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stacimichael
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2009-04-08 2:28 AM (#102940)
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   Hi I have a question.....is there anywhere that anyone knows of that really works with you on your credit when trying to buy a trailer??? My hubby and I don't have the best credit just because of hospital bills...I know that some auto sellers are going to guranted approval but I didn't know about trailers?!? Thanks!!

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jcross
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2009-04-08 5:57 AM (#102942 - in reply to #102940)
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When you google "horse trailer financing" these sites come up....ETAC, CCI, All Roads Capital, Southeast Financial (I think they advertise on HTW) just to name a few.
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tr0y
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2009-04-08 2:26 PM (#102961 - in reply to #102940)
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Trailer credit seems pretty tough right now, I have a 740+ FICO ( Mid Score ) 100K income and due to a BK 9 years ago was turned down.

In that 9 years never made a late payment, payed off 2 mortgages, 2 cars so money is tight. I would work with the creditors on your lates etc ... to see if they will settle for partial payments for removal of the negative credit information.
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-04-08 4:19 PM (#102966 - in reply to #102940)
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A trailer is considered a luxury item. There are some out there, but look out on the rates.

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2009-04-09 1:28 AM (#102989 - in reply to #102940)
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Originally written by stacimichael on 2009-04-08 3:28 AM

   Hi I have a question.....is there anywhere that anyone knows of that really works with you on your credit when trying to buy a trailer??? My hubby and I don't have the best credit just because of hospital bills...I know that some auto sellers are going to guranted approval but I didn't know about trailers?!? Thanks!!

Well, it depends on how much trailer you are looking to finance...a simple 2 horse bumper pull or a massive LQ will change the numbers as will new vs used...What are you looking for?
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ecoman
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2009-04-10 8:43 AM (#103102 - in reply to #102940)
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My Brother works in a bank and he said anyone with 650 or better can get approved.  The rub is how much down payment is required and how long they will let you pay for it.  This way they can tell the fed's they are not turning people down. So those 240 month no money down loans are history.  20% down and 120 month terms will be the norm.
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2009-04-10 12:28 PM (#103130 - in reply to #103102)
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Originally written by ecoman on 2009-04-10 8:43 AM

So those 240 month no money down loans are history. 

 

 

 

And they should be.

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tr0y
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2009-04-10 1:39 PM (#103135 - in reply to #102940)
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I really have to ask why long term no money down loans are bad ? Some people I consider myself one think that, cheap long term funds can greatly improve cash flow models.

Could anyone please tell me why a well qualified borrower, great FICO, cash reserves, etc should not take advantage of little or no cash out of pocket and longer terms ?

I clearly understand why a borrower with a poor history of repayment should not be given these terms but an A+ borrower ?

Please do tell ...
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texas06
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2009-04-10 2:00 PM (#103136 - in reply to #102940)
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Try first internet bank of Indiana. I just got a loan thru them. They are easy to work with. 05 or newer 120 months 680 credit score or better 7.99 888-873-3424
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2009-04-10 2:43 PM (#103138 - in reply to #103135)
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Originally written by tr0y on 2009-04-10 1:39 PM

I really have to ask why long term no money down loans are bad ? Some people I consider myself one think that, cheap long term funds can greatly improve cash flow models. Could anyone please tell me why a well qualified borrower, great FICO, cash reserves, etc should not take advantage of little or no cash out of pocket and longer terms ? I clearly understand why a borrower with a poor history of repayment should not be given these terms but an A+ borrower ? Please do tell ...

 

 

 

 

Because if you buy a $50,000 trailer on 240 months no money down, in 5 years when your trailer is worth $30,000 you will still owe $42,000, so now here you are upside down on a trailer. Banks that lend their own money don't want you to be upside down on anything because that is their collateral.

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tr0y
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2009-04-10 3:34 PM (#103139 - in reply to #102940)
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HWBar -

According to your logic ALL AUTOMOTIVE FINANCE is a no go, anything like a car, truck, business tool, or equipment is a depreciating asset. On my current Sundowner it was worth 5 to 10K less than new the day I loaded a horse in it and it kicked the wall.

When a banker, underwriter or analyst underwrites a loan the numbers show until usually 60 to 70 percent of the principal is repaid they are underwater if a default were to occur, but the loan origination fees and interest make up the required ROI the investor making the loan wants to / is required to make on the amount of funds loaned until the securitized item is worth the amount due on the loan and even then the lender always loses money on any sort of item taken back by the bank.

To paint this picture, I would like a new trailer but I would rather spend the banks money at between 5 and 7 percent than take 85K out of investments or savings to buy the trailer, if I could get a zero down 15 year term I would be spending money right now. I am the guy these deals are made for 720+ FICO, Good Job, Reserves in the bank, why should I lay out cash to buy something I can get cheap money on ?

Now instead of that, I am watching the local auction lot and will pay dimes on the dollar for a repo and the economy and the trailer dealer and bank still lose, makes very little sense to me ...

This system was built to run on credit, without lending we get what we have now, sub prime lending, waste of time if you pay one bill late you will pay others late, the urgent need to pay them just is not there at least that is what I have seen in my years in banking and finance.

Longer term lending will come back but only to prime borrowers.
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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2009-04-10 4:15 PM (#103142 - in reply to #102940)
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Longer term lending inflates the real values. It must maintain a high resale value for a to be able to trade or sell. 

Zero down is what has hurt the whole market, cars, houses, trailers, boats, rvs....car financing at zero down is a no no. Unless you only finance 36 months. That is why you can buy gap insurance now for being upside down, or underwater, or whatever they want to call it. To me...anytime you owe more than what something is worth, there is a recipe for problems.

Now, when you combine zero down with long term lending...values on used items have to inflate even more. As someone said in another post...it appreciated instead of depreciating.

If an item is repossed and has to sell at half of it's value, it is then time to adjust real values. That is what we are seeing in the housing market right now. Lending does not have to be the way it was for the whole market to work. If you borrow, borrow short, not long. If it is too much of a payment, then you should be questioning if that is what you can really afford and adjust your wants. If you can't afford to put the down....you can't afford to make it a few months with no income should something happen.

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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2009-04-10 9:17 PM (#103158 - in reply to #103139)
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Originally written by tr0y on 2009-04-10 3:34 PM

HWBar -

I would like a new trailer but I would rather spend the banks money at between 5 and 7 percent than take 85K out of investments or savings to buy the trailer, if I could get a zero down 15 year term I would be spending money right now.

 

 

 

The banks won't let you do this anymore, can you blame them.

 

QUOTE]Originally written by tr0y on 2009-04-10 3:34 PM

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............without lending we get what we have now, sub prime lending.............

 

 

 

I don't know what this means? If you have stellar credit, and reserves as you say, then you are probley smart enough to know why the banks have stopped loaning 100% for 240 months. The banks need a little better than a cheap return.

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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2009-04-10 9:51 PM (#103161 - in reply to #102940)
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Let's use a different example than the banks perspective.

Because if you buy a $50,000 trailer on 240 months no money down, in 5 years when your trailer is worth $30,000 you will still owe $42,000,

Let's say you have an accident and total the trailer. How much is your insurance going to pay? $30,000. You are still paying $12,000 on a trailer you no longer have. Not a good deal to me.

If you have $85,000 in the bank or invested, I'd like to know where you are making 5%-7% on you money now. I'm sure not and don't know any body that is.

Edited by genebob 2009-04-10 9:53 PM

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2009-04-10 11:37 PM (#103167 - in reply to #103161)
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Originally written by genebob on 2009-04-10 10:51 PM

If you have $85,000 in the bank or invested, I'd like to know where you are making 5%-7% on you money now. I'm sure not and don't know any body that is.
That's how Bernie Madoff got all of the money into his Ponzi scheme...promise a HIGH PERCENTAGE RETURN...
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