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Location: MI. | Opinions? We like it but it will probably be sold by early summer. I wonder if it is too big for our truck.....If it isn't, it's probably close. It is more than what we want to spend. But looking at other 4-star trailers, this one seems priced lower than the norm. http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=189933
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Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain... | Nice trailer. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by Gone on 2009-03-03 7:55 AM Opinions? We like it but it will probably be sold by early summer. I wonder if it is too big for our truck.....If it isn't, it's probably close. It is more than what we want to spend. But looking at other 4-star trailers, this one seems priced lower than the norm. http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=189933 That is mighty nice... What truck you got that you fear may be too small for this trailer. To me that's a 3500/4500 dual wheel truck, size trailer.... And I'm leaning more to the 450/4500. Better too much truck, than not enough. |
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Location: MI. | 3500 srw...... http://www.tacktrader.com/show_item.php?tack_id=253399
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | Be careful posting ads from another website.... HWBar might get after you.... Love the trailer by the way... If I could have something like that.. I'd probably just sell my house and live in the trailer! |
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Location: MI. | The one on Tacktrader was posted on Horsetrailer World......I'm safe...he, he. http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=191827
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | Hey Gone.. Look on ebay.. there is a very nice looking loaded 2001 4 horse sooner (Oops! Bloomer..sorry!)listed with a buy-it-now of 38K.. It might be worth a look for you.. It is listed in the equestrian section.(I didn't get so far as to look in the ebay motors section.)
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Location: MI. | I emailed them and the pin weight is 2100 lbs. The trailer empty weight is 8500 lbs. Our truck is more than capable of handling this trailer......Hmmmm |
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Location: Home of Wild Turkey Whiskey | Originally written by ridingarocky on 2009-03-03 8:39 AM Be careful posting ads from another website.... HWBar might get after you.... I don't really care about who's adds you post here, but It's very disrespectful to post a trailer on this site that is advertised on another site. You wouldn't invite your girlfriend over to get some clothes out of your wifes closet would you? Dave is trying to make money with this site by selling adds, as a bonus we get a place to run our mouths. JMHO, if you don't get it, to bad. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Originally written by Gone on 2009-03-03 2:55 PM
I emailed them and the pin weight is 2100 lbs. The trailer empty weight is 8500 lbs. Our truck is more than capable of handling this trailer......Hmmmm Your trucks GVWR is 9900#, it probably weighs around 7200# empty with nothing in the bed and nobody aboard. That 7200# number don't include a fifth wheel hitch, bed liner, extra fuel tank, gun rack, full ash tray, etc. Empty pin weight of 2100# + 7200# for the empty truck= 9300#. That leaves you 600# for people and what ever added weight you add to the pin of the empty/soon to be loaded trailer..... Think about it!!! What does the pin weight come to when the tanks are full, cabinets are full of dishes, groceries, cloths, ice chests, tack, feed, horses, stuff and more stuff, etc, etc, etc....??? That 2100# pin, may very well turn into 3500# when you get everything all loaded for a trip. How much stuff you going to throw into the bed of the truck? Generator, gas cans, more water tanks/jugs, 1/2 cord of firewood, etc.?? What's the trailers GVWR? Our empty 10000# trailer turns into a 16000# trailer when we're all loaded up, and we don't have a LQ. Keep all this in mind, something to think about. |
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Location: MI. | Hmmmmm......Isn't the trailer balanced? Loaded trailer weight multiplied by 25% and that gets you your loaded pin weight, right? Curb weight (full fuel) on my truck is 3,776. When you have 7000# axles, are they rated for a max 16000# weight limit? Why is it that my gooseneck ball is rated at 7500# and my truck pin weight rating is 3500#? So, what happens if I go over my truck pin weight by 500# or so?
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Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain... | Originally written by Gone on 2009-03-03 5:01 PM Hmmmmm......Isn't the trailer balanced? Loaded trailer weight multiplied by 25% and that gets you your loaded pin weight, right? Curb weight (full fuel) on my truck is 3,776. When you have 7000# axles, are they rated for a max 16000# weight limit? Why is it that my gooseneck ball is rated at 7500# and my truck pin weight rating is 3500#? So, what happens if I go over my truck pin weight by 500# or so? Theoretically the trailer load is balanced. Tongue weights should between 20 and 30% depending on where the manufacturer places the axles in relation to the coupler. If you have a four horse and load horses in the first three stalls, you will increase your tongue weight somewhat. If you have a four horse and load horses in the back three stalls, you will decrease your tongue weight. Also, I hate to disagree with you about your own truck, but a 2009 Regular cab, cab & chassis has a curb weight of 5831. A bed, crew cab, extended cab, 4 X 4, all add weight. If you overload your trucks pin weight, you can individually overload your axle, tires, and springs, or a combination of the three. Concerning the 16,000# weight limit, not always. Look at various trailers and you will see different amounts. GVWR will be calculated on a combination of axles, tires, couplers, and axle placement (the further the axles are from the coupler, the greater the amount of weight that the truck carries increasing the GVWR of the trailer), and is usually determined by the weakest link (usually tires, but not always).
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Location: MI. | Thank you.....I am going to keep researching.....Understanding this can not be that difficult. |
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Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain... | What exactly is your truck? |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | QUOTE.... Loaded trailer weight multiplied by 25% and that gets you your loaded pin weight, right? Curb weight (full fuel) on my truck is 3,776. What kind of a truck you got... A "nerf" or "wiffle" truck? You must be talking about "KILOGRAMS". That 3776 kg works out to 8307.2 lbs. My 2001 Gas powered 3500 Ext. cab, 4x4, GM weighs around 6500#. It has a GVWR of 11,200# that leaves me about 4700# for me and all of our stuff. Curb weight (US) or Kerb weight (UK) is the total weight of a vehicle with standard equipment, all necessary operating consumables (e.g. motor oil and coolant), a full tank of fuel, while not loaded with either passengers or cargo.[1][2] What make and kind of truck do you have??? Dually, Single rear wheel, 250/2500, 350/3500, Dodge, Ford, GM, etc... I thought you had a 2005 ext. cab, 3500 srw, GM. |
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Location: MI. | Ok.......it is becoming clear. That 4 horse 12 sw is too big. You are right.....Nerf or wiffle truck? Cute! I had a brain block for some stupid reason. I see it now. Thank you for tolerating me....
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