Linex and Werm
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Reg. May 2005
Posted 2009-02-10 5:23 PM (#99192)
Subject: Linex and Werm


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I got my truck back and we love the Linex and BW ball. Hubby and I were talking about our "virtual" gooseneck and the question of Werm flooring came up. What exactly differs between the two products? 

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AQHA 123
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-02-10 6:16 PM (#99196 - in reply to #99192)
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The WERM is a lot thicker, also its rubbery and softer.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-02-10 6:22 PM (#99197 - in reply to #99192)
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Linex is thin, no cushioning, hard to scratch, protective textured coating, spray in bed liner, etc....   http://www.linex.com/

WERM is used in the place of trailer mats, poured onto the clean prepared trailer floor like cement, has to cure for several hours, 1/2 to 1 inch thick, shock absorbant for the horses, non removable... NO MORE MATS to pull out!!!  http://www.sofdek.com/about.iml

And no, I don't have either one of these products...

 

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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-02-10 8:51 PM (#99207 - in reply to #99192)
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The WERM flooring is very expensive but I researched all options for the floor and I decided to go with it. I figured I would forget about the cost but I would never forget about the floor if I was not absolutely happy with it. I take very good care of my stuff and I like things maintained and clean. To get my trailers really cleaned out I would always have to pull the heavy mats before I power washed it. Now I can just power wash the floor and know that its clean and the structure of the floor is not being compromised.
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Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-02-10 10:08 PM (#99210 - in reply to #99207)
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AQHA 123, What size trailer do you have? I am thinking about the WERM for our Sundowner before we start rolling for spring events. I have it at our local Sundowner dealer now getting eveything serviced and checked out, then going to the detail shop for a full clean up. Ours is a 3 horse 8' wide with mangers, not sure about the horse compartment footage I know it has 42" stalls so I would guess somewhere around 17'.
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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-02-11 1:24 AM (#99219 - in reply to #99192)
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My horse area is 16 feet long and standard Hart width. I think I paid about $1400 to get it done, thats not counting the transport fee.
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Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2009-02-11 12:50 PM (#99266 - in reply to #99192)
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Does adding the werm flooring help prevent pitting in Aluminum floors?

I have a foam rubber cushion under my floor mats and it is a pain to have to pull out 2 layers of rubber. Werm sounds like the way to go.

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Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2009-02-11 1:13 PM (#99270 - in reply to #99192)
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I have WERM in both my Bloomer 3H and my 4 Star 4H trailers. I love it! It is well worth the money. My hubby just hated wrestling with the rubber mats.

 

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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-02-11 2:46 PM (#99278 - in reply to #99266)
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Originally written by ponytammy on 2009-02-11 12:50 PM

Does adding the werm flooring help prevent pitting in Aluminum floors?.

Yes. It seals the floor. Urine and acids will never get to the aluminum or steel. This is the first trailer I have done it on, in 5 or 10 years I will know a lot more, but from what I have read its the way to go if you can afford it. There is nothing else out there that can do what WERM can do.
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2009-02-11 8:47 PM (#99300 - in reply to #99192)
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We figure about $13.00/sq ft.  Wonderful product.  Yes it's expensive but we've never had any complaints about not having to wrestle mats around. 
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Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2009-02-11 10:16 PM (#99311 - in reply to #99192)
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Has anyone had this outfit do their WERM Floor?

WERM of Ohio
101 N. Swinehart Road,
Orville OH. 44667
330-621-1467
Contact: Robert Swartzentruber

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Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-02-11 11:12 PM (#99316 - in reply to #99300)
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Ok, I'm not a carpenter how can I figure the sq/ft or ball park it?  It is a 3 horse and the horse compartment is about 17' long x 8' less the mangers in the 2 back stalls, so I would have a full 8' in the front and in the rear tack.  So I guess it would be 17x8=136'x$13.00=$1768.00???

If thats it, the rubber mats an't bad at all.

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Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2009-02-11 11:33 PM (#99317 - in reply to #99316)
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Originally written by hogtownboss on 2009-02-11 12:12 AM

Ok, I'm not a carpenter how can I figure the sq/ft or ball park it?  It is a 3 horse and the horse compartment is about 17' long x 8' less the mangers in the 2 back stalls, so I would have a full 8' in the front and in the rear tack.  So I guess it would be 17x8=136'x$13.00=$1768.00???

If thats it, the rubber mats an't bad at all.

The following prices are from their website...

http://selecttrailer.com/WERM.html

Installed, by appointment, here at our location. Typical pricing is approximately $1,150 for a three horse trailer and $1,450 for a four horse trailer. To set up an appointment or for more details, contact us at 1-877-685-4040.

Select Trailer Co.
3181 Hwy. 231 N.
Shelbyville, TN 37160

 

 

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Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2009-02-12 6:29 AM (#99326 - in reply to #99192)
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Hogtownboss - From my experience with trailers, a 3 horse normally has a long wall of 14'. If you have a slant load you measure to the center of the slant wall and that should be around 12' (give or take a few inches) If you have mangers you should have around 80 to 90 sq.ft. That puts your price at $1170.00. That is cheap insurance knowing your floor is completely protected! Plus maintenance free.

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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-02-12 7:41 AM (#99335 - in reply to #99300)
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Originally written by tobruk on 2009-02-11 9:47 PM

We figure about $13.00/sq ft.  Wonderful product.  Yes it's expensive but we've never had any complaints about not having to wrestle mats around. 

So to do my 30'x8' horse area in our head to head trailer, it would run around $3120.00, plus the trip to Mufreesboro Tn., from Rk. Mt. N.C.. 1200 miles round trip and three days out of work, $1920.00 missed wages, $300.00 for fuel. While we're there, a trip over to Waterfall Farm, Womack Stables to pick up a couple fillies "she's" been looking at since last fall.. $3000.00-5000.00 each, we'll just say $8000.00 for the two horses!!

So in all actuality, this new WERM floor will cost me a total of... $13340.00... That ain't good.

 



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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-02-12 8:21 AM (#99341 - in reply to #99335)
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Originally written by retento on 2009-02-12 7:41 AM

Originally written by tobruk on 2009-02-11 9:47 PM

We figure about $13.00/sq ft.  Wonderful product.  Yes it's expensive but we've never had any complaints about not having to wrestle mats around. 

So to do my 30'x8' horse area in our head to head trailer, it would run around $3120.00, plus the trip to Mufreesboro Tn., from Rk. Mt. N.C.. 1200 miles round trip and three days out of work, $1920.00 missed wages, $300.00 for fuel. While we're there, a trip over to Waterfall Farm, Womack Stables to pick up a couple fillies "she's" been looking at since last fall.. $3000.00-5000.00 each, we'll just say $8000.00 for the two horses!!

So in all actuality, this new WERM floor will cost me a total of... $13340.00... That ain't good.

 

OR you could say the two fillies cost you $13,320 and the WERM was a bonus!

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Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2009-02-12 10:33 AM (#99352 - in reply to #99192)
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Retento- Don't forget the stop by Bedford Tack, World Chempion, Winner's Circle, & National Bridle. Figure at least $500. each there! Three of them are right here- can't get this close and not make a stocking run.
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But in all seriousness we probably do as many 6H head to heads as any kind. May be just because there are so many mats in one to wrestle with in and out. Not to mention the jigsaw puzzle aspect of it all.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2009-02-12 11:17 AM (#99359 - in reply to #99352)
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Originally written by RTSmith on 2009-02-12 11:33 AM

Retento- Don't forget the stop by Bedford Tack, World Chempion, Winner's Circle, & National Bridle. Figure at least $500. each there! Three of them are right here- can't get this close and not make a stocking run. RTSmith www.SelectTrailer.com But in all seriousness we probably do as many 6H head to heads as any kind. May be just because there are so many mats in one to wrestle with in and out. Not to mention the jigsaw puzzle aspect of it all.

 You got that right about the jigsaw puzzle. You got to lay them out in the yard the same way they are arranged in the trailer, or you'll never get them back in the trailer without taking the hacksaw to them!!

 Yes sir buddy, can't go to Mufreesboro or Shelbyville without hitting all the tack stores!! We'll make our rounds out there three or two times a year. Everything within's arms reach of me now as I type this, is covered with "cataloges". I believe the folks at World Champion, National Bridle and Bedford Tack recognize "her" voice when they answer the phone!! Matter of fact, our horse trailers look more like tack shops, than they do horse trailers!! LOL!

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Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2009-02-12 9:19 PM (#99402 - in reply to #99326)
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I tried to measure it tonight (in the dark)and still come up with just over 16', this Sundowner has 42" stalls.

Still $1100 to $1200 would not be bad, $1700 to to $2000 might be tuff right now.

Guess I will find a WERM dealer down here since I have it getting serviced and cleaned up this week.

Thanks, HTB

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Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2009-02-15 9:54 PM (#99526 - in reply to #99192)
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I had WERM installed last May when gas was over $4 a gallon and we live in East Texas. My husband took it to Oklahoma City and Kris took care of it. Great price and he got him in and out. I have not regretted it at all. You're in North TX close to I35. Take it to Oklahoma City.
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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-02-16 12:25 PM (#99561 - in reply to #99192)
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Kris was a pleasure to work with, he gets my vote.
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Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2009-02-17 8:07 PM (#99653 - in reply to #99192)
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I finally was able to see a WERM floor at Equifest over the weekend. I liked the way it completely sealed along the wall and in to the tack compartment. However, the material seemed kinda hard compared to a regular rubber mat. Does it flex with the horses weight... I couldn't get it to flex with me standing on the floor.
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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-02-17 10:15 PM (#99664 - in reply to #99192)
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The Werm I'm familiar with is not as "soft" as a standard rubber floor mat. To be durable and long lasting against pawing, it has to be a tough substance. Soft and durable are usually the results of two different types of materials. Some Werm owners add floor mats during long distance hauls for additional padding.

Gard

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Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2009-02-20 8:39 AM (#99786 - in reply to #99192)
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Werm is by far the best thing I have done for the horse area in my trailer.  Easier to clean, because nothing get under it and grows the air is better, you won't have a horse move a mat then trip on it.  And this might just be my imagination but the trailer seems to ride better, tighter. It is made for this job, and I won't own a trailer without it again. 
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Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2009-02-20 12:26 PM (#99806 - in reply to #99653)
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Originally written by ponytammy on 2009-02-17 7:07 PM

I finally was able to see a WERM floor at Equifest over the weekend. I liked the way it completely sealed along the wall and in to the tack compartment. However, the material seemed kinda hard compared to a regular rubber mat. Does it flex with the horses weight... I couldn't get it to flex with me standing on the floor.
 

 

  If additional cushioning is required, use shavings.  Shavings are always a good idea anytime you haul long distances.

 

Marla

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Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2009-02-20 4:36 PM (#99812 - in reply to #99192)
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Shaving in horses lungs= bad idea. I would not want to ride back there with all those shaving blowing in my eyes and lungs.
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Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2009-02-26 11:21 AM (#100209 - in reply to #99192)
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I use the pellets with mine and have spent over 100 miles in the back with a sick horse and blowing dust was not an issue
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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2009-02-26 11:27 AM (#100211 - in reply to #99192)
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We use shredded paper. No dust, great absorption, no material costs, not slippery when wet.

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Posted 2009-02-26 10:16 PM (#100259 - in reply to #100211)
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where do you get shredded paper?
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Posted 2009-02-27 9:04 AM (#100283 - in reply to #99192)
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We have an industrial shredder and neighbours that keep us supplied with news paper. In addition, my wife works at a firm that shreds their old documents, and is given several bags full every week. Most businesses throw their paper away, it's often available for the asking.

The paper/manure combination breaks down quickly when used for garden fertilizer. This is what is delivered back to our neighbours in exchange for their initial donations. That then turns into gift bags of veggies during the summer. Its a win, win symbiotic relationship.

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Posted 2009-02-27 11:10 AM (#100293 - in reply to #99192)
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If it's finely shredded, makes great stall bedding also.
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