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Location: Gallatin, TN | Does any one have or know of a super smooth trail gelding for sale? I'm looking for a new trail horse and I don't care about color or registration. I am wanting a gelding that is smoooooooooooooooooth in both a slow and a faster gait. Please PM me with any information you may have. Thanks and Happy Trails! Jacci |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Your in Tennessee.They are EVERY WHERE in Tennessee.Try http://www.golsn.com/ Tons of them show up in ads on that site from FREE to $$$$$ or http://www.twhsalecentral.com/ This time of year you'll pay more and they are kinda picked over.Winter is the time to buy.
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Location: Gallatin, TN | Thanks for the links. The places I usually check just don't have what I'm looking for. You would think being in TN I would have them falling at my feet, but that's not the case. Probably because like you said, winter is the time to buy. Thanks again! |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I have hit 'sales' in mid Tenn.for 4 nights in a row with untold amount of gaited horses going threw in the fall and after Christmas.All shapes,sizes,color and breeding's.That Go LSN site was packed with gaited horses this past winter.I almost(should have)bought a Pusher bred Tobiano 16.1(advertised at 16.3) hand 8 y.o. mare with papers in order that road nice for $1500 at a Saturday night sale in Cleveland Tenn.Wish I hadn't past on her.Sweet faced etc.Another I liked was was a 15.3 hand black mare,6 y.o. that was a racking machine.Not real mannered(green)but sold for $500.No papers.Needed miles but was safe.Think maybe had some Standardbred in her.Some of these type horses in OTHER parts of the country would bring a lot more money. |
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| We have one for sale,possibly 2.Foxtrotters.You can send me a PM if you like. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I've got some for sale also.Not as inexspecive as some of those Tenneesse |
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Location: MS | I have been looking for a gaited horse for MONTHS...started back in the fall. Yes, I have found some, but they are either too expensive, too far away or 'prospects'. Or, the gait was not smooth. The gait has been a problem with a lot of them. So, you may think there are a lot of horses out there, but not a lot of GOOD ones. I have sound one that looks and founds like my perfect horse, but she is 9 hours away! And people are going to look at her tomorrow. Oh, well.
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Location: MS | Jacci, if you will PM me, I will send you the contact for a lovely Paso Fino gelding in TN that appears to have a terrific gait. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | There are a number of nice TWHs on the GO LSN site.There is a NICE black gelding for $2k that looks quality. There are a number of gaited horses in the OTHER PETS catorgoy also.Some real low priced.
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Location: Delaware | I know where you're coming from Jac8. Just because it's a gaited horse doesn't mean it's a smooth ride. I had a grandson of Midnight Sun and he would get rough at times. I now have a sale horse with no papers that is so smooth, quiet, barefoot and a great temperment at 5 years old. I ride with other gaited horse owners and they complain about their horses getting rough at faster speeds. All I can say is ride every horse you are considering with other horses and at all speeds before you buy. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Some are not fast at speed.Sometimes its the rider.I have known people to complain about roughness in one and watch another ride him and smooooth.I have a very very good horseman withen a mile of me.Been out it for years.He' can' ride most gaited horses without bringing out the pace or whayever in one.I used him ONCE to start a colt for me.NEVER again.Took 2 months to get him to stop pacing once I got him back home.He won't take holt or drive one UP.Lets them go to strung out.Same with ones sometimes that overstride and hit themselves.Lots of times its the rider.Speed also has to be cultivated in one.Not all have speed.There are a couple on that LSN site wanting to sell cause they want a fast Signalfooter.www.shobaonline.com I have a Hispanic friend that his OWN Qtr horses draw attention a lot.He collects them and they look like a Andalusian going in to fight a bull.He likes a horse 'in fame' I saw a him ride a Morgan mare he had been training and it would take your breath away.The owners of that mare were astounded.They rode all loose reined and kinda thrown away.They had never seen a horse UP in the bridal before or only on video.
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| I have to agree with you on this! Jacci B,sent you a PM.Linda Y,we're in Arkansas,not all that far from you,if you're interested in either of our trail geldings that we have.Smooth. |
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Location: Northern CA | There are many nice gaited Standardbreds off the track. I got a mare that gaits sooo smooth. They are easy to work with after their track life. Easy to start under saddle and all. You can find 'em for almost nothing too. |
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Location: Missouri | Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2009-06-10 9:00 AM
THey are primarily pacers.
Not necessarily. There's a lot of trotters also. Then there's the difference of opinion as to which makes the better gaited ride. I prefer the trotty ones, but a lot of folks prefer the pacey ones.
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Most of the time trotty types are racking type.Don't see many Standardbreds down here.Seems they are behind lots of Single Footers. Been told the best Single Footers can't compare speed wise to full bred racking/single footing Standerdbreds. |
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Location: Northern CA | The mare I purchased was a Pacer on the track and she gaits like a dream. So smooth and no-one can keep up with us on the trail. She is 16.1 H and can really cover some ground. Great temperament and smart. Not "hot" like most of the Thoroughbreds off the track. She loads and ties, cross-ties and stands well for the farrier and everything else. This is the second Standardbred that I have purchased off the track. I still have the first one as well. He is not gaited though. I will look again at a gaited Standardbred but this time am looking for something shorter. ( I am only 5'2" ! ) |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I'd love to have one! I was told 20 years back by a horse trader from Ohio to watch out for the Standardbreds passed off as TWH's. I'd sure like to have a nice one 'passed off' to me.LOL |
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Location: Delaware | I live in Delaware and this is standardbred racing country. There are 3 tracks within 40 minutes of me. Every one of these tracks have trainers/owners always looking for homes for horses that just can't make money on the track. Most of these horses are free to approved homes and most of the horses are singlefooters. We have far more trotters than pacers around here. There is a rescue that saddles these horses and adopts them out. There is also a sale about 5 times a year that Chick's Discount Saddlery sponsors and this year I saw Standardbreds sell for less than $100. No one wants a horse that can't run a mile in under 1:50 especially a gelding. The cheap horses either went to the Amish or to New Holland sale where they probably went for dog food. There are some big standardbreds then there are the ones that look like arabian crosses, nice head and around 14.3H.
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| Standardbreds aren't usually the best trail horses IMO.Most of them that I've seen have been driven to buggies and are too fast.I don't want to be knocked off my horse going through the woods at a single foot or a rack.Try going up to the Buffalo River country here and going down a trail to the river 1 1/2 miles on boulders at a speed like this.It does not work. I'm not saying they aren't good horses.When I think "gaited" horse,I think of many breeds,but,not a Standardbred. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Bet no differant then off track T/breds.Seen some that had no issues with rating or brakes with some minor schooling.I've seen a few Standardbreds on YOUTUBE for sale that Singalfooted and walked/trailed what looked like just fine. |
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Location: Delaware | Most of these standardbreds slow down really fast when not behind the cart. Alot of the lesson stables around have a standardbred or two. These are for kids and beginner adults to learn on so they can't be fired up and after being on the track nothing much scares them. It just depends on what type of horse you like. I have never owned one but rode with people who had them and they were good all around horses. They do good as hunter/jumpers too. Remember, there are always nut horses in every breed. |
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Location: Delaware | Hounddog,
The Horse.com has set up a site for FREE Thoroughbreds and now offers Standardbreds too. You should check it out. They are from various states. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I will.Thanks. |
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Location: Gallatin, TN | I finally found him! Thanks to everyone who sent me links to horses for sale and information on horses for sale. Here is a picture of my new trail buddy. He is a 6 y/o TWH gelding. I'm looking forward to many many years of happy trails with him. 
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Location: missouri | Hey! I am happy for you! He's a pretty boy. I hope you enjoy getting to know each other. |
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Location: East Tennessee, USA, Planet Earth | What a very pretty boy! Have fun!!! |
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Location: Indiana | Hey-- I know this horse!! The previous owner is on a forum I'm on- He sounds really nice-- Congratulations!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: MS | He is gorgeous! Amber Champagne? Congrats...I hope he is all you ever wanted. |
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Location: MO in woods | Congrats on new ride.Love his color too. |
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Location: Gallatin, TN | Yes, his color is Amber Champagne. I took him on his first (first with me) camping and riding trip and he was great! We rode some pretty steep hills and he never missed a step and we went swimming too. Thanks to all for the nice words about him. He is really a great horse and I'm very lucky to have him. Thanks to Kari and Hal for selling him to me. JacciB |
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| Originally written by bbsmfg3 on 2009-06-10 9:32 AM Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2009-06-10 9:00 AM THey are primarily pacers. Not necessarily. There's a lot of trotters also. Then there's the difference of opinion as to which makes the better gaited ride. I prefer the trotty ones, but a lot of folks prefer the pacey ones. I'd find it hard to think that EITHER of them would make a better "gaited" ride. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Its when they 'square up" and gait.May be trotter in the pasture or pacy but they square up under saddle and when legged up.Best 'rackers' I have ever owned were of the trotty type.If not ridden for a while and back under saddle may trot a lot then as you get some rides under them they square and the trot goes away and turns into pure rack.I did have and ride a TWH for 16 years that could pace a hole in the ground.If ridden weekly he would square and rack pretty nice.He was a big raw boned 15.3 hand Chestnut roan gelding that I dearly loved.I have a pair of full brothers that are built differant.One is trotty and has a true four beat head knod with a wonderful Walking horse cantor.The other is pacy,cantors poorly but squares with some rides and a toe weight shoe and steady headed racks really well.Their hips and body's are very differant.I'm sure Standardbreds are the same way. |
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | It's interesting that you mentioned that your pacey horse canters poorly... My little Rocky mare is very pacey when at liberty; just a tiny space between the hind foot and the forefoot setting down.. She can't canter under saddle worth a lick.. On a straightaway, going from point A to point B (ex:..across a field.. something that "makes sense" to her), she does OK, but in an arena she canters a few strides then either seems to cross canter, or drops back to a half-canter (gaiting with a rhythmic "lift" like you'd feel with each canter stride). She seems to get all discombobulated and forgets where her legs are supposed to be in mid canter.. I can't canter her in a circle at all... I've never seen her canter in a circle at liberty either.. Occaisionally she goes thru periods where she will trot ... a HUGE warmblood-like trot, but I can steady her down to a gait quickly.. She is pretty long-bodied for her 14 - 14.1 size.. Takes a 75" blanket.. She can rack (I think it's a rack) if I keep her head fairly high and sit back with my legs in front of me ( I can feel her front end and rear end going up and down like a ship on a rough sea, with my butt pretty much staying in place..), I don't do it much because I've heard that horses can get "upside down" when their are ridden out of frame and lose their back musculature.. sometimes she will really stretch out and gait at a canter speed just as smooth as you please.. I ride english and have a tendency to chair sit.. My saddle has an adjustable gullet with airbladder stuffed panels which distribute weight evenly with no pressure points.. i don't think it's saddle fit...My reins are usually loose and her head and neck relaxed unless we're trying to do something.. I canter her with a bit of contact.. slow-gait on loose reins, and keep some contact while gaiting at speed to attempt to keep her squared and smooth. My newest mare, a TWH, is taller (14.3) and a little bit longer, but canters smoothly..NOT with the signature rocking horse gait, but smoothly nonetheless.. She appears to be a little long in the body, too, with good underreach on her hind legs. She does NOT exhibit the head nod..Both mares are barefoot and have been for years.. And will stay that way.. My rocky's feet are so tough that she does rocks with no problem.. Even carrying my weight.. My TWH is more tender-footed, but is recovering from being malnourished and needs to grow new strong hooves. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I've never owned a gaited horse that gaited really well on a LOOSE rein.I slowly keep taking holt of them and driving them up with heels or slight tap of spurs.If you PRACTICE the canter and some collection you can actually cultivate it.They have to learn to use muscles and use their body.I use roll aways and boot a few cantor steps slowly increasing them.I have also run them and I mean RUN as they can usually run just fine and start drawing them down slowly into a controlled cantor.There are many ways to do it.Some get good at it and some just get ok.I have watched a Saddlebred trainer take a fine harness horse that the owners wanted to put under saddle and show three gait.He used the wall of the barn(long barn) with the nose tiled into the wall and he would drive with his left leg nose tilted in and a little swat with a crop.Then he'd come back down the wall nose tilted in and drive with his right leg.Horse looked terrible.You'd swear he would NEVER cantor worth a darn.It got a little better everyday.In a month he had a pretty cantor and THEN went out to the big ring.He was a 9 0r 10 year old.He made a decent three gaited show horse. |
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