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Posted 2009-01-23 7:10 AM (#98031)
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Opinions? We're looking for a good trail mount. He is 5 and 15.3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKvP1p5rnyw

 

 



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Posted 2009-01-23 9:26 AM (#98036 - in reply to #98031)
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I would want to see a video where they trusted him on a loose rein without all the overbridling and hardware.... if there was no more info available, I'd keep looking.
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Posted 2009-01-23 9:59 AM (#98038 - in reply to #98031)
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I agree with flyingfarm. Why do they have the tie down so short? At least it looks like a tie down to me but I am by no means an expert.
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Posted 2009-01-23 10:52 AM (#98039 - in reply to #98031)
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Posted 2009-01-23 10:56 AM (#98040 - in reply to #98031)
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That's not a tiedown. Looks like draw reins to me.  The horse seems soft, cooperative, and well built.  Try him out, if I had $2,000 sitting around I'd buy him.
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Posted 2009-01-23 11:04 AM (#98041 - in reply to #98031)
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They look like draw reins. $2,000 "OBO"......He said he is really soft so....
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Posted 2009-01-23 11:10 AM (#98042 - in reply to #98031)
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I like him. 
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Posted 2009-01-23 11:14 AM (#98043 - in reply to #98031)
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He looks really nice! I would definitely try him out.
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Posted 2009-01-23 11:27 AM (#98044 - in reply to #98031)
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Does he have an HYPP report?
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Posted 2009-01-23 11:35 AM (#98045 - in reply to #98031)
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N/N

He said he has alot of trail time including picketing. He is well mannered and calm as well.

This is his daddy Mr Yella Fella  http://www.fossilgatefarms.com/main.html 
 

 



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Posted 2009-01-23 1:44 PM (#98055 - in reply to #98031)
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He's definitely quality. Looks like they always ride in draw reins, just part of their equipment. You will likely have to re-teach him to carry his head but certainly worth a look.
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Posted 2009-01-23 3:44 PM (#98070 - in reply to #98031)
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I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble with the idea those are draw reins?  All I see is a set of reins coming back from the bit to the hands of the rider?  I thought draw reins were used to draw the head down as a training aid?  I do see an english martingale type tie down.  But understand, I'm no expert.  So email the owner and ask if those are draw reins and if you can see a video of the horse being ridden without the tie down?

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Posted 2009-01-23 3:58 PM (#98071 - in reply to #98031)
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Why the draw reins on a 5 yr old? I would want an video riding the horse with out the draw reins and not in a round pen. I would like to see the horse doing the same stuff outside of the round pen, in an open field. Then you will know how soft the horse is and how it responds. They horse didn't seem very relaxed to me.
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Posted 2009-01-23 5:16 PM (#98074 - in reply to #98031)
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Looks like a martingale to me, and since he is being ridden in a snaffle bit, that makes sense. Nice looking animal. The man riding the horse doesn't show him to the best advantage, doesn't use his hands correctly or carry his weight centered.

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Posted 2009-01-23 5:45 PM (#98075 - in reply to #98074)
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Originally written by Marla on 2009-01-23 5:16 PM

Looks like a martingale to me, and since he is being ridden in a snaffle bit, that makes sense. Nice looking animal. The man riding the horse doesn't show him to the best advantage, doesn't use his hands correctly or carry his weight centered.

Marla


You got it right. In the hands of another this horse could really be something to own
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Posted 2009-01-23 6:00 PM (#98077 - in reply to #98031)
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He said he uses the draw reins because his head set is too high for what he likes. I personally feel, if the horse isn't meant to have a lower head set then accept the natural head set the horse has and work with that. You cannot change what is in front of you. I would ride him with a loose rein and he would carry his head how he is comfortable.

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Posted 2009-01-23 7:13 PM (#98080 - in reply to #98031)
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That is an improperly adjusted running martigale. Draw reins attach from the girth to the bit and back to the rider's hands. Many people falsely think that by shortening a running martingale they can "set" a horse's head. I'd like to see him without the gadget. He doesn't look like he has a peanut roller western pleasure horse head set- he looks like he'd carry his head with his ears slightly above his withers, which is fine.

A properly adjusted running martingale would allow the horse to raise his head to get some relief. Because of the way this one is adjusted, the horse can brace his head between the bit and the rider's hands, which is not the purpose of a properly used martingale.

He looks quiet and ponies the foal nicely. I'd like to see a little more weight on him.   

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Posted 2009-01-23 9:54 PM (#98088 - in reply to #98031)
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please take a look at "Bill's Easy Six" on www.horse.com   Thanks,  Rose

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Posted 2009-01-24 5:37 AM (#98105 - in reply to #98031)
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He is nice Rose but the reason we are looking for another horse is the horse my husband bought when she was a baby, didn't mature as big as we had hoped. She is being broke this spring and my husband feels he is going to be too heavy for her and I agree. She will probably be only 15 hands and maybe 950-1000 lbs. All of her brothers matured to 15.2 and 1100 lbs. She took after her mama. We have just decided to give her to our daughter. We are looking for a larger horse for him. I really don't want to maintain another horse but......We aren't riding right now so waiting until spring is ok, one less horse to feed until then. 

 

Oh, I found this same horse on another horse site and he was listed at $1500. Hubby wants to wait until spring. I have to admit, if an opportunity presents itself sometimes you have to seize it.....

 

Rose, I did look at him a while back and again on your listed link. I like him.......but his size isn't quite there. He'd be perfect for my daughter!



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Posted 2009-01-24 10:53 AM (#98118 - in reply to #98031)
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Bill's Easy Six was ridden by my nephew extensively and never had a problem carrying him. Nephew is 6'4" and 250# so plus tack Six regularly carried about 290# We would ride 5 to 6 hours; we ride saddle horses and Six never had a problem hangging with the group.   Nephew also did some team penning with him.  Nephew remarried and moved away from us so now Six is an "extra"  and he needs his own human.  Just my op of course.  Happy shopping;  there are lots of horses around.

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Posted 2009-01-24 12:10 PM (#98124 - in reply to #98031)
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Please don't take offense to my comments. My husband would feel more comfortable on a larger horse. I wasn't trying to insult you in any way.
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Posted 2009-01-24 4:34 PM (#98142 - in reply to #98031)
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I like the chestnut.. He seems quiet and unflappable while ponying the colt.  I bet, though that he has a tendency to carry his head high, maybe hollow his back and perhaps evade the bit. I, too, would want to see him ridden without all his paraphenelia. He seems a little agitated in the round pen (mouth open, chewing the bit). There might just be a mismatch between man and horse. The man's hands look to be a bit heavy.. Your gelding has a nice canter and a good trail jog, but he needed a little bit of muscle to stop and to back... I bet in someone else's hands he'd make a nice quiet, steady trail horse.. I had a rocky gelding that would raise his head and hollow his back (especially if he was trying to rush and I wouldn't let him) making him uncomfortable and a PITA. I used an arabian running martingale (basically the same thing as this horse's getup, the pull isn't quite so low as the draw reins this guy is using) and he would tuck his chin and round his back, squaring and smoothing his gait.
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Posted 2009-01-24 9:21 PM (#98166 - in reply to #98031)
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Gone....sorry I did not mean to be rude.    Hope you all find a good horse.
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Posted 2009-01-24 9:35 PM (#98168 - in reply to #98036)
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"I would want to see a video where they trusted him on a loose rein without all the overbridling and hardware.... if there was no more info available, I'd keep looking."

I agree 100%  -  While he seems relaxed, he has total control over his head by all that gear... what happens when he's ridden with only a bridle.  Ask for video of him being ridden bareback with only a bridle. 



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Posted 2009-01-25 3:21 AM (#98178 - in reply to #98166)
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That's ok Rose. I hope you find a good home for him. He is a nice horse.

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Posted 2009-01-25 11:31 AM (#98198 - in reply to #98168)
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Originally written by cowgirl98034 on 2009-01-24 9:35 PM

"I would want to see a video where they trusted him on a loose rein without all the overbridling and hardware.... if there was no more info available, I'd keep looking."

I agree 100%  -  While he seems relaxed, he has total control over his head by all that gear... what happens when he's ridden with only a bridle.  Ask for video of him being ridden bareback with only a bridle. 




Maybe they could get someone who actually knows how to ride to do the demo. The guy riding the horse in the video rides like a sack of potatoes and is extremely heavy handed. No wonder the horse gags on the bit. I sure like to looks of this horse, and someone with a little time and easy hands could probably make a pretty good ride out of him. Looks like he already has the basics.

Marla

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Posted 2009-02-01 6:55 PM (#98613 - in reply to #98031)
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Those are draw reins, not a running martingale as some might think they are seeing. I had to look close to be sure, but draw reins they are. Although I think all horses should be able to trail ride, I'm thinking this pony would make a better gaming prospect. Frankly, I like that he is green at 5, especially for a gaming future.Good luck finding a nice trail horse.
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Posted 2009-02-02 5:15 AM (#98627 - in reply to #98031)
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Thanks but it is frustrating to me.
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Posted 2009-02-02 11:41 AM (#98643 - in reply to #98031)
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The rider is using a german martingale.

 

 

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Posted 2009-02-04 6:35 AM (#98760 - in reply to #98643)
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Originally written by farmbabe on 2009-02-02 11:41 AM

The rider is using a german martingale.

 

 

You're right. Should have looked at it full screen the first time. Never knew why they call it a martingale, since it is more of a draw rein in principle and action.
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