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| I am trying to compare which 7' wide (2005 or newer) trailer has the roomiest (diagonal stall measurement) stalls and longest floor lengths. Would the stall measurements be the same for a bumper pull vs a gooseneck? Can anyone tell me what the measurements are? The trailers that I am considering are: 4 Star, Cimmaron, Elite, Featherlite, Hart, Sundowner Thanks so much. Kim |
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| You may be able to find out what you need to know by doing a little researce on the company web sites. They may list the following:
Width of stalls usually 38"to 42", Width of trailer Usually 6'8' to 7'
(all are called 7 wide)and the Offset gives you the angle. To find the Offset look for the length of the wall where the rear tack is. This will usuallt be 48" to 54". The larger the numbers are the more area you will have in your stalls. |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Originally written by kahuck1a on 2010-11-01 7:06 AM I am trying to compare which 7' wide (2005 or newer) trailer has the roomiest (diagonal stall measurement) stalls and longest floor lengths. Would the stall measurements be the same for a bumper pull vs a gooseneck? Can anyone tell me what the measurements are? The trailers that I am considering are: 4 Star, Cimmaron, Elite, Featherlite, Hart, Sundowner Thanks so much. Kim This going to be something you will have to measure EACH trailer to find out for sure. Based on standard models on the list you have above my opinion they will fall in this order with the largest first. Fetherlite, Sundowner, Elite - Cimmaron, Hart and 4 Star being the smallest. (all on base models) There is a few larger 4 stars out there but most of them are based on 36.5" stall. Different brands will have different measurements. Bumper pull and gooseneck will have the same box and stall size. The fastest way to measure (in my opinion and works for me) is measure the floor in the horse compartment on the short side on simular type trailers (2, 3 or 4 horse)and the longer box will have the largest stalls. I have used most of the trailers you have listed and we own LARGE quarter and paint horses and the only trailer we use that was a tight fit was the 4 Star base model trailer. It was smaller than the S&H 3 horse steel trailer we have. |
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| kahuckl1a, Like HTB says, the trailers will vary, especially with custom manufacturers like Elite, Hart and 4 Star. The only sure way is to measure the width and the diagonal, or call up the manufacturer and give them the VIN and ask for the specs. Strangely enough, it's a couple of mid and low end trailers that seem to have the biggest standard stalls, Trails West and Logan. Featherlite makes a standard factory "big horse" trailer. |
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Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain... | On everyone's standard "7 wide" models, they will all give you real close to the same stall space. Sundowner will have 42" stalls, but they are on an 81" chassis. The rest have an 84" chassis available and will all have stall measurements from 39"- 40". All will call them a 10' stall using the measurement diagonally from rear corner to front corner. |
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Location: Zionsville, Indiana | Many of us who sell to clients with larger horses, for instance the dressage, eventing, hunter & jumper worlds, add length to the trailer to make the slant stalls bigger. For instance, we have a 7' wide three horse LQ that we added 4" per stall, to make each stall 42" on the sidewall. The slant angle stays the same, but there is more width between the dividers, and more length when you measure from the front corner to the rear corner. |
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| Hi figero, I looked at 4 stars website. The two horse BP slant shows a tack area of 48" with stalls widths of 39 1/2". How do I do the figure out the diagonal stall angle from that? Thanks, Kim |
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Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain... | Figero - Not trying to step on your toes, just figured since I could answer.... A squared + B squared = C squared A == 48 + 39.5 = 87.5" Rear tack + stall squared = 7656.25 B == Interior width app 81.5" squared = 6642.25 C == Equals 14298.5 square root = 119.57 119.57" = diagonal length
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Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain... | They are probably figuring 82" inside measurement which changes it to 119.91" on the diagonal. |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Originally written by kahuck1a on 2010-11-01 3:30 PM Hi figero, I looked at 4 stars website. The two horse BP slant shows a tack area of 48" with stalls widths of 39 1/2". How do I do the figure out the diagonal stall angle from that? Thanks, Kim Just woundering why you need to get the measurement on the diagonal angle of the stall???? Like I stated above we have all LARGE horses and the only issues we have ever had is in the 4 Star standard model WIDTH in the stall, not front to rear just side to side. Our horse range anywhere from 14.2 (1200lbs) all the way to 17.1 (1460lbs) and everywhere in between 14 total! |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Originally written by Tresvolte on 2010-11-01 3:44 PM Figero - Not trying to step on your toes, just figured since I could answer.... A squared + B squared = C squared A == 48 + 39.5 = 87.5" Rear tack + stall squared = 7656.25 B == Interior width app 81.5" squared = 6642.25 C == Equals 14298.5 square root = 119.57 119.57" = diagonal length WOW, now I'm all confused.. Sure wish I could do numbers like that..... 1+1= well I will leave them to you.... |
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| Thanks so much for your help Tresvolte and Figero! Whew. I haven't had to do that kind of math in a while. Kim |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by hogtownboss on 2010-11-01 5:25 PM Originally written by kahuck1a on 2010-11-01 3:30 PM Hi figero, I looked at 4 stars website. The two horse BP slant shows a tack area of 48" with stalls widths of 39 1/2". How do I do the figure out the diagonal stall angle from that? Thanks, Kim Just woundering why you need to get the measurement on the diagonal angle of the stall???? Like I stated above we have all LARGE horses and the only issues we have ever had is in the 4 Star standard model WIDTH in the stall, not front to rear just side to side. Our horse range anywhere from 14.2 (1200lbs) all the way to 17.1 (1460lbs) and everywhere in between 14 total! You forgot that drafts seem to START at 17 and keep going UP in both height AND WEIGHT... |
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| Hogtownboss asked...Just woundering why you need to get the measurement on the diagonal angle of the stall???? Like I stated above we have all LARGE horses and the only issues we have ever had is in the 4 Star standard model WIDTH in the stall, not front to rear just side to side. Our horse range anywhere from 14.2 (1200lbs) all the way to 17.1 (1460lbs) and everywhere in between 14 total?....... The difference between a 48 " and 54" will give you a 6 1/2" longer divider and a longer angle front right to rear left. This will also narrow your center width measurment a little. Manufacturers will use longer offsets so they don't need collapsable divider.
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Location: Decatur, Texas | You forgot that drafts seem to START at 17 and keep going UP in both height AND WEIGHT... Sorry, my bad, I forgot about the "big guys", most of them need custom built trailers or BIG HORSE MODELS any way. Not something that can be found just anywhere. I didn't know she had drafts, thats why I posted about my larger ones. |
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Location: Zionsville, Indiana | khuck1a - Silverlite |
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by hogtownboss on 2010-11-02 1:27 PM You forgot that drafts seem to START at 17 and keep going UP in both height AND WEIGHT... Sorry, my bad, I forgot about the "big guys", most of them need custom built trailers or BIG HORSE MODELS any way. Not something that can be found just anywhere. I didn't know she had drafts, thats why I posted about my larger ones. The OP has NEVER stated what horses they have or WHY they are looking for the largest slant stalls...I just made sure we didn't forget the big guys in the mix...Wouldn't be a hoot if they had MINIs... |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Yeap that would be funny..... Or could be needed to haul a cow too. Hauled our cow to the vet this summer in ours. Talk about getting looks, pulling up in a LQ trailer and unloading a 2500lb black angus with a halter and lead rope out of a fancy trailer. Talk about looking like city slickers...
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Location: Vermont | Originally written by hogtownboss on 2010-11-02 4:46 PM Yeap that would be funny..... Or could be needed to haul a cow too. Hauled our cow to the vet this summer in ours. Talk about getting looks, pulling up in a LQ trailer and unloading a 2500lb black angus with a halter and lead rope out of a fancy trailer. Talk about looking like city slickers... We want pictures... |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | I try and that one tonight, we changed computers and I have pictures everywhere. Here is one of him and the better half playing around so you can get an idea of how "little" he is. The better half is 5'4" |
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Location: central sierra nevada foothills | Nope, not a city slicker, that's called hauling your "bull" in style! LOL!!!! Loved it, thanks for sharing. You got pics of that, I would love to see them! |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Still trying to find the trailer picture, having to go thru 3 different computers. I did find a good picture of him about a week old, he is a rescue baby and was on the bottle for 10 months. The bottom other is from this summer when the vet said he need a jenny graig diet. He is just under 3000lbs there, now he is around 2500lbs |
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