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Location: parker, co. | Is the Honda generator that has been reccomended on here the 2000EUI? Just found one on Craigs list and want to make sure before I go and look at it. Thanks........ OK..... now I guess the question is Blue or Red...... the Yamaha 2800 is rated at 60-67 dba and the 3000 51-57 dba Does that make a huge noise difference? The price on the 2800 is pretty good at $1300 vs $1940. for the 3000 Honda $2000. for the 3000 49-58 dba and looks like longer running time on fuel. Thoughts?
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| Usually it is the 3,000. That's the one that'll run a LQ. The 2000 won't run an AC, unless you buy 2 and get the parallel kit for them. |
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Location: washington | Lots of people who endurance ride with me use the Honda 2000eui but as mentioned earlier, it won't run an A/C unit in your LQ. I have the 3000 and it is great, but, it does weigh a lot. I can't lift it myself. I ususally get help to load it in the bed of my truck and there it stays the whole weekend. I run it from there, making sure there is plenty of ventilation around the unit. One guy has two 2000's and links them together - he runs an A/C in summer with that setup. |
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Location: Dayton, OHio | I've had great success with the two EU2000's. The big advantage is they can be moved and stored easily. I store mine in the tack room, which can be locked when I go out on a ride or have the trailer parked at my house. My wife sometimes takes one for dog shows to power fans in the summer.I rarely use the AC, but have the kit and it works fine. It requires a screw driver and a few minutes of set up time. One EU2000 runs everything in the trailer just fine, including the microwave.The other draw back is cost. I'm not sure what the EU3000 runs, but the two EU2000's will set you back $2K, plus a parallel kit that is over $150. If you feel adventurous, you can build your own parallel kit with directions on the internet. You'll need some electrician skills, however. Good Luck! |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | I'm not 100% sure, but I think the 2000 model is a pull start only and the 3000 has an electric start with a pull start back up. 3000 will run the LQ fine, the 2000 you WILL need 2 of them! |
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Location: Vanzant, Missouri | I have the 3000 and I think I would rather have 2-2000. Most of the time I go alone and I can't handle it alone. I would rather have the 2 smaller ones that I can handle and with the jumpers for them you would have more power. Honda came out with a bigger series (with wheels) Mine didn't offer a wheel kit when I bought it.. I think I paid around 1600 for it...
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| I have two of the 2000's with a parallel kit and i absolutely love them. They are easy to move around and depending on what you are doing you can use one or both. Super quiet amd really efficient. I would definitely do this again. i would do this over a built in generator simply because you can use them for other things than your trailer. Good luck |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | But the main downfall is the 2000 is they are pull start for most people that is no problem but with my better half after having both arms cut on can not pull start one so we have to have the electric start because she does the Trail Challenge stuff by herself most of the time. |
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Location: parker, co. | Thanks for the input. I think I will wait and get the 3000. Any thoughts on the best place, least expensive, to buy?? |
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Location: Zionsville, Indiana | Look into a Kipor 3000 before you buy. As quiet or moreso,and less expensive. Good warranty. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Originally written by Kay on 2008-11-05 8:34 AMLook into a Kipor 3000 before you buy. As quiet or moreso,and less expensive. Good warranty. The only way the Kipor is quieter than the Honda is.....if it isn't running. |
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Location: Lowell, MI | Hi. I posted a thread earlier this year about purchasing a generator for my trailer. I've never had the luxury of having one so I wanted to make sure I bought the right one the first time around. I too was deciding between the Honda 2000ia or the Honda 3000isa. After going & looking at them and comparing the two and then looking at other models I decided I was going to buy the 3000isa. I DO NOT regret my decision at all! I used it all summer long and it was wonderful for running the air conditioner in TN when it was in the mid 90's. I is bigger & heavier but well worth the investment. I purchased mine off from E-Bay from a construction company that had 6 for sale. Brand new and I got a super deal! Look around...they are out there! |
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Location: washington | The Honda is the quietest gerenator - hands down. I have the Honda 3000 eui and love it, although I can't move it myself. It starts with the turn of a key - easy! I use a chain and lock it to the gooseneck chain brackets in the back of my truck when I go on rides, and there it stays, the whole week or weekend I am out. I bought it on the "no interest if you pay it off in Jan2010" plan so I have used it a year and still have a year to pay it off! Gotta love that. It cost me $1875. It can run everything on my trailer, including A/C, and many things in my house if I lose power in a wind storm. You can't go wrong with a Honda. |
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Location: parker, co. | Cowgirl, Where did you get your generator? I haven't really started shopping yet, but that sounds like a good price. |
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Location: washington | Actually, I bought it from a Honda dealership. The 0% no interest & no payments was a deal Honda was offering back in the spring. Not sure how long the special offer was, but typically in the spring is when generator's are a better deal. Winter is the worst time up here in the Pacific Northwest because that's when everybody's power goes out in the wind storms. Spring is when sales are slow, so deals are more readily available. At least , I think that is the case. |
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Location: Vanzant, Missouri | I bought my 3000 honda through the honda e-store....Which ends up being your nearest Honda dealer... |
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Location: Decatur, Texas | either honda.com or northerntool.com Would stay away from Kipor or what every it is called, just like tires, no chiness they are JUNK! Might run for a while then try to get it worked on. |
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Location: western PA | Another generator that is worth consideration for an air conditioned LQ, is the Yamaha EF2800I. It only weighs 64 lbs, is very compact in size, and puts out 20 amps continuously. With a price of $1300 delivered and no sales tax, it is far less expensive than two Honda units at $1100 for the first one, $1200 for the "companion" and $250 for the power cord. That works out to be $2550 total. It has enough power to run the larger air conditioners by itself. It can easily be moved by one person, and is small enough to store in a tack compartment. The small Hondas weigh 47 lbs each, 94 lbs for the pair. There is also a maintenance factor of maintaining and fueling two units or one. The Honda's are quieter singularly, but when run together, they would surpass the single Yamaha. After looking at all the inverter types available, this is the one that best fits my needs. It will easily fit within my trailer for lockable storage, and can be easily repositioned into my garage for the off horse season winter storms. I have some mechanical experience with Yamaha equipment, outboards, PWCs, snowmobiles and Ford cars. I have always been impressed with their engineering and quality products. No, I don't have any affiliation with Yamaha. I'm just trying to offer a quality alternative at a less expensive price. http://yamahagenerators.com/home.php http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/ Gard
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | Gard.... I wish that Yamaha had the 2800 on the market when I bought my 3000 boost model. the 2800 would run my A/C and I, myself would be able to load it. That EF3000iseB of mine weighs 150#.... I just leave it in the back of the truck covered with a big plastic tub flipped over upside down. It stays nice and dry. It hasn't been run in a couple months, think I'll go out and put a load on it for a few minutes. |
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Location: western PA | Originally written by retento on 2008-11-10 12:35 PM
Gard.... I wish that Yamaha had the 2800 on the market when I bought my 3000 boost model. the 2800 would run my A/C and I, myself would be able to load it. That EF3000iseB of mine weighs 150#.... I just leave it in the back of the truck covered with a big plastic tub flipped over upside down. It stays nice and dry. It hasn't been run in a couple months, think I'll go out and put a load on it for a few minutes. Anyone like you, who has run one for over a thousand hours with no problems, is the best indicator of a good product. BTW I too use Mobil 1 in every machine I own. Excellent reliability in every instance. Did you notice that the Yamy uses the same OHV motor in the 2400, 2800 and 3000 series? It is well "tested" by now. Gard
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | I found a yamaha EF 2800i generator for sale thru crags list here at what sounds like a VERY good price..... anyone know anything about them? I don't have a LQ, but you never know.... |
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Location: western PA | Read Retento's thread about his generator. http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=10545&posts=8 |
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | Thanks! I asked before I looked.... I found the thread also.. this forum has been a wealth of information for me..... |
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Location: western PA | Originally written by ridingarocky on 2008-11-11 10:13 AM Thanks! I asked before I looked.... I found the thread also.. this forum has been a wealth of information for me..... I also have gleaned a great deal of knowledge from this forum. When I've asked dumb questions, many people have generously shared their knowledge and experiences. It's very helpful to avoid pitfalls by learning about problems before they happen. It's also encouraging to be able to work out of a situation, by using the advise of people who have shared your experiences. Gard |
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| By spec Kipor is quieter than the Honda. The Kipor is covered by a two year bumper to bumper warranty, so if anything does go wrong it's covered. Both brands are very good, I picked the Kipor when I bought my new trailer due to the specs and the great price Midwest Trailer Sales in Wi gave me. I paid $1,600 for my 3000w. And so far not a bit of trouble after using it just about every week this summer. I'm sorry to hear that someone else had a bad experience, but I really don't think that's the norm. |
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Location: Rocky Mount N.C. | EU3000IS | Specifications |
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Engine | Honda GX200 | Displacement | 196cc | AC Output | 120V 3000W max.(25A) 2800W rated (23.3A) | Receptacles | 20A 125V Duplex, 30A 125V Locking Plug | DC Output | 12V, 144W (12A) | Starting System | Recoil, electric | Fuel Tank Capacity | 3.4 gals. | Run Time per Tankful | 7.2 hrs. @ rated load, 20 hrs. @ 1/4 load | Dimensions (L x W x H) | 25.8" x 18.9" x 22.4" | Noise Level | 58 dB @ rated load 49 dB @ 1/4 load | Dry Weight | 134 lbs. | Residential Warranty | 2 Years | Commercial Warranty | 1 Year |
Couldn't post the KIPOR info, but here's the link... http://www.kipornorthamerica.com/Sinemaster3.aspx Looks like the Kipor is 67db. at full load... Kipor is about five times louder that the Honda...
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Location: western PA | Originally written by lindszo on 2008-11-02 6:42 PM Is the Honda generator that has been reccomended on here the 2000EUI? Just found one on Craigs list and want to make sure before I go and look at it. Thanks........ OK..... now I guess the question is Blue or Red...... . Thoughts? My thoughts why I chose the 2800 Yamy: The basic consideration is whether you want portability or not. The Yamy will run the larger air conditioners, can easily be moved around by one person and sells for $700 less than either the red or blue 3000 units. It is small enough to fit into a tack compartment and doesn't need a wheel kit to transport. (put it in a wheel barrow if you have to go any distance) You don't need two of them, along with a ridiculously expensive connector cord. Yamaha has an excellent reputation for their products, of which I'm personally familiar with a few. The kicker is free transportation and no sales taxes. Honda currently has no comparable unit. Gard |
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Location: Atlanta, GA | All three units are good. Everyone has their opinion. We have friends with Honda's, Yamaha's and Kipor's. All are very comparable. If you want to spend the extra money on the Honda by all means do so. The kipor is more reasonable priced and they do stand behind the warranty. I personally have a 6000 watt Kipor and love it. It is not much louder than the 3000 and will carry what ever I want to plug into it. We have even run 2 trailers with it at once and it was fine. We have a 15000 watt AC on our larger LQ and the generator never picks up over an idle even when the unit cycles. Love it, Love it. I don't know if it is still available, but the distributor was having a sale to it's dealers on the Kipor generators. Check with your local dealers and have them check to see if it is still running. They have a over run on generators due to the Hurricane season. |
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