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millironk
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2012-04-30 1:36 PM (#143546)
Subject: Furnace and Carbon monoxide issue in living quarters


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We gave our trailer a test run over the weekend at home.   After about an hour of running the furnace the Carbon monoxide dectector went off.  There was a registered buildup of Carbon monoxide in the living quaters.  We opened the windows and turned off all gas for the rest of the evening. The furnace did not seem to be putting out the usual amount of heat either.   The tester had new batteries so no problem there.  We tried the furnace by it self the next morning, there was a gas smell inside and outside the trailer.  the dectector went off again.  This seems to be an issue with the furnace, not the hot water, stove or fridge.  Any ideas before we take it to a professional/   Thanks
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-04-30 4:33 PM (#143552 - in reply to #143546)
Subject: RE: Furnace and Carbon monoxide issue in living quarters


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You may have one of two problems or maybe a combination of both.

Check your air inlet and exhaust ducts for proper airflow. Make sure no bugs have made a home inside them, and that they are clean and open.

Check the air flow of the blower motor for a good volume. If it doesn't maintain a majority of its rpm by low voltage, worn bearings or a dirty impeller, it won't provide proper combustion when the sail switch opens and fires the ignition circuit.

In addition, you can also check:

Low gas pressure which can also cause incomplete combustion. Check the ignitor to see if there are any bug's nests affecting the burner's operation. The flame should be sharp and distinct, blue in colour with little orange surrounding it.

Many problems are caused by dirt or bugs' remnants. A good cleaning may all be that is necessary, to return the furnace to a proper running condition.



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captclank
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2012-04-30 5:43 PM (#143553 - in reply to #143546)
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Our CO detector was doing the same thing,turned out the detector was bad. Just another thing to check out!
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millironk
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2012-04-30 6:40 PM (#143556 - in reply to #143546)
Subject: RE: Furnace and Carbon monoxide issue in living quarters


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Gard,

Thanks for your help. There were a couple of mud dauber nests in the exhaust tube. Hopefully this will correct our problem.

You mentioned a blue flame, but I can't see any flame. Is there a shield, or something, that needs to be removed in order to see the burner?

Thanks again for your help. Your advice is always accurate and very helpful.

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-01 9:34 AM (#143579 - in reply to #143546)
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The combustion area of a furnace is in a contained space, to prevent the chance of creating a fire to any nearby structures. It is usually accessed by a moveable/removeable plate or cover. Finding this is usually an easy process. The propane gas line and wiring from the circuit board have to meet at some point. This will be in the burner section of the furnace.

Some time spent on line should produce a diagram that would indicate the component(s) you are seeking. You can enter your furnace's manufacturer and model number into a store's data base, and a catalog and diagram of parts will be presented.

There you will find an ignitor and a gas orifice. This is where the flame is created. Any dirt here will cause the flame to be less than optionable. There will be a nearby gas/air adjustment in the gas line, that will allow the flame to be manipulated to its most efficient setting.

Your heater is working, so the burner section is presently operational, perhaps not at an optium level. The fact that it takes a while to build up the CO, could describe a low or restricted burner airflow. Some bugs can easily disrupt this process.

Any bug residue in the burner's section can mess things up as well. Before you take the trailer to a professional, it would be worth your time to make a cursory inspection of the burner section. It may not need any repairs, only some specific cleaning.

When you're done cleaning, the exhaust vent should have a good air flow from the fan, and the flame a bright, sharply defined, blue. Turn the furnace on high for a while and see if the detector emits an alarm. Don't stay in the living space while you're doing the testing.

Also make sure the CO decector is up to date and its battery is new. Both are time limited and eventually have to be replaced.

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sdlepalpm
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2012-05-10 9:17 PM (#143864 - in reply to #143546)
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We have had our lp monitor go off in the night several times.  If there was a leak somewhere, wouldn't the carbon monoxide monitor go off as well?  Where can we buy a new lp monitor?  I have tried several RV places and even the company that put our living quarters in and I just can't get any results.
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-10 10:20 PM (#143868 - in reply to #143546)
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Big box stores, home and hardware centers, WalMart, Sears etc

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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-10 10:25 PM (#143869 - in reply to #143546)
Subject: RE: Furnace and Carbon monoxide issue in living quarters


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http://www.amazon.com/SafetySiren-Combustible-Propane-Methane-Detector/dp/B0017Z5DZO
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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2012-05-10 10:39 PM (#143872 - in reply to #143864)
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Originally written by sdlepalpm on 2012-05-10 9:17 PM

We have had our lp monitor go off in the night several times.  If there was a leak somewhere, wouldn't the carbon monoxide monitor go off as well? 
No...one detector is looking for C3H8 and the other is detecting CO
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Yvette
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2012-05-12 7:03 PM (#143904 - in reply to #143546)
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Since gas leaks are not something to mess around with, I wouldn't hesitate to take it to a professional, especially if you are smelling gas. The money spent may save your life. IMO
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gard
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2012-05-12 10:18 PM (#143908 - in reply to #143546)
Subject: RE: Furnace and Carbon monoxide issue in living quarters


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"Since gas leaks are not something to mess around with, I wouldn't hesitate to take it to a professional, especially if you are smelling gas. The money spent may save your life. IMO"

Very wise advice

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Yvette
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2012-05-15 9:32 PM (#143975 - in reply to #143908)
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Originally written by gard on 2012-05-12 10:18 PM

"Since gas leaks are not something to mess around with, I wouldn't hesitate to take it to a professional, especially if you are smelling gas. The money spent may save your life. IMO"

Very wise advice



Yes, well it's easier to be wise when you know someone who nearly lost their life and did lose the life of their fiance, because of a gas leak on a camper. He spent a month or so in the hospital and if for some reason he hadn't sort of woken up and fallen by the door, he too probably wouldn't have lived either. This was before all those pesky detectors, but even so a hard lesson for all that cared for these people.
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