Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me
hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2008-10-20 5:42 PM (#93299)
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Have a filly that I was taking to a colt starter/reining trainer and picking one up.Got there .Unloaded her and loaded him .Now she had been a little fussy on the road and had rocked the trailer some .Anyhow swapped horses .Stopped at a little roadside store that served food.Ate and went outside and from a distance it looked like something was on the roof of my almost NEW Exiss Cx300 trailer.What we found was a SHOCK.A HOLE punched through the roof! About 6x6.Big enough for your fist.The aluminum is THIN.Not much more then a coke can it seems.But punched a hole through the roof in the corner above the escape door between the braces.With her head.Trainer went back to his place and went over her head and found no hidden damage.This could have been bad.I have seen the insides of MANY trailers with dents in the roof but never heard of one splitting open.Now for the repair.Exiss wants to add another sheet of aluminum over the existing one with screws and sealer etc.

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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2008-10-20 6:11 PM (#93303 - in reply to #93299)
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This sounds mighty familiar.... Someone was on here last year with an Exiss that had a hole appear in the roof above the horses head. Roof had torn away where the roof vent was installed. Hole looked big enough to poke a 50 count Tampa Nugget Cigar box through. I can't find the link or the pictures.... Must have been more than a year ago.
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hounddog
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Posted 2008-10-20 6:14 PM (#93304 - in reply to #93299)
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Well she punched a hole in it.More of a tear really.Sure is thin stuff.
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Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-10-20 7:06 PM (#93306 - in reply to #93299)
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Is there a vent where the hole is? The other lady's trailer split at a vent.
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Posted 2008-10-20 7:16 PM (#93307 - in reply to #93299)
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No.No nothing but roof.In between braces. Got photos if anyone is interested.
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Posted 2008-10-20 7:42 PM (#93309 - in reply to #93299)
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That's pretty bad if there wasn't anything there to have weakened it. I have always said horses are on a path of destruction, it's up to us humans to try to prevent it. Sometime we win sometimes they do.

 

 

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Posted 2008-10-20 7:55 PM (#93310 - in reply to #93299)
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Yes ... Almost the same situation.  Horse reared and bust through the roof.

I attributed the cause to the impact being next to the vent.  Exiss didn't frame the vent hole at all. 

Now it seems the two incidents have Exiss Sport models in common. 

Hounddog: Correct?

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Posted 2008-10-20 8:43 PM (#93312 - in reply to #93310)
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http://www.exiss.com/php/horse/products/product_detail.php?MODEL_ID=1710211

 

Is this the trailer?

This is an Exiss livestock Event 3H.

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hounddog
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Posted 2008-10-20 9:07 PM (#93314 - in reply to #93299)
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Yes. Mare was tied up front of course.Just thankful she didn't cut a ear off or damage herself.What a pain.Its not so big of deal fixing it as anyway its done I think will be noticeable if looked at.Its the pain in the rear to get it done.Time involved etc.Plus how do I know it won't happen again.My old 1995 CM Ranger had number of dents in the roof from the inside.It was a extra tall as this CX300 Event is.Sick and tired of horses and animals.I've lost my 13.5 year old goats,two old nans to a darn coyote in the past month and now my Chinese Gander is gone.Had him 8 years.Tired of this stewardship and being tied down to this mess.Got $100 plus worth of coyate traps set now.

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Posted 2008-10-20 9:55 PM (#93317 - in reply to #93299)
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Not sticking up, nor pointing fingers, but the CX300 Houndog has is an Event. The HD model. It should have a .040 roof skin. Same as Bloomer, Sundowner, 4 star, Elite, and many more. If you hit it hard enough.... You just can't build a trailer sturdy enough to hold an idiot (or a horse with a bee in her bonnett) and yet still be towed with an average pick up truck. As HW alluded to- horses: Beautiful animals with a deathwish. Everything in life is a trade off. Is a trailer any different?? I am glad she wasn't hurt. That makes a bad deal even worse. But then again, your insurance should be settling to fix the trailer, not the manufacturer. Just my humble opinion.
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hounddog
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Posted 2008-10-21 2:49 AM (#93322 - in reply to #93299)
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Insurance my xxx.I think I was told it had a .032 roof.I'll check with Exiss again.Horses are gonna rear and cut up in trailers.This peeled and feels not much more then a coke can.I wonder about the rest of the roof and when it might happen again..MSRP of $17k and change! Yea right.You can buy brand new cars and BIG motorcycles for less then that.Cars with AC even.Someone is making a killing off a set of axels/Chinese tires and wheels plus a ton of pop rivits.I didn't pay that for it but still in the $teens I'd like to get done with horses.Got to haul one to get him on calves and roping in the morning.Hope he dosen't stick his head in the hole in the roof for some morning air.I still have to find a repair shop or? To work on it.Pain in the rear.They want to add another sheet of metal from right to left.Add more screws and sealer.Say's it won't leak.
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Posted 2008-10-21 3:21 AM (#93323 - in reply to #93314)
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Originally written by hounddog on 2008-10-20 10:07 PM

Yes. Mare was tied up front of course.Just thankful she didn't cut a ear off or damage herself.What a pain.Its not so big of deal fixing it as anyway its done I think will be noticeable if looked at.Its the pain in the rear to get it done.Time involved etc.Plus how do I know it won't happen again.My old 1995 CM Ranger had number of dents in the roof from the inside.It was a extra tall as this CX300 Event is.Sick and tired of horses and animals.I've lost my 13.5 year old goats,two old nans to a darn coyote in the past month and now my Chinese Gander is gone.Had him 8 years.Tired of this stewardship and being tied down to this mess.Got $100 plus worth of coyate traps set now.

You need a bad ass Donkey, They will put a stop to the coyote/wild dog killing spree. Wish you lived closer, I'd bring you my 17yo jennet.... "Jenny", she'll take care of business. I think she lives, just to stomp a fox, dog, etc.

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Posted 2008-10-21 6:41 AM (#93326 - in reply to #93299)
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We hear more and more donkeys around the neighborhood but thats one more animal to care for if we got one.Han't help but think the cattle farmers(their little places around here are too sloppily run to call them ranchers) around here are losing calves,too.They say a cow will freshen but no calf shows up.Well???? We have what app eras to be ONE marauder doing the damage. Found tracks,scat and twice which way he came in.Have leg hold traps with scent and 12 snares set on the fence line.Still my big old gander is gone as of Sunday night it appears.

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Posted 2008-10-21 8:58 AM (#93334 - in reply to #93299)
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Before you take that trailer down the road with a ripped roof be careful. My dressing room door which had aluminum skin on it had the aluminum skin pulled out of the frame just a tiny little bit from the tie back and probably someone hit the door while it was tied opened but the aluminum skin was just pulled out of the frame just alittle bit. Well I thought , no problem, jumped in the truck, drove down the road 5 miles, stopped for gas and the wind must have pick up that little piece of aluminum and ripped half of it off the door. I had a huge piece of aluminum hanging off the door when I stopped for gas. So if you have a little piece of aluminum hanging loose anywhere on your trailer, get it fixed, rip it off or tie it down befor you get on the road. Just my little scary experience I would thought I'd share with you.
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Posted 2008-10-21 9:06 AM (#93335 - in reply to #93299)
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Got to use it and it can't be out of commission long.I don't care if the whole roof peels off.I've got 25 head or so and need a trailer that works when I need it.Thats the reason I bought a NEW one of course.My 1995 CM Ranger took a beating and kept on ticking except for rust.I had horses blow up in it big time more then once with nary any damage that mattered.
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Posted 2008-10-21 9:13 AM (#93337 - in reply to #93299)
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The strength a frightened horse can have is amazing. Recently in another posting was the description of a horse that went down in a trailer. As the owner returned, he saw a hoof and leg that had penetrated the side wall, and was outside of the trailer.

Our stalls are built of 6 quarter, (1 1/2" thick) rough cut white and red oak boards. A cast horse demolished several of the bottom boards in a matter of minutes. When the boards were replaced and then additionally sheathed with 3/4" plywood, the same thing happened again. Other than a solid steel or concrete structure, I don't believe there is a bullet proof inclosure that will withstand an errant horse.

At a stud farm in Ireland, the stall side walls were concrete, and from your chest down, sloped inward at about a thirty degree angle to the floor. A horse standing at the point of where the floor and wall met, would be able to reach the wall with his nose, but not his feet or butt. If he fell against the wall, he would slide away from it towards the center of the stall. The result was very few injuries, especially important with expensive studs.

Horses can be some of the most destructive animals I've ever encountered. To contain them safely to themselves and others is a challenge that will endure for my lifetime.

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Posted 2008-10-21 9:39 AM (#93338 - in reply to #93299)
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I have seen a 9 horse stock trailer that the road broke away.Had 8 or 9 horses in it.Trailer hanging down and pulled the truck sideways to the edge.Horses went haywire at the sound of a human voice.Anyway that trailer was beat to pieces from the inside out.Nothing came loose or penetrated. Trailer was still in use 5 years or so later looking like a bad hail storm from inside out got it.My CM had a few in it that went to slamming with both rears and was only single walled .Only minor dents on the outside showing.Have big doubts that this aluminum trailer could take a fraction of such.
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Posted 2008-10-21 9:42 AM (#93339 - in reply to #93299)
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We have had several different brands of trailers thru our shop that had roof damage from horses rearing in the trailer.  The last one was a 4Star with a hole in the roof from a 6 month old colt rearing.  A way to prevent this is to have the roof lined and insulated.  You now have two layers of aluminum with insulation sandwiched between.

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Posted 2008-10-21 10:09 AM (#93340 - in reply to #93299)
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Trailer should have had that to start with.Roof is .032 thick.Just got info from Universal Trailers(Exiss)
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Posted 2008-10-21 10:51 AM (#93344 - in reply to #93335)
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Originally written by hounddog on 2008-10-21 9:06 AM

Got to use it and it can't be out of commission long.I don't care if the whole roof peels off.I've got 25 head or so and need a trailer that works when I need it.Thats the reason I bought a NEW one of course.My 1995 CM Ranger took a beating and kept on ticking except for rust.I had horses blow up in it big time more then once with nary any damage that mattered.

From your comment about the rust,I assume that this particular trailer was steel?

"A way to prevent this is to have the roof lined and insulated.  You now have two layers of aluminum with insulation sandwiched between." I believe this is an option on most trailers.



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Posted 2008-10-21 11:21 AM (#93347 - in reply to #93299)
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Yep.Steel.
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Posted 2008-10-21 12:10 PM (#93351 - in reply to #93347)
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We have had several steel trailers,still have a Wrangler 4H slant steel GN.My husband wants an aluminum sooner 4H GN,but,I'm happy with that steel trailer,myself,and it sure does pull good,plus,we got it at a good price and it's in good shape.We can keep it inside,so,no big deal about the rust to me.We once had a horse rear up and hit the top of a 2H steel trailer we had while loading him.It sure knocked the fire out of him,I could tell,but he was OK and so was the top of the trailer.After that,we'd put a bumper pad/head cap on him,but,he never reared up in that trailer again.
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Posted 2008-10-21 1:03 PM (#93355 - in reply to #93299)
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How awful. So glad the horse is ok

I have to say, I am NOT surprised it was an Exiss. Our Exiss sport was junk! I hated it, and was terrified to use it after I saw how easily everything fell apart. Not putting down your trailer, I just personally hate Exiss and will never ever own another one.

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Posted 2008-10-21 3:25 PM (#93368 - in reply to #93299)
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How far back was your Exiss Sport? I did a lot of shopping before I bought.Exiss came out as good or better then others of the same sort.I'm still like WOW when I look at the hole and there are other dents from the inside out in the roof.It needs a liner inside the roof to spread impact if the aluminum is that thin and weak.
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Posted 2008-10-21 7:50 PM (#93378 - in reply to #93355)
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Originally written by drafthorsejunkie on 2008-10-21 1:03 PM

How awful. So glad the horse is ok

I have to say, I am NOT surprised it was an Exiss. Our Exiss sport was junk! I hated it, and was terrified to use it after I saw how easily everything fell apart. Not putting down your trailer, I just personally hate Exiss and will never ever own another one.

Hounddog's particular trailer is NOT a Sport model,it is an Event.
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Posted 2008-10-22 6:09 AM (#93398 - in reply to #93299)
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Links to the Exiss CX300 specifications. Looks like a pretty nice trailer, didn't realize they had a dressing/tack room. Empty weight 4460, bet it pulls good.

http://exiss.com/php/horse/products/product_detail.php?MODEL_ID=1710211

http://exiss.com/php/horse/products/spec.php?MODEL_ID=1710211

http://exiss.com/php/horse/products/product.floorplan.php?MODEL_ID=1710211

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Posted 2008-10-22 6:39 AM (#93399 - in reply to #93299)
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Pulls good.Was the same sort of trailer as my CM Ranger was.I like a big rear door for colts,old mares with no manners and hauling trash,furniture etc.Beware that the rear divider doesn't fit into the trailer opened all the way or collapse poor design.Had to BUY a telescoping rear divider. That was STANDARD on the CM and on my neighbors Silver Star it fit's into the trailer and doesn't overhang the three inches or so that it did on this CX300.Had to make stainless and brass latches to fold dividers back and latch them.Between that and a new divider it took the fun out of buying new.Now a hole in the roof.Just NOW have sold the old divider on EBay.But yes it pulls good.Looks good.Sure has a LOT of pop rivits.LOL
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Posted 2008-10-22 10:51 AM (#93413 - in reply to #93378)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2008-10-21 8:50 PM

 

Originally written by drafthorsejunkie on 2008-10-21 1:03 PM

How awful. So glad the horse is ok

I have to say, I am NOT surprised it was an Exiss. Our Exiss sport was junk! I hated it, and was terrified to use it after I saw how easily everything fell apart. Not putting down your trailer, I just personally hate Exiss and will never ever own another one.

Hounddog's particular trailer is NOT a Sport model,it is an Event.

I didnt say that trailer was a sport...ours was.

I realize the sport is their low end trailer. I did not however realize that when we bought it. I personally will never even consider any trailer from Exiss, ever again. If they are going to build something as unsafe and cheap as the trailer we had, and put it on the market, I want nothing to do with any of the models. Yep, I am bitter about that trailer...and maybe over opinionated on it, but I had a bad experience. Our trailer was only 3 years old, had only been used a handful of times when we bought it, we used it only a few times, and it was literally falling apart. it was always well mantained too. I truely wish I had done some info searching before purchase. I assumed since it was a big, well known name, it would be good. I will never make that assumption again.

Ok, done with my long rant

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Posted 2008-10-22 11:47 AM (#93415 - in reply to #93413)
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We have an Exiss Event 3H 12'SW LQ with Sierra Conversion.I'd buy another Exiss.The trailer itself has been fine.We've had a few tweaks with the LQ conversion,however.But nothing with the trailer itself,we are very pleased with ours,and there are plenty of Exiss bashing threads on HTW already,so,I hope this one doesn't turn into yet another one.
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Posted 2008-10-22 11:57 AM (#93417 - in reply to #93299)
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Ours is an Event 2001 SS310, and has been great, no complaints at all.  Would do it again. Goes to elk camp out west with a load of mules, multiple trail ride campouts in the Ozarks, hauls the 4-wheeler to deer camp, just has been used and always been sound and solid.

You know what they say, Never and always are words that you should always remember never to use!

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Posted 2008-10-24 5:22 AM (#93520 - in reply to #93299)
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I also have an Exiss Event 3h 8ft LQ. I have never had a problem with the trailer it self. The only problem i did have was a water line going to the HW Heater and it was a simple fix. I hope that this is my last trailer but if I did buy again it will most likely be another Exiss....
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Posted 2008-11-12 8:28 PM (#94803 - in reply to #93378)
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I must agree with the post of Gard...A frightened or spooked horse can do an incredible amount of damage.  As an Impound Manager for the state of GA for the past two years, I have seen horses horrible horrible shape do some horrible damage to everything in sight, humans, trailers (steel and aluminum), stalls, washrack, fencing...you name it.  You all know this with your best horses...they are flight animals.

In our research (of which you can image there was ALOT with the state) of trailers....we still continue to be VERY pleased with our Exiss trailers.  While we do have one steel trailer, it is not used on impoundments.  We use the Exiss STK 20 and 24 trailer exclusively.  Dollar or dollar, pound for pound they were (and still are) the best deal we can find.  You must remember that we hem up, corral and load in to these Exiss trailers MANY horses who have never been loaded,  let alone barely seen a human.  So, you can imagine their are some rocking and rolling moments going on!

While I have had many horses rear up in the Exiss trailer, have seen dents from their heads, never had I had one tear the roof, NEVER, and this impounding an average of 600 horses a year.

In a perfect world, nothing would ever tear up, break, or get messed up.  But we know, especially with horses, that never seems to be the case, usually the exact opposite seems to be the rule....if you have it, the horses will damage it.  So, we have had some damage to our Exiss trailers, but our local dealer has taken care of every little problem (which are very few in our scheme of things).  One final word on the Exiss...there is a reason we use them, and a reason Houston Animal Police use them....they are stout, dependable trailers at an affordable price and they offer great service.  I am curious if you have had your trailer now repaired by either your local Exiss trailer or Exiss themselves?

Just my .02 but I would not have a trailer than the Exiss!  We haul horses, donkies, mules and even the occasional zorse and zonkey...all very smoothly in the Exiss...our trouble is getting them in the thing and them getting them out!!  LOL!

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Posted 2008-11-12 9:34 PM (#94805 - in reply to #93299)
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Had JBJconversions.com do the repair. About 60 miles from me .(120 round trip)Real nice folks to deal with.Angelia deldt with Exiss direct.TJ with Exiss warranty was easy to deal with and concerned about the repair and damage.JBJ cut out the damaged area to a round hole and added a patch.Exiss paid for it and paid for a roof liner in the horse area so you can't see the patch from inside.Plus the liner will help absorb any other impacts .Looking at some  of the other brands of trailers on their lot I did NOT find the Exiss to be  the quality the others were .It looks low end compared to the other aluminum trailers I looked at .They all had roof liners and stouter looking welds and more substance in general .Tie backs for dividers and such. Plus best I could tell all the rear dividers would fit in the trailer with rear doors shut. The EVENT is suppose to be Exiss high end but it sure doesn't hold up under close comparison to the other brands I saw.Its a ok trailer but by no means a top tier.I could see if it flipped over how horses legs could bust through the roof.Pretty thin stuff.For what I paid for the trailer I got what I paid for.But by NO means in my mind would it be worth anywhere near the MSRP price tag it had.The problem with shopping for one is the distance between the brands to be able to compare or side by side.
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Posted 2008-11-13 7:28 AM (#94811 - in reply to #93299)
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Sorry for the trouble you have had with your Exiss.  We also own two Exiss Event trailers; one is a large LQ and the other is a STK16 BP trailer.  The BP stays in the road.  My kids ride 4-H drill team and sometimes practice 3-4 times a week right before a competition.  I also use it to trail ride almost weekly.  On average I pull it at least 3 times a week; sometimes more and have had no issues with this trailer.  Even recently had my big gelding throw his head up and hit the celing.  He ended up with sutures and about 10 staples in the forehead.  I checked the trailer and except for a small dent in the roof their was no other damage.  I have had such great service out of mine; I hate to hear someone that purchased one that they were not happy with.  Good luck in finding a trailer you are satisfied with. 
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Posted 2008-11-13 8:04 AM (#94814 - in reply to #93299)
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Not happy is not a proper statement .I could be OK with a multitude of trailers stating what I see and compare and the Exiss is not up there with the upper trailer ranks. Its ok .But for a MSRP of $17plus you'd think it would be more.Heck you can buy NEW CARS with AC for $17k or less.Lot more engineering/work/materials/skill in that then any of the horse trailers out there.I gave $12k and change for mine as a demo model.For the price I got what I paid for.But $17k I think not.Your horse hit a support beam to split his head open like that.The roof is not but .032 thick and I bet in a bad tempered mood I could put things through the roof.Lots of effort yes but not improbable .The Exiss warranty service I have used TWICE now.Both times quick and friendly support.The other was a wheel with paint or coating peeling.A new China made tire and I suspect China made wheel just showed up and no return slip or anything.I sent them a photo of wheel and tire and wheel showed up in 5 or 6 days.I paid $5600 for the CM Ranger I had.Yes it was steel but a LOT more material,welding,metal prep etc.was put into it plus it was slightly larger.I can see the Exiss being twice as much 13 years later but not 3 times as much.Heck a Harley Road King is about $17k with TONS more quality material and engineering put into it.Way more and THEY make a good profit on them.Trailer manufactures ought to be making a killing on these "horse trailers"
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ASJ
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2008-11-13 8:08 AM (#94815 - in reply to #93299)
Subject: RE: Another trailer danger area.This is a NEW one on me



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Posts: 195
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Location: Atlanta, GA

Hounddog,

     It has been a pleasure helping you with your trailer trouble. We sincerely hope that you will get years of use out of your trailer. Please let us know if you need anything at all. I know that you are not trail riding now, but keep in touch and maybe we'll see you and Ms. Ellen out on a trail. Exiss has also been great to work with. Thanks TJ for all your help.

Best Of Luck & God Bless

 

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