1500HD VS 2500HD
3day
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2010-01-11 5:03 PM (#115129)
Subject: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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Is there much of a difference b/t the 1500HD and 2500HD? I found out after the fact that the 2500HD is really a SW 1 ton and the 1500HD is a 3/4 ton. I know the frame is the same and the brakes are a bit lighter in the 1500HD, also the axle ratio. I have a 2500HD, 6L, 4.10 axle. I was looking at a 1500HD, but thought it would not be strong enough for the trailer I just bought. I have an 04 Sundowner 777 w/4' DR, weight is about 3500lbs. I know I probably have too much truck for the trailer, but am hoping that there really is not much of a difference to worry about, mainly gas wise. Thanks for the input.
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Gone
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2010-01-11 5:33 PM (#115131 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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The 2500 HD is not the same as a 1 ton.

 

Our srw 1 ton has more leaf springs than a 2500 HD....I looked



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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-01-11 5:40 PM (#115132 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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3day, You did good on the 2500.  Don't have any buyers regrets.  I have pulled with 1/2 tons but they are not really made to do job that the 3/4 tons are made to do.  It's not just the brakes, it's axles, suspension and other stuff. (The guys will chime in with the complete technical story) With the lower geared trucks, I've found that I do just fine if I just drive slower.  For me, it's an easy hands down.  I'd rather have the bettter tow rig and just drive slower!
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brew26
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2010-01-12 9:34 AM (#115151 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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If a 3/4 ton is like a 1 ton (which its not) what is the point of a 1 ton. I think you need to do a little better homework. I woule keep your 3/4 ton cause even if you have to much pickup for your trailer (which I don't think there's really such a thing) its better than not having enough.
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Painted Horse
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2010-01-12 9:52 AM (#115157 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD



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First off, There is not that much difference in fuel mileage.

If you put the 6.0L in the 1500 you will get about the same mileage.

If you go with the smaller engine, Then your truck is reving higher in the power band to pull the load and your mileage drops.  And you already know that you are pushing your weights for brakes and axles.

Put a water tank, some bales of hay in the bed of the truck, Fill the trailer with horses and you will be more like 7000 to 8000lbs.

I think you will be much happier in the long run with the 2500 than trying to tow with a 1500

 

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-01-12 11:14 AM (#115162 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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Originally written by 3day on 2010-01-11 6:03 PM

Is there much of a difference b/t the 1500HD and 2500HD? I found out after the fact that the 2500HD is really a SW 1 ton and the 1500HD is a 3/4 ton. I know the frame is the same and the brakes are a bit lighter in the 1500HD, also the axle ratio. I have a 2500HD, 6L, 4.10 axle. I was looking at a 1500HD, but thought it would not be strong enough for the trailer I just bought. I have an 04 Sundowner 777 w/4' DR, weight is about 3500lbs. I know I probably have too much truck for the trailer, but am hoping that there really is not much of a difference to worry about, mainly gas wise. Thanks for the input.

 

The 1500HD is actually an 8600 GVWR 2500 (non-HD). In base form, it has the 6.0/3.73 package. 4.10 is optional. (4.10 is base with the 9200 GVWR 6.0 2500HD package)

According to my information sheet, the max tow rating for the 6.0 1500HD is 8300 pounds. Max tow for the 6.0 2500HD is 12000 pounds. Payload for the 1500HD is 3139 where the 2500HD is rated at 4074.

The 2500HD frame is taller, and also thicker stock at .197". 1500HD frame is .157". (standard 1500 is .106") Supposedly, the 1500HD sits
2 1/2" lower than the 2500HD version due to both the suspension and the frame height.

Far as I can see, both trucks use the same gasoline V8 300 hp 6.0 and the 4L80E transmission. 2500HD could been equipped with the 8.1 gas V8 and the Duramax Diesel, both with the Allison transmission.

 The SRW 1 ton is called 3500srw and it has a GVWR of 9900#.



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3day
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2010-01-13 3:09 PM (#115232 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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All understood, thanks. Another question. If there is not much difference b/t the 1500HD and 2500HD, what would the advantage be for having the 1500HD? Would it have pulled my trailer any better, or as well as the 2500HD, or would I have gone though brake pads, etc more quickly? Again thanks.
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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-01-13 3:53 PM (#115238 - in reply to #115129)
Subject: RE: 1500HD VS 2500HD


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3day, If you need to both tow and commute, I can't see any advantage of the 1500. The brake pad thing isn't an issue. If you just wanted to have a truck as a daily driver, the 1500 would have been fine. Probably a softer ride and higher gearing.  But the setup that you have is great.  The 3/4 ton with the 4.10 gives you a good towing rig.  You have the advantage of a truck that will pull and, at the same time, the advantage of having the lower initial cost and maintenance cost of a gasser that will make a good daily driver as well! The 3/4 ton versus 1/2 ton is sort of same question of SRW versus dually.  I pull a pretty heavy load with a SRW. But, is this ideal? No.  Anybody who has pulled a heavy load with a SRW and a dually will tell you that they can tell the difference, especially under certain conditions. To me, the 1/2 ton versus 3/4 ton is the same.  Can you do the job with the 1/2 ton? Yes, probably. But would you be more comfortable with the 3/4 ton.  Probably.  Not that I like, or advocate borrowing somebody else's truck, but, if you loaded your rig up for a trip, both truck and trailer, like Painted Horse says, and then did the same thing with a 1/2 ton, I think that you would notice the difference, especially if you drove some rough ground, some slight dips in a pasture and rough roads, over rail road tracks, some off road parking, and pulled some hills. I think that have have a great truck for your trailer!
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