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Location: La Cygne, KS | Doggone it, my old Garmin E-Trex Legend bit the dust. So I am looking at 2 models to replace it. Would like to know if anyone has used the 60 CSX or the Colorado 400t and can tell me pros/cons that you have had with either one. I like the 400t with the pre-loaded topo maps, but was wondering if the maps are detailed enough for national forest trail riding or if I should just buy the 60 CSX and purchase the National Parks Central Map load CD. Buying the 400t is cheaper in the long run, but not sure about the quality of the topo map load. |
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Location: Missouri | I use the Garmin 76CSX. I like the easy of use of the Garmin. I tried several other brands before deciding on the Garmin. The topo maps for the national forests in the western states(Wy, Mt) have a lot of the trails on them. The one for the Shawnee area does not have the trails on them.
I have never seen one that has the Shawnee trails on it. I suspect the current marked trails are too new. Most of the marked trails have been marked in the last 2 years.
If you ride out of either Little Lusk or Hayes or probably any of the other campgrounds in the area, you shold have no problem finding someone that has ridden there a lot and can mark the trail map for you, and/or even be eager to have you join them on a ride you'd like to take. If you ride the unmarked trails a GPS and/or guide is a very good idea.
Edited by bbsmfg3 2009-03-15 11:15 AM
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | Look into the DeLorme P-40 (I think) before you buy another Garmin.. It has a lot more memory, the extremely detailed topo/satellite maps are INCLUDED in the price, which is comparable to the 60 scx and the 76 scx and certainly cheaper than either when you factor in the extra maps you must buy for the Garmins. Plus the DeLorme can give you a birds-eye view as well as an eye level view. I have been researching GPS's ever since I posted a thread on them a while back.. I've not yet bought one, but DeLorme is going to be my choice, I think.. |
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Location: central sierra nevada foothills | Yes, there has been tons of threads on this with lots of different answers. In the search button click on it and type in GPS and see what comes up.....That may help you with alot, but just a tidbit, I have a 60csx and have for 3 years and love it. I even bought another one to have. |
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Location: La Cygne, KS | Read a bunch of reviews online this evening. And went ahead and bought the 400t mainly because it was cheaper with the map load than buying the National Park loads for the 60csx. I just hope the standard map load for National Parks is as detailed as the seperate map purchase. Anything has to be better than my old GPS! |
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Location: central sierra nevada foothills | I don't have the National parks software I looked at it and wasnt' what I wanted, I ended having come with mine in the cost of it, a gift/kit like deal, of course for the Garmin was the Topo 2008. I liked the old Topo better so I just downloaded it into my new Garmin. Glad you found and researched for the product that would best fit you. Not every GPS will be liked by everyone, have fun with it, that's what I do mainly, and track my mileage.... |
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Location: MI. | The Topo maps on the 400t are very detailed. We purchased North America city maps which include Canada and Porto Rico on DVD so you can edit your routes. If you purchase the North American Maps on the SD card that fits into your GPS, you cannot edit your routes.
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Location: East Tennessee, USA, Planet Earth | Garmin 60CSX, works great under heavy tree coverage and for mapping.
Check out http://tvnav.com/ Darrel has good prices and great customer service.
Have fun shopping!
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Location: East Tennessee, USA, Planet Earth | Originally written by ponytammy on 2009-03-15 9:22 PM
just hope the standard map load for National Parks is as detailed as the seperate map purchase. Anything has to be better than my old GPS!
Keep in mind...the maps are only for national parks, no local, county or state maps are loaded into the software.
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Location: Florida | I am on my second Etrex Legend my original still works but I just had to have the Cx for the color screen, which is now been replaced with the HcX. Topo 2008 pretty much works on most all of the Gamins. There is a cross ref under each map on their web site. What forest do you want to see if there are trails marked? I could look and email you a few screen shots. Jim
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Location: MI. | The maps are detailed right down to the road in front of you. |
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Location: La Cygne, KS | BlazingCreekBar, I was looking for Shawnee National Forest, but Bob on my other thread for Hayes Canyon mentioned that there probably isn't a Garmin Shawnee forest map load yet. Would love it if there was one! Maybe I'll map some GPS coordinates when I am there to share with others. Does it have the Current River National Waterway trails? I ride at Big Creek in Hartshorn, MO a lot too. |
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Location: Florida | PT Send me a PM with highway intersections, Something I can use to get me in the area. I am very unfamiliar with the Midwest. "Yankee" There are no unlock codes on the 2008 topo might just be easier to copy the cd and send it to you ;) |
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Location: La Cygne, KS | Blazing, thank you very much for the offer to look up the location. But we recieved our unit and located Eddyville, IL which is outside of Shawnee Nat'l Forest. It shows the topography, but no hiking trails as Bob stated earlier. Big Creek doesn't show trails either, but has very nice topography of the Current River area. Big Creek is located near Hartshorn, MO. I'm still learning all the bells and whistles on the Colorado 400t, but so far so good. Gonna test it out next Sunday on a local ride to get familiar with it before using it in area that I am not familiar with. |
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Location: North Salem, IN | I just bought a Garmin Oregon 400t. I haven't used it yet for trail riding, but have played with it while out and about in the truck. The maps are very detailed. I was seaching around Shawnee and even found One Horse Gap listed as a point of interest. I can't wait to try it out on the trail. Oh, and the touch screen on the Oregon makes it so easy to use
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Location: Kentucky | I think that I have decided to buy the Garmin 60CSX. I live in Ky. so mostly ride around Land between the Lakes, Shawnee National, Big Piney Missouri. Do any of you use the 60CSX and does it work well in these areas. The one that I am thinking about ordering doesn't have a topo map for the area but can I get along without the map. I am apprehensive about buying something that I may not be able to use but I need something for Shawnee National for sure. It is a big area and not well marked. |
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Location: WENTZVILLE MO | I have been using the 60csx for about 3 years and love it. I have used it at land between the lakes and High knob and Big Creek in Missiour and have saved most of the trail to MapSource and some to base camp. Look on E bay for MapSourse and topo maps CD that is unlocked they dont change the rivers and forest to often, I am using one thst is about 10 yeats old and it works find |
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| I have used Delorme, Garmin, and Magellan GPS's over the years but I tired of carrying one of those and my cell phone on trail rides. Recently found an Android app called View Ranger and have used it on recent rides. I'm very impressed. The paid version costs $19.95 and lets you download topo maps, National Park maps, etc to your heart's content. Specific "settings" include such activities as hiking, biking and horseback riding(!). Don't need cell phone service or wifi (except for downloading maps) since it uses the GPS on the phone. The information it summarizes after a ride includes distance, speed, time, etc., and the different elevations you rode at -- which is interesting for us who ride in the hills and mountains. You can even upload your tracks/route of the trail ride to share with others or download the tracks/route other riders have ridden and uploaded. It's probably more a function of my S5 phone, but in deep woods I have not lost GPS signal which I sometimes experienced with my Delorme. |
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Location: Grant City, Missouri | This may seem like a stupid question, but aren't there smart phone apps now that will replace the need to carry a GPS? Just wondering as I was thinking of downloading one onto my phone. |
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Location: central IL | I recently downloaded Easy Trails. It cost a few bucks, but I really like it. What is nice is that you can go online at http://sporttracks.mobi/dashboard and connect your phone. It will download your workout. I like logging my miles along with elevation differences when in the hills. When I first tried it out, I took along my trusty GPS to compare. The app was spot on. My only concern is the battery usage and data package which I'll have to watch. I had difficulty transferring data from my Garmin to the website and had all kinds of difficulty for some reason. I know I'd transferred data from it onto a computer years ago, but for some reason, CRS set in this time around. :-( |
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Location: missouri | please keep this thread alive the next month or sol.. I have an old E-trex legend... can hardly see the screen, but it works. My husband's Lowrance bit the dust. $$. Looking at a new one that will show more detail. |
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Location: missouri | Thrilled to report that I downloaded an update for husband's I-Finder Expedition GPS! It is old, but awesome. We took it down to Buffalo River yesterday as a pre-ride/camp trip to test it out... and, to check out roads going down from Compton. Yay! So far, I don't have to wince over needing to spend $$$$$ on a new GPS right now. |
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Location: central IL | Hoping to figure out a way to download saved tracks from Garmin E-trex to my laptop. I'm sure there's a way, but so far haven't figured out how. I downloaded every plug-in Garmin offered online. I'm not one to give up, and for now, my efforts are on hold. The weather here in east central IL is perfect for riding. Keeping an eye out for suggestions which anyone can offer. |
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Location: missouri | Your computer software may be too new for the updates....? |
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