Posted 2005-06-16 7:14 AM (#26636 - in reply to #26612) Subject: RE: Pictures of the ramp and half door problem...
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If you look at the back doors on semi tailers, you will notice that they have strap hinges, so the door could fold flat against the side. The hinge pin is located where the side and the back meet. If you go to a major hardware store or a truck supply store you should be able to find a strap hinge, the longer part would go on the rear door. This is a site where you could see what a strap hinge looks like, http://www.vandykes.com/subcategory/67
Posted 2005-06-16 7:40 AM (#26639 - in reply to #26612) Subject: RE: Pictures of the ramp and half door problem...
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The fork looks to be in good condition, I'd at least keep that (-:
Somebody check me on this; I think that if you put 270 degree hinges on it the hinge pins need to be OUTSIDE the outline of the trailer side and back.
This is a practical geometry thang and right now I can't support my theory, but it seems like the door won't fold flat against the side unless you have the hinge pivot out there.
for the door to open 270 degrees the hinge pin has to be at the outside corner.
The only problem with putting butt hinges on the door, and make them removable, you have the possibility of loosing the door when going over rough roads. I speak from experience, my rear curtain doors were hard to open, so I hammered the pin loose, filed it down, and greased them. They opened easily. When I arrived at the show I noticed that one door was missing, drove back and found the door. Then I put a cotter pin in the hinge pin.
Posted 2005-06-16 8:52 AM (#26649 - in reply to #26639) Subject: RE: Pictures of the ramp and half door problem...
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My Featherlite has those big strap hinges, and yes, Reg, the pins do sit off the edge of the trailer. :-)
I could not find anything like that in my area (nearest big town is a few hundred miles away). I'll call Redneck this morning and see if those will work. The door is set fairly far inside the frame of my trailer - I am not sure if the straps are long enough.
Thanks for the warning about pin hinges... We do travel lots of washboarded backroads and I would hate to lose the whole door.
Posted 2005-06-16 11:01 AM (#26664 - in reply to #26612) Subject: RE: Pictures of the ramp and half door problem...
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I've been sort of following this... the pictures help a lot. My last 2H had upper doors that did not fold flat against the sides, but they were high enough (and I am short enough) they didn't cause a problem - but I had butt hinges with pins that were not removeable.
A solution that **I** see, is to simply close the door, once the horse(s) is unloaded. It doesn't appear to be a lap door - so you don't have to close the ramp before this one, right? It looks like it has its own latch. If you need access to the horse area, you could position "stuff" at the back door at the top of the ramp before you close the upper door.
You would have to do a good deal of re-configuration to make that door one that folds back against the side of the trailer because of the way it is recessed into the frame of the back of the trailer. There is what, about 3" of gusset along the edge there at the back corner ???
Good Luck with whatever plan you come up with. It does look like a nasty situation.
Posted 2005-06-16 5:12 PM (#26705 - in reply to #26664) Subject: RE: Pictures of the ramp and half door problem...
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Hi Gabz and Terri,
Yes, the door is about 4" from the edge of trailer. I think the 12" strap hinges from Redneck will work, but it may require some fabrication/reinforcement.
To me, it's worth fixing right. We use my trailer at the CTR events, for an example I weighed in riders and tack at the first ride this year with the scale setup in the back of my trailer. Left the damnHeadWhackerDoor open all day for that... :-)