrosion. That has to be dealt with before the product is instaled. It will however, help prevent the floor's top surface from starting any corrosion. This assumes the WERM's surface hasn't failed and delaminated from the flooring. This happens occasionaly, and allows the urine to enter the cavity between the flooring and WERM product. This provides an excellent breeding ground for corrosion. It behooves the owner of a WERM covered floor to regularly inspect it for any delaminations, tears or holes. Any that develop can be repaired and the flooring can be made again, intact. |
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