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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2006-08-25 11:03 AM (#47386)
Subject: hauling square bales


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Been looking for a "NEW" 102" wide x 300" long flat bed gooseneck with pop-up dove tail. Most everyone are advertizing their trailers as a 7 ton or 14,000# gvw trailer. But what they don't tell you is that you got to subtract the weight of the trailer 3500# from the 14,000#. They lead you to believe that you can plop 7 tons on the trailer and hit the road.......Nope, don't think so. My Nash County math tells me that you can't haul but a little better than 5 tons or 10,500# on their 14,000# rated trailer.......within the law. I found one Mfg.........only one that would tell me up front that their ratings were for the trailer weight along with the freight to be carried. The trailer that they are building for me is rated at 17,500# tandem axle with single 215-75x17.5 16pr singles on solid disc wheels. We will be getting up hay this weekend and my "NEW" trailer should be ready next Tuesday. Oh well, always a day late and a dollar short, but I'll be more than ready for the last cutting sometime the last week of Sept. or the first week of Oct. Any of you haul hay? About how may square bales would you try to haul on this trailer. I buy Orchard grass from one man and I think I could put 300 of his on there, his bales are 36"x15". What we bale is Tifton 44, our bales are 48"x 15". I think that if I could get 210 of these on there, then that would be about all I wanted without having to strap it all down. Not going on the hi-way, just from one side of the farm to the other. AND yes........ this is a little off topic, but it is about a TRAILER and HORSE hay! Put me some stock sides on it and it too, can be a HORSE TRAILER!!! OH, and what did the little planet Pluto do to be down graded to a "DWARF PLANET"? Yea it's little, but it's bigger than a beach ball.....I think.  Ya'll think about it. Is it 17:00 yet?
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SLICKRNSNOT
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2006-08-25 11:22 AM (#47394 - in reply to #47386)
Subject: RE: hauling square bales



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Ask any farmer how much hay he can haul on his flatbed trailer....as much as I can get on her !!

Remember some of that weight goes on the goose neck and is carried by the truck.

I put 5 tons on My trailer and when Ihit the scales I only had around 9000 on the axles.4500 each.

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rattler
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2006-08-25 1:58 PM (#47413 - in reply to #47386)
Subject: RE: hauling square bales


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210 on that size trailer will be a piece of cake. I get 175 on a 18ft X 7 wide gooseneck. I'd think you could put 40-50 bales a layer.
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SLICKRNSNOT
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2006-08-25 2:37 PM (#47416 - in reply to #47386)
Subject: RE: hauling square bales



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It's like My horse trailer has 7k axles and a 18800 gvwr

at 23850 truck and trailer,10500 is on the trailer axles,4850 in on the truck,4550 on rear and 300 on the front of truck. trailer is 15450

Are the tires rubbing the frame ? no ? well put more on er!

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2006-08-25 5:41 PM (#47426 - in reply to #47386)
Subject: RE: hauling square bales


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About NC MV law. 

That 14,000 # GVWR trailer will require the driver to have a class "A" license .  Look at the back of your NC license for proof.

Also if your truck isn't tagged for the total truck & trailer weight... you get to help plump up the state coffers.  Look at your registration card for proof again.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2006-08-25 6:35 PM (#47429 - in reply to #47386)
Subject: RE: hauling square bales


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My truck has 20,000# farm truck plates. Do I need to change them to 28,900# to cover the weight rating for the combo? 11,400# for the truck and 17,500# for the trailer? Truck spec. says not to exceed 22,000# GCVWR for a fifth wheel setup. And, as for a class A, well the last time I showed up at the DMV to apply for the A license, they pretty much laughed me out of the building. "You're in a wheelchair". "How on earth are you going to manage a class A vehicle?" So I rolled out the door with my mickey mouse "class c" and never went back, that was 12 years ago. I've had no tickets, had no wrecks and they acted as though I was some one legged crip that really had no business driving anything on public highways. They always make me do their driving test for them to even get a class c every five years. I figure I can carry about 9500# of hay, feed, dirt, groceries etc. without exceeding my 20,000# plates. That's more than I want to unload by hand on any eastern N.C. summer afternoon. Thanks for the imput, but I belive I'll just keep on like I've been doing. It ain't wrong, it's just against the law.
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2006-08-25 8:11 PM (#47435 - in reply to #47386)
Subject: RE: hauling square bales


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Retento...  I may not have been clear.  Writing well is hard.  The license is based on GVWR but the weighted tags is based on actual weight.

So as you're tagged for 20,000 pounds I wouldn't worry.  The first pounds over weight are small cost.  AND the charging officer must weigh your vehicle.

 

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