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glori
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2007-04-10 5:36 PM (#59004)
Subject: Laminitis


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Thought my 18 yr old gelding had arthritis.  Last Diognosis (no x-ray yet) he has Laminitis..  Strong distal pulse hot front feet, has been grazing since dec.  I  am guilty as all feeling I did tthis to him with protien/carbs Senior feed and grass the culprit.  I have padded his feet and gave him adequin,removed him from grass and grain. hay only   Is this all I can do??  I know nothing more
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rose
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2007-04-10 8:04 PM (#59018 - in reply to #59004)
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What does your Vet say? If you have a creek handy, put him in it. If no creek, then make a mud hole, put him in it, pour rubbing alcohol on legs and feet; give aspirin, for anti inflamatory and blood thinning. Good luck.
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farmbabe
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2007-04-10 8:08 PM (#59019 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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You're going to have to ask your vet your questions, you can google laminitis and start reading info. Its not for certain feeding caused this bout- there are many factors. Age, condition,weight, preexisiting problems, breed ( some have a greater tendency) and sometime nothing at all to blame. Do some reading, ask your vet and farrier.
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kcnyellow
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2007-04-10 8:34 PM (#59020 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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If you do a search on the internet, you'll find some helpful information.  I had this happen last year after we had rains on our drought stricken grass here in the Panhandle.  I didn't know at the time that the grass had something like 10x the normal sugars in it than spring grass.  Anyway, my vet put him on bute and had me ice his feet several times a day for long periods of time.  My farrier came in and put styrofoam supports under his feet to help support the coffin bone while the lamina died off and were replaced.  After about 10 days, I took him off the bute and put him on BL Solution (great stuff! and won't tear their stomachs up like bute), which kept him comfortable.  I also included Co-Q 10 (free radical scavenger to help support new lamina growth), Flax seed, and MSM in his diet.  I am happy to report that he has made a full recovery and we did not have any rotation of his coffin bone.  However, I will never let him out on green grass again.  He can have it after it browns up in the summer, but I am sure he will always have to be watched for insulin resistance. 

Good luck with your boy.  I've been through many horse emergencies and serious conditions, laminitis was in my opinion the worst thing I have ever dealt with.  I had never felt so helpless in my life and I hope I never have to go through that again. 

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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-04-10 9:24 PM (#59025 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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Running cold water on their legs works well, but you really must talk with your vet.

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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-04-11 12:41 PM (#59061 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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I concur with the other posts - a vet should be consulted. But I will add that the services of a good natural trim farrier would probably be helpful. I foundered my pony on too much grass (I feel your guilt!) My farrier did an excellent job of bringing her back to soundness. It took several months and dry lots, but she's feeling great now. I have invested in a grazing muzzle for this spring. (no pasture yet here in New England). Best of luck!
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Rich M.
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2007-04-11 4:31 PM (#59074 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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Immediately you need a vet/farrier team, current xrays to acess the damage and support for those feet. NOW! Spend the money he may need additional support for those feet and and possibly long term care as the hoof remodels. Please visit www.safergrass.org for management practices for horses prone to laminitis/founder. As an aside and I will not get into any back and forth discussion, NO barefoot trimmer is a quality farrier, the term farrier does not even apply to one who "barefoot trims only". In a case like this a trimmer is sorely lacking in options to provide your horse full range of support and comfort that may be needed.You may visit www.horseshoes.com for further support info for your horse. Be prepared you will find only straight talk only there, not one drop of sugar, take a thick hide if you are easily offended.Rich
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Brkncircle
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2007-04-13 8:21 AM (#59207 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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Every horse, and every case of laminitis is different. A good vet and farrier team is what you need, or someone who is both (like Rick Redding in KY). You need to have xrays taken to see how much damage has been done, and for your farrier to have a "map" to help him treat your horse. Find a farrier who at least specializes in Laminitis and Founder. You will have better results, in the long run. But you are on the right feeding tract. I always have said people founder or cause laminitis with love by overfeeding their horses.
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-04-13 7:38 PM (#59240 - in reply to #59004)
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Originally written by glori on 2007-04-10 6:36 PM

Thought my 18 yr old gelding had arthritis.  Last Diognosis (no x-ray yet) he has Laminitis..  Strong distal pulse hot front feet, has been grazing since dec.  I  am guilty as all feeling I did tthis to him with protien/carbs Senior feed and grass the culprit.  I have padded his feet and gave him adequin,removed him from grass and grain. hay only   Is this all I can do??  I know nothing more

post your problem over here...http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/

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Dunagain
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2007-04-13 11:42 PM (#59258 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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Just went through this with my good friend...her horse foundered first week in January and called the vet right away.  She ended up at the University (my friend didn't want to take any chances...and the vet said she'd call it in for us)...but the vets at the University immediately pulled her shoes, taped styrofoam pads and supported the sole and frog right away (and gave her some bute).  The main thing was to let her stand in deep, deep shavings and not move her around too much.  She was on stall rest only (no turnout at all) for a week or two, and then only five minutes of walking twice a day in soft sand, but otherwise standing in deep shavings.  Good news is that the rotation of the coffin bone returned to normal in one foot, and only 1 degree in the other (from a 6 degree and 9.)  The hooves were trimmed, and repacked by a therapeutic farrier every 4 or 5 weeks.  The most important message by everyone was "BE PATIENT!"  If you managed to control the laminitis, it takes awhile for the damaged laminae to grow out, so turning out/riding too soon may cause a relapse.  Good luck!  There's still a lot to learn about this condition.

P.S. My friend also purchased a pair of those "soaker boots" that you can fill with water or ice if you have another episode. 

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glori
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2007-04-19 8:05 AM (#59594 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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Thankyou all for your help. I did Have x-rays done and there was not any rotation. However his pasturned jt showed hardly any space (increase in his arthritis) hence the clicking with gait. Special bar shoes put on with a special pad (silicone goo of some sort). I give him a hand full of grain just to get his supplement in. Bute everyday now both oral and injectable, would like to find that B L solution someone had suggested.
He still very lame on the right. Vet said he may end up a expensive lawn ornament. Ive never had to put a horse down yet. I cannot even begin to think of where to begin both emotionally and physically if you will.
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barstow
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2007-04-19 8:08 AM (#59595 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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You can find BL Solution at www.countrysupply.com. Friends and I have used it with varying degrees of success. It's an herbal formula, I believe. Best of luck!
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ponytammy
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2007-04-19 12:06 PM (#59606 - in reply to #59004)
Subject: RE: Laminitis


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I've had good experience with Lamina Saver. Check it out on the net and it can be purchased from Valley Vet.com Foundering/Laminitis eposides take time to heal. I know it is hard to be patient, but you are on the right track now with farrier care. Discuss with your vet a feeding program for your horse to minimize a relapse.

PS I'm assuming your vet does not think this episode was caused by Cushing's Diesease. Cushhings horses develop bouts of laminitis in the Spring and Fall and was curious based on his age. Best of luck to you and your horse. Let us know how he is doing in a few weeks.

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