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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-04-04 6:09 PM (#81195 - in reply to #80903)
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It is interesting to listen to people justify why they WON'T slow down...if the U.S. were on a wartime footing as it was in WWII...Speeding, i.e. fuel wastage would be looked upon as UNAMERICAN activity...ah how things have changed in 66 years...

 

C Gas Ration sticker was issued in 1942.

Gas was being rationed for the war effort.

The C sticker was issued primarily to professional people, physicians nurses, dentists, ministers, priests, Mail delivery, embalmers,  farm workers, construction or maintenance workers, Soldiers and armed forces going to duty, and several others.

It has a tab under the  "C" for the individual to check his occupation. There are 17 different occupations for this sticker.  In reality this one was more used than the "A" sticker which is pretty much mostly seen today simply because it was larger. Immediately after the war it was quickly scraped off the windshield as it revealed the exact occupation of professional people who did not wish their occupation revealed on their cars.



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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-04-04 6:16 PM (#81197 - in reply to #81195)
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I remember my parents talking about gas and sugar rationing,also,my mother said silver flatware was rationed.Man,how would all of that go over today?
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PaulChristenson
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Posted 2008-04-04 8:52 PM (#81209 - in reply to #81197)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2008-04-04 7:16 PM

I remember my parents talking about gas and sugar rationing,also,my mother said silver flatware was rationed.Man,how would all of that go over today?

That's why there is a derth of pre-war tractors as collectables today...because they disappeared into the metal drives during the war...at least that's where our families units went...

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N2ridin
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2008-04-04 9:44 PM (#81214 - in reply to #80903)
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Touche' Dave !  ( Pronounced Too-Sha )

Thanks for pulling in the reins

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-04 10:16 PM (#81219 - in reply to #80903)
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Sorry I even posted the damn thing. Those two guys suck the fun out of life.

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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-04-05 5:20 AM (#81226 - in reply to #81219)
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Originally written by gard on 2008-04-04 11:16 PM

Sorry I even posted the damn thing. Those two guys suck the fun out of life.

 

 

 

You remind me of the the little kid that stands behind the teachers leg and stick his tounge out, to bad I can't wait behind a bush on your way home.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-05 1:31 PM (#81263 - in reply to #81226)
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Originally written by HWBar on 2008-04-05 6:20 AM

Originally written by gard on 2008-04-04 11:16 PM

Sorry I even posted the damn thing. Those two guys suck the fun out of life.

 

 

 

You remind me of the the little kid that stands behind the teachers leg and stick his tounge out, to bad I can't wait behind a bush on your way home.

HWBAR, you have been very critical of and belittle other people for misspellings and grammar mistakes. Perhaps a review of your last posting, will give you the needed insight, into the difficulties of formulating a complete sentence.

teacher should be TEACHER'S

tounge should be TONGUE

Stick should be STICKS

to should be TOO

I know that you want to realize your mistakes and learn from them, so that you can maintain your moral high ground.

Please don't hide behind a bush, you're welcome to visit my house anytime you please.

Gard

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2008-04-05 2:34 PM (#81265 - in reply to #80903)
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I have no problem with people correcting my spelling, that is the way I learn, so I have no problem with towfoo  

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Dwight
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2008-04-05 3:06 PM (#81269 - in reply to #81175)
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Originally written by Tresvolte on 2008-04-04 2:22 PM

OUCH! That explains why my mileage has been so low. But saving 50 minutes out of a day...I can get a lot of things done in 50 minutes. But like they say...time is money. Literally.

 

That 50 minutes is based on a 400 mile trip.  Aside from truckers, how many folks travel that distance on a regular basis.  If you reduce it to a 50 mile trip, the time saved is only 6.25 minutes.  For me, 6 minutes is not worth risking my safety or lowering my mpg.  Not to mention running the risk of getting a ticket.  I'll gladly trade 6 minutes for another 4mpg.

Hmm...guess I won't be hitting the snooze button tomorrow morning.

 

 

RIDE ON!

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Mandi/Abby
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2008-04-05 3:32 PM (#81271 - in reply to #81119)
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Originally written by gard on 2008-04-04 5:34 AM

Originally written by retento on 2008-04-04 6:03 AM

OH TAY! Back to the truckers... Have they, did they, are they going to strike. If so, then they need to all do it at the same time. If each individual is going to go on their own strike.... "Like I'm not going to run my truck today, but I'll run the rest of the week", then it will not have any effect.

It happened, April 1st

Gard

Actually, I think it occured for more than just one day. Hubby said he saw trucks on the side of the road several days this week between here (Central Texas) and Los Angeles (he's a trucker, but not independent....he goes where the company sends him in THEIR rig @ their expense).

I think the purpose of the strike was to draw attention to the price of diesel (probably after the presidents "act" of disbelief @ the cost of diesel during a recent broadcast).

1. Diesel is some sort of by-product of diesel (or so I've been told). I have yet to understand why its $0.70 more per gallon.

2. The thing about truckers striking that draws attention is that without many of them, we wouldn't have the groceries and stuff needed to survive. Those trucks are what transports our groceries and other misc. items we NEED. They are HOPING (very wishfully I'm sure) they can point out how important they are to our society. I'm sure, unfortunately, it will do no good.

 

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Mandi/Abby
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2008-04-05 3:37 PM (#81272 - in reply to #81174)
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Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2008-04-04 1:11 PM

Originally written by Tresvolte on 2008-04-04 10:10 AM

That is right. I know my tahoe gets alot better mileage running 55-60 versus 75-80. But at 55 I feel like this .

Here is an article that came up today on Yahoo.

Speeding on the highway adds a surprising amount to your fuel costs.

With gas prices rising, gas-saving advice abounds: Drive more gently, don't carry extra stuff in your trunk, combine your shopping trips.

This is all sound advice but there's one driving tip that will probably save you more gas than all the others, especially if you spend a lot of time on the highway: Slow down.

More from CNNMoney.com:

Issue #1: America's Money

Gas: Painful, and Getting Worse

Diesel: The Truck Stops Here

In a typical family sedan, every 10 miles per hour you drive over 60 is like the price of gasoline going up about 54 cents a gallon. That figure will be even higher for less fuel-efficient vehicles that go fewer miles on a gallon to start with.

The reason is as clear as the air around you.

When cruising on the highway, your car will be in its highest gear with the engine humming along at relatively low rpm's. All your car needs to do is maintain its speed by overcoming the combined friction of its own moving parts, the tires on the road surface and, most of all, the air flowing around, over and under it.

Pushing air around actually takes up about 40% of a car's energy at highway speeds, according to Roger Clark, a fuel economy engineer for General Motors.

Traveling faster makes the job even harder. More air builds up in front of the vehicle, and the low pressure "hole" trailing behind gets bigger, too. Together, these create an increasing suction that tends to pull back harder and harder the faster you drive. The increase is actually exponential, meaning wind resistance rises much more steeply between 70 and 80 mph than it does between 50 and 60.

Every 10 mph faster reduces fuel economy by about 4 mpg, a figure that remains fairly constant regardless of vehicle size, Clark said. (It might seem that a larger vehicle, with more aerodynamic drag, would see more of an impact. But larger vehicles also tend to have larger, more powerful engines that can more easily cope with the added load.)

That's where that 54 cents a gallon estimate comes from. If a car gets 28 mpg at 65 mph, driving it at 75 would drop that to 24 mpg. Fuel costs over 100 miles, for example - estimated at $3.25 a gallon - would increase by $1.93, or the cost of an additional 0.6 gallons of gas. That would be like paying 54 cents a gallon more for each of the 3.6 gallons used at 65 mph. That per-gallon price difference remains constant over any distance.

Engineers at Consumer Reports magazine tested this theory by driving a Toyota Camry sedan and a Mercury Mountaineer SUV at various set cruising speeds on a stretch of flat highway. Driving the Camry at 75 mph instead of 65 dropped fuel economy from 35 mpg to 30. For the Mountaineer, fuel economy dropped from 21 to 18.

Over the course of a 400-mile road trip, the Camry driver would spend about $6.19 more on gas at the higher speed and Mountaineer driver would spend an extra $10.32.

Driving even slower, say 55 mph, could save slightly more gas. In fact, the old national 55 mph speed limit, instituted in 1974, was a response to the period's energy crisis.

It was about more than just high gas prices, though. The crisis of the time involved literal gasoline shortages due to an international embargo. Gas stations were sometimes left with none to sell, and gas sales had to be rationed. The crisis passed, but the national 55 mph speed limit stayed on the books until the law was loosened in the 1980s. It was finally dropped altogether in 1995. (The law stuck around more because of an apparent safety benefit than for fuel saving.)

Despite today's high gas prices, don't expect to see a return to the national 55 mph speed limit. The law was unpopular in its day, and higher speeds have become so institutionalized that even the Environmental Protection Agency's fuel economy test cycle now includes speeds of up to 80 mph.

Driving 10 miles per hour faster, assuming you don't lose time getting pulled over for a speeding ticket, does have the advantage of getting you to your destination 50 minutes sooner on that 400 mile trip. Whether that time difference is worth the added cost and risk is, ultimately, up to you.

Copyrighted, CNNMoney. All Rights Reserved.

The time saved discussion is a lecture my uncle (now a detective, once a traffic cop) often gave offenders when he would write citations. It definitely sits in the back of my head as a reminder that speeding is rather useless (except on long trips LOL!!!!!....j/k)

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Mandi/Abby
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2008-04-05 3:40 PM (#81273 - in reply to #80903)
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As for going back to the 55mph speed limit....I'm all for 60-65. From what I've noticed, this is when my truck gets the best fuel mileage.

Of course, honestly, I can't complain much. Supposedly, the quality of diesel is lower and many people are getting worse mileage than before this "low sulfur" stuff started.

I drive a 2006 quad cab, 4x4, 6 speed Dodge diesel and during regular driving back and forth to work, running errands, I average between 20-22mpg. Pulling (3H alum. slowly getting LQ installed), usually fully loaded with horses, I get 17-19mpg and pulls like a dream. I love my dodges.

I offered to sell it to one of the doctors I work for as a joke (he has a 2003 just like mine, but had HELL with it last year as far as mechanical issues go) but hubby told me the other day I better hang on to it because the newer ones are getting worse fuel mileage...

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loveduffy
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2008-04-05 4:37 PM (#81277 - in reply to #80903)
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even gas is not all gas 10% is ethanol alcohol which burns faster then gas ,so you use up your gas faster ,so why is it we are paying more for less?
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-05 10:28 PM (#81293 - in reply to #81277)
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Originally written by loveduffy on 2008-04-05 5:37 PM

even gas is not all gas 10% is ethanol alcohol which burns faster then gas ,so you use up your gas faster ,so why is it we are paying more for less?

Bush signed the act into law in 2005, after the lobbyists bought another piece of our government.

Gard

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-07 9:37 AM (#81375 - in reply to #80903)
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Well, I did it. Slowed down to the speed limit over the weekend. Late everywhere I went.Stupid snooze button.  

In all seriousness, I did slow down. City traffic most of it. I didn't exceed the speed limit at all. Gained 3 mpg. And that was real world, 50 minute at a time, driving. Now on my tank, that will make 90 miles difference per tank. A fairly significant amount by itself. Imagine if we all were to slow down. That would make a huge difference.

And Paul, I take the "won't slow down" as directed at me since I was the only one that admittedly speeds, but if you will go back and look, I never stated that I "won't".

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Tresvolte
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2008-04-07 10:04 AM (#81377 - in reply to #80903)
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Interesting. Saltwater for fuel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM

 

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2008-04-09 4:51 PM (#81542 - in reply to #81375)
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Originally written by Tresvolte on 2008-04-07 10:37 AM

Well, I did it. Slowed down to the speed limit over the weekend. Late everywhere I went.Stupid snooze button.  

In all seriousness, I did slow down. City traffic most of it. I didn't exceed the speed limit at all. Gained 3 mpg. And that was real world, 50 minute at a time, driving. Now on my tank, that will make 90 miles difference per tank. A fairly significant amount by itself. Imagine if we all were to slow down. That would make a huge difference.

And Paul, I take the "won't slow down" as directed at me since I was the only one that admittedly speeds, but if you will go back and look, I never stated that I "won't".

You were NOT being singled out......There have been other on this and other threads on this forum who emphasized the speeds that they traveled with and without their trailers...But if you felt guilty and so benefited from your guilty feelings, then my work here is done...

 

This is where the real future for clean motoring is...

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-04-09 5:20 PM (#81547 - in reply to #81542)
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I'm on my third HOnda.You can't hardly  wear the things out,just put oil and gas in them with occasional maintainence and they run like an old Singer sewing machine.

Next one I have,tho,is going to have a V6 in it no matter what.I'm tired of driving 4's and can't get up a hill without staying in the floor the entire time.Also,I'm going to shoot for that Pilot next time instead of the CR-V even tho I like the streamlined look of the new CR-V's.

HOndas are great vehicles.The last 2 that I had only had 1 thing to go wrong with each of them,and it was no real biggie.One was a recall issue.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2008-04-09 6:08 PM (#81554 - in reply to #80903)
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CRG, when you buy your Pilot, PLEASE don't ask how large a trailer you can pull with it.
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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-04-09 7:07 PM (#81560 - in reply to #81554)
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HA HA,don't worry bout that!
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