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Location: Prior Lake, MN | I have been shopping for a quality 3H LQ trailer (4Star, Elite, Platinum, etc.) and not really finding what I am looking for. When talking to reputable dealers and other trailer owners at the Midwest Horse Fair and the MN Horse Expo, they almost all seem to think I should go to a 10' SW and skip the 8' SW. I have a 2005 6'SW LQ, 7 wide that is just too small and was a perfect fit as a first LQ. So my question is this? How big of a difference will it feel to pull an additional 2 feet? (please don't say 2 feet worth )I also would like to hear from women who haul your own rig because your SO/hubby is non-horsey. Do you just adapt to the longer trailer? Do you wish you had less and not more? I do more weekends and long weekends and most of the time take a family member - my grown daughter or my mother. Looking forward to your input,Sue |
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Location: Western WA | Female hauling alone here! The extra length of the trailer is an absolute non-issue. I went from a standard 3h/4' sw no LQ gooseneck to a 3h/midtack/9' shortwall trailer that is 36' end to end. Its alot heavier than the non LQ trailer was, but it doesn't take long to get used to the extra length. I think the difference between the 8' and 10' LQ in many trailers is the size of the fridge and how much storage you get. If had to do it over again, I probably would have tried to find something with a 10' LQ and a full size fridge. I just have one of those under the counter fridges with an icebox. Not really convenient for long show weekends or long hauls. But that is my only complaint so I guess I didn't do too bad. I make up for less cabinets/closets in the main LQ by having a full midtack with lots of storage. |
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Location: Arkansas | We both ride and haul, but I go by myself if he is busy. I'd get the 10' as mentioned above, for a 6.0 fridge and the extra storage and room for having an extra person and their stuff. You get used to the little extra length easily. Having enough truck to handle the weight uphill and stopping already, I imagine, you should just keep an eye on things as you usually do and enjoy! |
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Location: Barnesville, Ga. | I would go with the 10 ft SW. The extra length is not that big a deal. The biggest adjustment for me was pulling a trailer that was 8 ft wide. My husband says, "It goes where the truck goes" and he's right. We have a 4H with a 14 ft SW that is 8 ft wide. About 41 ft nose to tail. Pulling it is easy; backing it takes practice, but it can be done. |
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| I would go with the longer LQ as well. 2 feet is not a huge amount. I just upgraded from an 18 foot to a 22 foot and that was a big change. I didn't figure I would really notice it but I sure did. Much more space was needed in the corners it seems. I will get use to it but those first few pulls were strange. Most of my pulling is up in the winding mountain dirt roads so that extra four feet was huge. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | 8 foot with a slide. |
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Location: La Cygne, KS | I haul a 15 foot shortwall LQ, 2-horse, 8 foot wide Elite alone most of the time. Just take corners slow and swing wide to avoid clipping the curb or other vehicles. Stopping a longer, heavier trailer takes more time so keep several car lengths between you and the vehicle you are following. 10 foot shortwall is plenty comfortable for 1-2 people and you'll have plenty of room for nice amenities like full size shower, fridge w/freezer and lots of storage cabinets. You can never have too much storage. I also have a dropped nose to make for more head room in the gooseneck bed. I'd also go with ducted a/c and heat in any trailer that is 10 foot or longer. Makes for even cooling/heating. If it is in your budget, I'd get the horse compartment insulated. I noticed a big difference in heating the Elite with a insulated horse compartment versus my non-insulated one that I had before. Plus we use the horse compartment as a mud room and a place to store our riding clothes/jackets/shoes. So we keep a ceramic space heater in it and our clothes etc. are not frigid on cold mornings.
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Originally written by CrazyAgain on 2009-04-27 6:56 PM I have been shopping for a quality 3H LQ trailer (4Star, Elite, Platinum, etc. ) and not really finding what I am looking for. When talking to reputable dealers and other trailer owners at the Midwest Horse Fair and the MN Horse Expo, they almost all seem to think I should go to a 10' SW and skip the 8' SW. I have a 2005 6'SW LQ, 7 wide that is just too small and was a perfect fit as a first LQ. So my question is this? How big of a difference will it feel to pull an additional 2 feet? (please don't say 2 feet worth )I also would like to hear from women who haul your own rig because your SO/hubby is non-horsey. Do you just adapt to the longer trailer? Do you wish you had less and not more? I do more weekends and long weekends and most of the time take a family member - my grown daughter or my mother. Looking forward to your input,Sue Not really that much difference in price. Go with the 10'SW, 2 feet is nothing to worry about. Now if you was talking about going up to something like a 8' with a midtack or a 15'sw then you could worry about it. My better half hauls a lot by herself or with her girl friends and has never had any issues. But we had a Exiss SS413 that was 40' hitch to bumper that she pulled with no issues. (you should see the looks see got at the fuel stations, she is only 5'4" tall) Bottom line is she said the 10'sw we have now is just PERFECT! HTB |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I found a 8 foot sw to be too long.Guess it depends on where you go.Logging roads and such.Even here at home it was hard to get around the barn and so on.It was to much trailer.The turning radius stunk.IF I buy another one I want a weekender with shower.Bed,store gear,shower. |
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Location: western PA | When we shopped for a LQ, we settled on an 8' model. It had the 3 CF refig, dinette, and a modest but complete interior. By the time we had driven home from the show, we already had reservations about the size we had chosen. The next day we had definitely talked ourselves out of the trailer, and Monday morning we canceled the order. We ended up buying a 13' LQ with a mid tack. With a couch it comfortably sleeps three, the size of our family. With a dual door 6 CF fridge, we can carry several days of cold produce. It's comfortable, and when it's set up, a pleasure to use. It's also long. Too large for quick trips to the vets or a local ride at a friend's house, we frequently used our shorter stock combo trailer for running around errands. I would recommend a 10' trailer as being comfortable for two or three people. I would rather have a less lavish bathroom and have more useable space in the living area. The larger fridge is a must, as is the most amount of cabinet storage and counter space. We use our cook top, but not our oven. The microwave and AC are must haves. A long awning is often used and welcomed. If you will only have one trailer, a very long one will become an impediment. If you have to compromise, a 10' LQ is a good choice. My wife pulls both of our trailers with no problems. On the open roads you will not notice the additional length. It's only when parking, tight corners or crossing rough terrain, that you will notice the length differences. The change for you would be slight, far less than the switch from a BP to a goose neck trailer. BOL Gard |
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Location: Prior Lake, MN | Thanks to you all for your quick responses. What a great site and group of members! You actually have just verified what I have been hearing for 2 weeks of talking about trailers with just about anyone who wanted to talk! :-) I plan to proceed in my search of a new LQ and will keep you posted on my results! The state trails in MN open on May 1st - Whahoo! It was a long off season this year! Happy Trails. Sue |
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Location: Minnesota | Sue- We have a 10' LQ 3H. Went from a 4' 4H so the length really didn't change a lot. My recommendation would be to go with an 8' wide trailer. You can't believe the difference it makes in space. My wife and I can walk by each other, one can be sitting on the couch and the other can walk by without tripping on feet, and you can stretch you legs out in front of you too. The biggest thing is you just don't feel so cramped in. The friends we were with at the MN Horse expo were trailer shopping so we looked at a lot of trailers with them. I think now is a good time to buy IF you can afford it. Seems like there were some pretty good deals available. Good luck with your search. |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Update from my first reply, Better half said the only thing that bother her was going to an 8' wide trailer. Some 3/4 ton trucks do not have extendable trailer tow mirrors and only have enough sticking out to see down a 7' wide trailer. But with extendable or larger trailer tow mirrors you should not have a probelm. Our older Ford and Dodge has standard mirrors and we can not see down the side of our 8' wide trailer, but our new Dodge has folding mirrors and she has no trouble at all. HTB |
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Location: Barnesville, Ga. | If you don't want an 8 ft wide trailer, then consider a slide-out. It makes a world of difference in your living space and would add lots more room if you go with a smaller width trailer. I still prefer an 8ft wide with a slide, but only you know what you are comfortable towing. Good luck. |
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Location: Little town in Pa | I went from a 7ft wide 18 feet on the floor gooseneck to an 8ft wide 21 feet on the floor gooseneck. My new horse trailer only has a 6ft LQ but I love it, but I am kinda a minimalist in packing. The size is nice for day trips to clinics and friends house and is fine for a weekend camping. If you have another smaller trailer at home, go for the 10ft sw. Try and think of all the driveways and places you are hauling to now when considering how long you want to go. It is a great time to shop, enjoy and good luck with your purchase. Oh, and as far as being a female driver, I just can't figure out how extra body parts would help in driving a longer trailer. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Why anybody would think of something around a 10' sw in UNDER 8' wide is beyond me.
No tow mirrors on thr truck?...well, you are under mirrored for pulling any HT.
The GN trailers all have 102" outside width axles, whether 7' or 8' wide. The width of the box has no effect on cornering. |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | Originally written by wyndancer on 2009-04-28 12:20 PM
Why anybody would think of something around a 10' sw in UNDER 8' wide is beyond me.
No tow mirrors on thr truck?...well, you are under mirrored for pulling any HT.
The GN trailers all have 102" outside width axles, whether 7' or 8' wide. The width of the box has no effect on cornering.
Sorry, let me make this simple for you!
On a truck with standard mirrors and a 7'wide trailer you can see down the side of the trialer. On a truck with standard mirrors and a 8' wide trailer you can see under the gooseneck while driving! Has nothing at all to do with the axles, what I am talking about is the main body of the trailer. (what most people/women look at while driving)
FYI, my 07 S&H 3 horse gooseneck trailer does not have 102" axles it has 96" axles, the Sooner we traded in had 96" axles as well....
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Location: North Texas | We have a 3 horse, 9' shortwall with a 6.0 refrigerator and a full shower. Also has a kitchen sink and a bath sink. Box length is 23.5 feet. JAG conversions in OK City can design one for you. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Originally written by wyndancer on 2009-04-28 12:20 PM Why anybody would think of something around a 10' sw in UNDER 8' wide is beyond me. Not all of us have your bank book. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | To the OP - I just bought a Bison 10ft SW/3hrs - 7wide. LOL! I love it! I wanted the 10ft because: Full bathroom, two sinks, and more storage! At first I was pretty nervous, my last trailer was a 8ftSW/3 hrs. I love the way the 7wide pulls compared to the 8wide. I feel like it follows better. I got a heck of a buy on my Bison from Uncle Bobs! |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | How could it follow you any different than an 8' wide? Mongo no understand. The extra foot in both the horse area and LQ way offsets the perceived difference between the two widths. A fiend has a Bison with a 10' sw...but it's 6'9" wide.....but really, what's 15"?, I mean heck, that's only 7 1/2" per side. He paid $1400/ft from Pony Hills for the LQ.......he wishes he'd have popped for the 8' wide. |
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Location: parker, co. | Love my 3H 7' wide 8' SW with slide out. I do have a mid tack also. I haul a lot by myself and don't think I would want to go longer. |
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Location: Barnesville, Ga. | I have met lots of folks camping and doing 4-H with the kids and I have never met anyone who regretted the 8- wide trailer. Usually folks say they like their trailer, but wishes they had gotten the 8-ft wide. Trailer follows the truck. Swing wide and use the mirrors. |
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Location: Georgia | I went from a 4 1/2 short wall with a 19 ft box 6.9 wide to a 8 1/2 to 9 foot short wall with a 22 ft box 8 wide. It did take a little time to get used to the 8 wide but it really was not that big of an issue. The mirrors on my 2002 F350 dually do pull out so I can "see" the whole side of the trailer (including wheels). I even got the bigger fridge in my 9 ft short wall. Apart from the structural quality of the trailer, having a full bath and full fridge were 2 of my requirements. The 8 wide with mangers is great for storing all the accrutements that go with camping. Having said all that, I do have a little 2H bumper pull for my "day" rides, so I only haul the big trailer for overnights. |
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| How big is a "big" trailer?? Mine is a 22 foot box.. is that big medium or small? |
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Location: Claxton, Ga. | I have 12' SW 4H (32' on the floor), not including the gooseneck. You should have seen us trying to get that thing pulled in and turned around at Houndogs house. It was a big pain in the butt ( almost had to get a drink LOL), we got it in their though. So, my thing is this, Ask yourself where are you going to go? Is it somewhat space limited? If so, an 8' SW will be about as big as you want to to. Pulling the trailer is the other issue. The Bigger the LQ the more truck you are going to need. If you go over an 8' SW you more then likely will need a dually due to rear axle weight and tire carrying capacity. If I had to do it again, the wife wouldn't have talked me into the bigger trailer. I had my eyes on a 8' SW 4H, that's what i should have got. |
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Location: Northern Utah | It just depends where you tow your rig. Going down the highway and pulling into a fairground the extra 2' is not going to be noticed. Going down a Forest Service or BLM gravel road it will. I downsized last year because I just couldn't get the bigger trailer into the trail heads that I wanted to ride. I don't show my horses, I don't rodeo, When I load my horses up, I'm heading for a trail ride or pack trip. So I need to get in and out of some tighter parking areas. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | I got three trailers, none are LQ equipped, two goosenecks and one is a bumper pull stock. We show alot and wife does some clinics and a little trail riding.... Alot of the time, where we go dictates which trailer we use. The six horse head to head gets the most use, but if we're going to someones house for a local "day show", forget about it... Most of the folks drive ways are too narrow at the road to make the turn with the 6H2H..... I have found that in our area that a trailer with 25-28 foot on the floor (with the axles toward the front a little more than most) is about as much as you would want to use, specially if you're visiting friends and trail riding. OH... I like them 102" wide trailer also!!
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| This is the same type of riding I do mostly. Is a 22 foot box going to be able to get into these places??? |
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| I just bought a 28 ft, 8 wide. It will be interesting in seeing where I have problems. I do some shows and trail ride. I am hoping that when I trail ride I can make the turns into some of the places. |
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Location: Dublin Ga | we have a 3 horse with 7 ft short wall, ours was custom made and has more storage than our 23 ft 5Th wheel with slide. So we are selling the 5Th wheel. we find that we only go inside at night or to eat if we are camping alone. We also use ours as a toy hauler to haul the canoe and such in the summer and it is alot easier to get in and out of the state parks. |
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Location: Ingalls, Ks | I guess one more thing you might want to consider is trailer height. We went from an 8' sw and 8' tall to a 10' sw and 7' tall. That extra foot of height made for a lot more storage. I personally don't mind the shorter trailer as I pull in a lot of wind and think it helps some, but we had lots more storage with the taller trailer and shorter sw. Both 8' wide. Hope that wasn't too confusing. |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Spooler doesn't have a horse trailer, he has a BOXCAR! Had to "back & fill" about a dozen times to turn it around in our yard. Real proud of him though,he didn't hit a single tree! LOL! |
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Location: Prior Lake, MN | I wanted to thank each of your for your responses. I did purchase a 3H 4Star with a 10' Trail Boss LQ. It is everything I wanted except it has a dinette vs. a sofa and I can use it this season and have the dinette replaced with a sofa if I decide to do so. Can't wait for the weekend now!!
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Location: Minnesota | Good for you! Enjoy it now that we are finally getting some descent weather here in good old MN. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by genebob on 2009-05-19 11:32 AM Good for you! Enjoy it now that we are finally getting some descent weather here in good old MN. .....Yep and just as the fuel prices keep on creeping higher.... and higher..... and higher..... |
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| I pull 32' floor length trailer as well. Its not too bad, but definately more agrivating than the 28' box trailer I left. it takes getting used too. I have pulled into some places and people think I am an idiot, until after they see me turn it around or back it up. You do have to watch where you can turn into to see if you can get back out. But, I feel you have to do that with any trailer. My biggest hang up with horse trailers is height underneath. If you have a driveway or washout your trying to get through you better be careful not to hang up, or drag the plumbing connections off. That is the problem in my opinion for having long trailer.
I miss my shorter trailer for rodeoing. Most of the time the 32' trailer is way too much to get in and out fast, but hey sometimes I miss having a dually too. Until I have to stop the trailer. Then I am damn glad for the 4400.
8/9 is too dang short. 10 minimum. 12 preferred. Most folks will build a 10' on a 27' box. You can get a 12' in a 28' box and still have enough room for horses to ride comfortable with 36" stalls. My horses are 16h/1200 and ride very well in them. If I go to smaller trailer it will be 12' on 28' box. The 28' I had before had only 10.5' shortwall. Tick on the small side for LQ to be comfortable. The dually will pull and stop one of these fine. I have pulled the old trailer with a 2500 and did fine. Just dont want to crowd folks or hope you dont have a blow out while running 70.
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Location: Claxton, Ga. | Originally written by hounddog on 2009-04-29 3:05 AM
Spooler doesn't have a horse trailer, he has a BOXCAR! Had to "back & fill" about a dozen times to turn it around in our yard. Real proud of him though,he didn't hit a single tree! LOL! \Thanks to your wife doing an excellent job spotting. I could do it again quick now that I have the first one out of the way....LOL |
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Location: Tracy, CA | Just wondering if anyone uses a rear view camera for backing in tight places when your by your self. I'm thinking about buying one as most of the time I go by my self. My trailer is 27' and I'm new to towing far as that long of a trailer. They have some pretty nifty cameras that I've been researching, some have IR which helps in the night when backing. The prices range from how deep do you want to dig into your pockets, just like anything else I guess, you get what you pay for. |
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Location: Central Arkansas | Yes, I use and highly recommend a backup camera. My system is a Pioneer avic z3 with Voyager cameras on the trailer. It is hardwired. LOVE IT! LOVEIT! LOVE IT! |
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Location: Prior Lake, MN | I like the idea of a camera too. I will have to let my pocketbook recover now though. I find that even when I have someone along, they are most times not skilled and cannot direct me that well. I do better getting out and looking myself. I may need to spend some time training helpers before we head out now.
I was used to the length of my old trailer and figure after a while will learn where the back of this trailer is also. Just don't want too make a mistake with my new pride and joy.
BTW, I brought my new 10'LQ home last night with a 40MPH gusting to 50MPH wind. I was a bit concerned but the trailer just follows the truck. :-)
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