Fixing a spot on my front wall. I have no matt there but matts on the horses rear and door sides. Picked up the matt, great, cut to size, fits well. I can't find them big screws, found some online. Now the thing that I need to know, the place where I got the matts says they glue there's on, and use little screws. They couldn't sell me the glue they use cause of California environmental issues or whatever it was he mentioned. What glue has anyone used to set there mats up on the walls? Or have you not used glue and the screws worked fine? Any suggestions would be great. He mentioned that it has to bond metal to rubber as not to bubble the rubber when the metal heats up in the sun......

I would use a combination of the two, screws and glue. The glue would be a construction grade polyurethene, with screws spaced about every foot around the perimeter, and even rows about 1 1/2 feet apart.

Gard

HWBar,

I wish I had a pic. to show you how mine are attatched. They are big flat head screws, the head is about the size of a nickle or a bit bigger, and they are spaced great on each beam  of the trailer. They have never come out, worked out, or gotten torn off.

Can/;t screw into a trailer? I'm not making this a debate I just don't quite understand what your saying....

Here's what they are actually, just can't find the bigger head like mine and in black.....

Wafer TEK screws have a 1/2" wide flat head, so  that a washer is not needed. These are self-drilling, and are used to attach rubber mats or liners to the smooth interior of horse trailer walls. Depending on how thin the mat is and how thick the wall is, choose either 3/4" or 1 inch long screw

My mats are glued on and fastened with rivets... http://www.thefastenerconnection.com/Products/PopRivet.html

Cowpony I was making a point, that screws are used often in the construction of horse trailers. I would highly recommend to use of screws, the wafer screws you have described can be painted black before you install them by poking them into a box and painting the heads with a rattle can.

You can also find these trim screws at hardware stores and they are usually black.

Stop by Home Depot or Lowes and buy a tube of some Construction Adhesive.  Try a little on some of the scrap material you cut off and make sure it does not have an adverse reaction with the mat.  If all s good,  spread it on and then use the screws you have purchased.

The glue behind the mats on your brand of trailer almost looks like a form of contact cement like is used to glue Formica laminates down to a cabinet.  You apply it to both surfaces ( back of the mat and the trailer wall) allow it to dry, when dry and tacky you press the mat against the wall.  You only get one chance to get it in the right place. There is no moving it around to adjust where you installed it.

3M also makes a spray adhesive commonly used for carpet and mats. You can also purchase it at Home Depot or Lowes. I have used it for rubber, carpet, and felt on several different things. Spray both sides, let it get tacky, and then put it in place.

If you can't find black screws like you want, then use the gray and paint them after you put them in. Piece of cardboard with a hole in it just bigger than the screw head, black spray paint, and wa la...black screws. And like it was said earlier, black permanent marker will probably do the trick too.

There's a bit of a weight / holding difference between some rubber/ plastic on a the wall versus a couple of batteries and steel box that COULD fall and hit the pavement.

I have nothing against screws - they are frequently used in the repair of HUMANs and HORSES.... (I've got 8 of them)

Gabz,

I had to chuckle but that's not good for you, screws in your body. I hope your ok and it's an old accident and not horse related hopefully.....

Just saw on Tv where surgical screws are being used at $1800 EACH. I've got six. Guess we're worth something after all

Gard

Gee. I wonder how much titanium rods are going for?   (screws, plate, and titanium rod from horse accident)

And... the gold in my mouth from a head-on car accident.... hmmmm....

I gotta remember to update my "will"... make sure the kids get all the hardware out of my body before sending me through the crematorium!!  They'll have more money than my life insurance will pay.     (I wonder how estate laws deal with that? hmmmm.... )

Naw... there's no rust and the threads are still good, right?     I think there's a blue book for this kind of stuff.  

I wonder if Home Boy Depot has the right driver head for my Makita... I'll get some new blades for the linoleum cutter ... hmmm.... 

I just thought of something. I wonder if the $1800 is the GOVERNMENT price of those screws? I betcha.... (does anyone else remember the $1000 toilet seats?)