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EHC
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2010-08-18 8:45 AM (#123704)
Subject: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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What are the advantages and disadvantages of a fixed vs collapsable rear tack? Please state your experiences!Thank You!
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DD_TrailerMan
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2010-08-18 9:32 AM (#123707 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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By fixed...do you mean something like this??

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hogtownboss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-08-18 10:05 AM (#123711 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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Originally written by EHC on 2010-08-18 8:45 AM

What are the advantages and disadvantages of a fixed vs collapsable rear tack? Please state your experiences!Thank You!

Fixed or Solid rear tack:  I would rather have hands down.  No leaks (to speak of) no dust coming over the top or thru the gaps.

Folding rear tack: items can get wet, dusty, but can close to load 4 wheelers or whatever or some use them because they have not thought the horse to load and unload without having trouble.

The Sundowner we have now has a folding tack and I HATE IT, can not even leave the windows open when it rains because everything will get wet from blowing rain.  We do not leave the drop downs open just slide the window open for air to circulate (spell check).....  Working on turing it into a solid enclosed tack.

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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2010-08-18 10:06 AM (#123712 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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Originally written by EHC on 2010-08-18 8:45 AM

What are the advantages and disadvantages of a fixed vs collapsable rear tack? Please state your experiences!Thank You!

The colapable colapses? Pretty obvious that if you need the space to maybe haul something wide like a carriage you couldn't do it in the one that is fixed.

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watermarkfarm
Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2010-08-18 12:48 PM (#123726 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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I don't wish to detract from the original post, but I was wondering if anyone has ever **removed** a fixed rear tack from a trailer? I just purchased an older trailer with the fixed rear tack and I would rather not have it. The trailer is all aluminum.
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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2010-08-18 2:39 PM (#123731 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack



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I have a collapsible rear tack, and took foam pipe insulation tubes (look like pool noodles), split them lengthwise, and put under the edge of the rear tack wall to create a barrier to keep shavings and most liquid from running under. If I blast the hose at it while cleaning out the trailer water will still get under, but it does a pretty good job of keeping "the mess" out of the rear tack. I have a clean rear tack floor but can still fold it up if I need to.
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Spin Doctor
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2010-08-18 9:39 PM (#123746 - in reply to #123704)
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Was a fixed fan until I found "draft stop" for roll up overhead doors. Most big box lumber stores have it. It is an "L" shaped hard rubber about 3" wide--take a 1" flat strip of aluminum and rivet or using aluminum screws attach this to the edges of the folding tack squeezing the edge of the rubber between. Really simple to do and looks really nice! If you put the bottom of the "L" towards the livestock area it is pretty much water proof. Is flexible enough that folding up is not a problem.
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hogtownboss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-08-18 10:55 PM (#123748 - in reply to #123746)
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Originally written by Spin Doctor on 2010-08-18 9:39 PM

Was a fixed fan until I found "draft stop" for roll up overhead doors. Most big box lumber stores have it. It is an "L" shaped hard rubber about 3" wide--take a 1" flat strip of aluminum and rivet or using aluminum screws attach this to the edges of the folding tack squeezing the edge of the rubber between. Really simple to do and looks really nice! If you put the bottom of the "L" towards the livestock area it is pretty much water proof. Is flexible enough that folding up is not a problem.

The bottom is the easy fix, what about the 4" to 6" gap on the top edge between the roof and tack wall?

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LopeEmSlo
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2010-08-19 8:58 AM (#123759 - in reply to #123748)
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What if you tried Baler Belt? I used the 4" on the bottom of my collapsable tack to keep shavings out, but it seems pretty stiff. You could use the 8" or 10" and just screw it to the top of the tack. That way it's easy to collapse the tack but the belt is stiff enough that it stays upright and keeps water and dirt out.

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hogtownboss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-08-19 9:34 AM (#123763 - in reply to #123759)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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Originally written by LopeEmSlo on 2010-08-19 8:58 AM

What if you tried Baler Belt? I used the 4" on the bottom of my collapsable tack to keep shavings out, but it seems pretty stiff. You could use the 8" or 10" and just screw it to the top of the tack. That way it's easy to collapse the tack but the belt is stiff enough that it stays upright and keeps water and dirt out.

That might work too.

I have a sheet metal man working on using light gauge diamond tread alum. to completely seal everything off.  So far I am in it for the cost of the 4'x10' sheet for $120. bucks.  (but I use this to update older trailer running boards and splash guards also)  He wanted to use the alum. sheet so we would not have to use any paint or protection on it.  The gal. or sheet metal was alot cheaper but would have to prep and paint it or powder coat it.

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trot-on
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2010-08-21 10:00 AM (#123880 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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I prefer one you can collapse if needed to open up the whole back of the trailer to load or unload not only other items besides horses (like the riding mower lol) but to load and unload sick or injured horses heading to vet in an emergency. Hopefully no one will ever have to load a horse who is in really bad condition, but having the whole trailer open up makes it much easier, and safer for those handling the horse, as you can get beside them to lead them in, not both of you trying to go in through just one side of gthe trailer.

I actually prefer mid tack trailers, and have NO rear tack, but that adds length to the trailer
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2010-08-21 6:48 PM (#123894 - in reply to #123711)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack



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Originally written by hogtownboss on 2010-08-18 10:05 PM

Originally written by EHC on 2010-08-18 8:45 AM

What are the advantages and disadvantages of a fixed vs collapsable rear tack? Please state your experiences!Thank You!

Fixed or Solid rear tack:  I would rather have hands down.  No leaks (to speak of) no dust coming over the top or thru the gaps.

Folding rear tack: items can get wet, dusty, but can close to load 4 wheelers or whatever or some use them because they have not thought the horse to load and unload without having trouble.

The Sundowner we have now has a folding tack and I HATE IT, can not even leave the windows open when it rains because everything will get wet from blowing rain.  We do not leave the drop downs open just slide the window open for air to circulate (spell check).....  Working on turing it into a solid enclosed tack.

 

Trade ya.  The people I got my trailer from took out and sold the rear tack/saddle rack and then decided they really did need it and built a fixed one and I don't like it.

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terri s
Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2010-08-21 7:56 PM (#123898 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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Am firmly in favor of a fixed tack. Have no need to haul mowers, etc. DO have a need to protect my tack area from horse pee. Although the one fix suggested might make me look a little more favorable on a folding tack, I don't use my trailer in such a way that it is really an advantage.
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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-08-23 2:14 PM (#123948 - in reply to #123704)
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Folding, especially on a 7 wide. I have a removable rear tack and double cam lock doors (no center post). The tack area is so small that it is hard to access things.  As soon as I get to camp and get the horse out, I sweep the shavings away from the tack wall, pop the pins and pull the wall back.  Then I have a big tack area and can step up into the trailer and am able to get my saddle on the second saddle rack easier.   I learned this from a little senior lady who had to do this to even get the saddle on the first rack!  She had a center post, but stepping into the trailer was much easier than trying to get the saddle on the rack from the ground. Having the wall pulled back also helps even getting the saddle on the lowest saddle rack because the stirrups are not hanging up on everything else that I have stuffed in there.   I don't do the ATV thing, but maybe the folding is better on a resale?  Not sure. 
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Bells
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2010-08-23 3:36 PM (#123954 - in reply to #123704)
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If you are worried about pee getting into your tack area - just cut a piece of mat to fit in the area. 

The edge of the mat keeps the pee flowing on by the tack area and your stuff on the floor is elevated so it too never gets pee on the bottom. 

Also helps (doesn't completely) keep sawdust from getting in the tack area.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2010-08-23 4:17 PM (#123956 - in reply to #123704)
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Collapsable Rear Tack for our outfit.... We haul saddles in the DR and Midtack.... Most of the time the rear tack is folded out of the way. Trailer has ramp over full cam lock doors with no center post.


 

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laurie
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2010-08-23 5:24 PM (#123960 - in reply to #123748)
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Originally written by hogtownboss on 2010-08-18 10:55 PM

Originally written by Spin Doctor on 2010-08-18 9:39 PM

Was a fixed fan until I found "draft stop" for roll up overhead doors. Most big box lumber stores have it. It is an "L" shaped hard rubber about 3" wide--take a 1" flat strip of aluminum and rivet or using aluminum screws attach this to the edges of the folding tack squeezing the edge of the rubber between. Really simple to do and looks really nice! If you put the bottom of the "L" towards the livestock area it is pretty much water proof. Is flexible enough that folding up is not a problem.

The bottom is the easy fix, what about the 4" to 6" gap on the top edge between the roof and tack wall?

I am wondering why you are concerned about sealing the top?

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ND COWBOY
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2010-08-24 8:51 AM (#123981 - in reply to #123704)
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I like the folding tack for the times I need to load horses with the saddles on. In my old trailer with fixed rear tack it was tough to load with saddles on and not catch on something. The folding tack full of gear still makes enough extra room to load safely.
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Cindy Trailer Depot
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2010-08-24 10:41 AM (#123987 - in reply to #123704)
Subject: RE: Fixed Rear Tack vs Collapsable Rear Tack


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When selling trailers, or for resale, it seems like it's 50/50.

Collapsible rear tacks let you haul more than horses or make it easy to haul a young horse or problem horse without walking in the opening and being in the trailer ahead of them.  They do let junk under the wall, but that's fixable.

My personal choice is collapsible with cam locks and no center post.  I keep the tack wall back all of the time...I only have it to begin with for resale...collapsible is better than none at all...I always put my saddles in the front dressing room or mid tack.  I do buy problem horses and some young horses and I don't want to haul them home without being able to safely load them and have plenty of room to escape trouble....they all learn to load correctly once I get them home, but that one loading experience can be unnerving, so I play it safe.  Actually my trailer of choice is a Platinum C Sport with the one big slant divider in the middle and full rear door...that way I can haul the horses facing the rear of the trailer backwards.  I have never had any bad experiences with even the worst horses loading and hauling this way.

 



Edited by Cindy Trailer Depot 2010-08-24 10:45 AM
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horsecamper
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2010-08-24 11:18 AM (#123991 - in reply to #123704)
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Bells, That is a great idea. I don't have the pee problem, as I bed down pretty heavy, but I do have the shavings problem and find it annoying. I don't have any extra mats, but I do have some 3/8 inch plywood and I'm going to cut a piece to fit and see how I like it.
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Bells
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2010-08-24 8:58 PM (#124015 - in reply to #123704)
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Just make sure that it can't slide under the wall into the horse area. I'm not sure if wood on the floor mat would make it more slippery than mat on mat which doesn't slide.
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