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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 1:33 AM (#75575 - in reply to #75554)
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Originally written by krisell26 on 2008-01-29 6:13 PM

How about a Tahoe or Yukon?  What kind of rear end does it need to pull just about any horse trailer?  I'm thinking of a 2 or 3 horse slant with dressing room now that I know I need a bigger truck.


Here's the specs on a new Yukon: http://www.gmc.com/pdf/Yukon_web_specs.pdf

Looks like the strongest puller will be an XL 2WD 3/4 ton with the Vortec 6.0L and 3.73 rear end. It shows a rated 9700 lbs trailer capacity, but I suspect the real-world capacity will be somewhat less once you load up the vehicle and look at the combined weight rating. It should pull a nice 2H bp trailer, though.

Unless you need the enclosed interior space of the Yukon, a good 1/2 ton pickup will give you about as much capacity for less money, along with the option of going with a GN if you choose. If you want to haul 3 horses, I would go with a 3/4 ton.
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-01-30 6:35 AM (#75577 - in reply to #75351)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?



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I'm going to play devil's advocate here, the thinking seems to be if you are towing 3 horses you need a 3/4 ton vehicle.

My wife tows a three horse slant all steel Titan Avalance BP trailer with three horses in it, one of them is a pony weighs about 500lbs. the other two easily will go over 1000lbs. With a 06' Cadillac Escalade with towing package. It has a tow rating of 8100lbs. It has the 6.0L engine, I have driven this set-up and it does fine, no problems merging into traffic, no problems stopping.

I personally drive a CC Duramax/Allison I am hooked to a LQ trailer at least once a week(I build them). When I hook up to a 14' LQ empty, it is alot heavier feeling than my wifes setup is loaded. Sure I have more power and brakes than she does, but I also have to be much more careful due to all the extra weight.

What I am trying to get across is that a 1/2 type(Truck/Tahoe/Escalade) with a 3 Horse BP is much safer than a 1 ton with a loaded up LQ trailer. If you are buying a 3/4 or 1 ton truck to tow a BP, then you must have more money than sense. 

Here is the trailer we tow with the Escalade, http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=137824

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krisell26
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 6:36 AM (#75578 - in reply to #75351)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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I need the space and the third row seat because I have 3 kids and a dog! This vehicle will be used as our vacation vehicle. I really don't have a need for a truck as big as some of you are mentioning. I will probably buy a trailer that weighs 3000 lbs MAX and mostly one horse maybe two sometimes. I am thinking that equals around 5500 lbs with everything including tack. Everything I've read about the Tahoe states that it is capable of towing 8200 lbs, which gives me a good surplus. Anyone agree? I will be towing around KY, about a 2 or 3 hour radius of our home.
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krisell26
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 6:45 AM (#75580 - in reply to #75577)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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That is an awesome trailer you make!  Do you make a 2 horse version?  The Tahoe or Yukon will probably have a 5.7 engine.  I can't afford a new one.  I'm looking at an 03-05.  Someone else has eaten the depreciation!
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2008-01-30 6:48 AM (#75581 - in reply to #75578)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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Originally written by krisell26 on 2008-01-30 6:36 AM

I need the space and the third row seat because I have 3 kids and a dog! This vehicle will be used as our vacation vehicle. I really don't have a need for a truck as big as some of you are mentioning. I will probably buy a trailer that weighs 3000 lbs MAX and mostly one horse maybe two sometimes. I am thinking that equals around 5500 lbs with everything including tack. Everything I've read about the Tahoe states that it is capable of towing 8200 lbs, which gives me a good surplus. Anyone agree? I will be towing around KY, about a 2 or 3 hour radius of our home.

A Tahoe will do a fine job for you. HWBar is correct about people "thinking" you needing a 3/4 ton for a BP being just plain silly. Ive mentioned before the brakes on the new Tahoe are larger than on my Duramax.......and they feel like it. A lady we trail ride with recently traded her 2000 Chevy 2500 3/4 ton for a new Tahoe, she prefers the new Tahoe. Said it has more power AND stops better. Whatever you end up with make sure it is set up to tow, tranny cooler, 4.10 rear, hitch, trailer plug etc...........



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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2008-01-30 6:51 AM (#75582 - in reply to #75580)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?



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Originally written by krisell26 on 2008-01-30 6:45 AM

That is an awesome trailer you make!  Do you make a 2 horse version?  The Tahoe or Yukon will probably have a 5.7 engine.  I can't afford a new one.  I'm looking at an 03-05.  Someone else has eaten the depreciation!

 

I didn't make that trailer, I convert Living Quarter Trailers. There is a Dealer in Versailles Ky. that sells Titan. We bought the Escalade used and saved over $15,000.



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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 7:11 AM (#75584 - in reply to #75581)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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A Tahoe will do a fine job for you. HWBar is correct about people "thinking" you needing a 3/4 ton for a BP being just plain silly.


Just to be clear, in my previous post I suggested a 3/4 ton Tahoe (the Yukon XL, actually). She could go with the 1/2 ton Tahoe, but she'll sacrifice about 1600 lbs of towing capacity.

Sure, a loaded 4H bp will probably tow better than a pimped LQ empty. It'll tow better than a flatbed with a Cat D6 on it, too. I don't think the OP was asking about towing LQs or D6s, though.

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2008-01-30 8:33 AM (#75586 - in reply to #75584)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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We once owned a 3H slant steel GN trailer which we pulled with a 1/2T Chevy pickup and it didn't do just "fine." We couldn't STOP.
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mwil048
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 2:19 PM (#75620 - in reply to #75351)
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You can tow a brenderup as others have posted.  I towed my 2 horse Prestige TC with a 1997 Mercury Villager minivan through the mountains of PA with NO problems.  I purchased the 2000 Brenderup new for $11,500.  I could not, at the time afford a $20,000 + truck plus a $5,000 + trailer and I needed the space in the van for the kids.  This trailer has cost me ZERO dollars in maintenance and is now a full 8 years old.  The only thing I've had to pay for is routine inspections while all my friends are nickel and dimed to death to keep their trailers safe and running.  There is no brake controller to worry about.  And never have I had any issues braking.  No worries about overloading the back of your tow vehicle with the 165 pound fully loaded tonque weight.  It's easy to hookup yourself.  Easy to park - it has an emergency break so no chocking of the wheels is necessary. I love the long ramp - I hate to see horses butts hanging out the back of a 2 horse trailer. No need for stabilizer bars - I have never had this trailer sway on me - ever.
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iCE CRM
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2008-01-30 5:57 PM (#75641 - in reply to #75620)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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I bought a new Pilot in Sept. and they told me that if I put a trailer hitch on it. It would cost $900 because it had to have an oil cooler and some other stuff or it would void the warranty. I was just wantin a receiver hitch so I could carry my bicycles. Guess I will just put them in the back of my dually.
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krisell26
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 7:01 PM (#75652 - in reply to #75641)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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That's a good deal. The jerk at my Honda store quoted me $1500 for everything I would need to tow.
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krisell26
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 7:07 PM (#75653 - in reply to #75351)
Subject: RE: Can I tow a light horse trailer with a Honda Pilot?


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While I have you all, we're also considering the Sequoia, Expedition and a V8 Explorer.  I've heard they can tow more than you think. 
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Towfoo
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2008-01-30 8:23 PM (#75664 - in reply to #75653)
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I've heard they can tow more than you think. 


Don't go by what you've heard or what people think. Go by facts. Weight specs are readily available from the mfgrs.
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