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Featherlite Wiring HELP!
atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 7:34 AM (#132232)
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Hey guys my dad has a featherlite bumper pull horse trailer and we are wiring in a 7 prong plug to it and i need to know what the wire colors correspond with on the trailer..i tried like e-trailer and stuff, but this trailer has a red wire and i don't see that on their diagram for a 7 prong plug. If anyone has a featherlite diagram i would really appreciate it! Thanks!
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Posted 2011-03-28 7:52 AM (#132237 - in reply to #132232)
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See if this helps...  http://www.goldengait.com/resource/7way_wiring_diagram/

 



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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 8:09 AM (#132238 - in reply to #132232)
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i saw that but the connector i'm using is a 7 flat pin connector not round..click this link and scroll down to the 7-pin flat connector and if you look there isn't any red wire?http://www.etrailer.com/faq-wiring.aspx
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Posted 2011-03-28 8:32 AM (#132242 - in reply to #132232)
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Trial and Error? I'd get a 12v battery and a couple extra long wire leads--ground to the negative side of the battery and red wire to the positive side, see what lights up.. Connect it to the correct wire for the 7 pin flat.

If it were me, I'd change the truck plug out to a 7 Round instead of the trailer's.



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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 8:55 AM (#132243 - in reply to #132232)
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Its a dodge ram 2500 it came factory with a 7 flat pin round connector. We are having problems with the trailer lights so we decided to try and replace the connector on the trailer thinking it was bad..I tested the trucks plug with a voltmeter and it all seems to work accordingly.
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Posted 2011-03-28 8:55 AM (#132244 - in reply to #132232)
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I agree, switch the plug as long as you are in the process of rewiring.

All the trucks are coming with the 7pin Round RV plug.  It's the standard and has been for the last 10 years on new trucks.  By switching out, you could tow that trailer with a friends truck and not need an adapter.

 

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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-28 9:17 AM (#132245 - in reply to #132243)
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I just finished fixing a very frustrating wiring problem with my Featherlite bumper pull trailer and Dodge Ram 2500 truck. Explain to us exactly what type of problem you are having and maybe someone can help. You might be wasting your time switching the plugs, etc.

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 9:26 AM (#132246 - in reply to #132232)
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ok, the problem was that when we plugged in the trailer plug all the lights would just instantly come on on the trailer and the truck
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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-28 9:45 AM (#132247 - in reply to #132246)
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OK so explain what you had when you started again please. I reread the previous posts and I think it would be helpful to start from the beginning. Did the trailer have a 7 way RV (flat blade) connector? Did the truck have the original 7 way RV connector?

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 9:52 AM (#132248 - in reply to #132232)
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yes the trailer has a 7 flat blade connector and the dodge has the factory 7 flat blade plug in. the lights worked before this winter and now when i plug in the trailer to the truck all the lights on the trailer and truck light up as if they have constant power all the time.

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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-28 9:58 AM (#132249 - in reply to #132248)
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Have you tried a temporary ground from the trailer frame to the truck frame. I usually do this while trouble shooting any wiring problems. I take a vise-grip and clean a spot on the truck frame, clamp a cooper wire to the truck and do the same for the trailer. That eliminates 90% of the problems when determining what is wrong. The other thing I would ask is have you added anything to the trailer such as an awning, replaced any broken screws, added anything to the upper left side of the trailer?

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 10:05 AM (#132250 - in reply to #132232)
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nothing has been added to the trailer. But last night i moved some wires and thought maybe they were in the wrong place on the trailer plug and now i cant find a wiring diagram to show me what color is what so i can hook up the new plug and start testing the ground. do you remember what color was what for the featherlite?
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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-28 10:10 AM (#132251 - in reply to #132250)
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If I recall correctly on the trailer side you have a red wire which is the battery feed to the trailer. Other standard wire colors are as follows:

Green: Right Turn/Brake Lights

Yellow: Left Turn/Brake Lights

Brown: Tail Lights

Blue: Trailer Brakes

White: Ground

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 10:12 AM (#132252 - in reply to #132232)
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OK, i have a black wire and a red wire coming from the trailer. which is the 12v power? this is what I'm confused about.
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Posted 2011-03-28 10:21 AM (#132253 - in reply to #132232)
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and if i remember correctly there isn't a blue wire coming from the trailer..i remember being confused about the red wire and not having a blue wire last night.
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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-28 10:23 AM (#132255 - in reply to #132252)
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Pull the trailer plug apart, run a jumper wire from the hot pin on the truck, this should be the one at the 1:00 o'clock position, disconnect the red wire from the trailer plug, then connect the jumper wire to the red wire. Check the interior trailer lights and see if they work. If they do then that wire should be connected to the mating pin at 1:00 o'clock on the trailer plug. Do this while you have your ground wire clamped to the frame of the truck and trailer. If the interior lights work use the same procedure for the black wire, connect it to the jumper wire and determine if that wire feeds the tail lights or exactly what it feeds. If the black wire feeds the trailer brakes you should hear a click when connecting the power because the magnets will grab the inside of the brake drum.

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 10:30 AM (#132256 - in reply to #132232)
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OK, i just don't understand why this trailer has different wire colors than every website is showing me..there's no blue and a red AND a Black. I will do some testing when i get out of work today.
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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-28 10:33 AM (#132257 - in reply to #132256)
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I think you will find the black wire is for the brakes.

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 10:38 AM (#132258 - in reply to #132232)
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The only reason i was assuming the black wire was power and the red had to be for the brakes was because on the etrailer diagram they have the black wire for the 12v. you could be right tho.
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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 10:41 AM (#132259 - in reply to #132232)
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i used a volt meter also to test each prong on the truck side while i had my dad hit the brakes,turn signal etc and they all had power when they were supposed to. So I'm almost 100% sure the problem is on the trailer side.
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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-28 12:22 PM (#132266 - in reply to #132232)
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featherlite just sent me a PDF with the color codes. Red is the electric brakes. and blackis the aux/back up lights. Its saying the blue is the aux./break away battery
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Paul D
Posted 2011-03-29 6:28 AM (#132299 - in reply to #132266)
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Did you get the wiring problem solved?

Paul
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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-29 10:29 AM (#132307 - in reply to #132232)
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i am 100% sure its wired correctly but i still get all the lights on the trailer illuminating when i plug it into the truck! ?
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Posted 2011-03-29 11:00 AM (#132308 - in reply to #132232)
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Sounds to me that the running light pin on the trailer is in contact with the 12v hot on the truck.

Are the brakes locked up, too? Are the brake lights (not running light tails) lit up?  

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-03-29 12:01 PM (#132312 - in reply to #132232)
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im pretty sure every single light on the trailer lights up lol. do you think it could be a problem on the trucks connector?
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Posted 2011-03-29 12:33 PM (#132316 - in reply to #132232)
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I guess its a possibility, though unlikely. You can always move trailer wires around to match your truck. The Round 7 pin RV plug wiring locations is pretty universal. I think you said you already took a volt meter to check the truck, well, I'd check again and write down the outcome of each pin location. (i.e. left pin = left turn, right pin= right turn, etc.) Check this against the corresponding trailer wiring diagram and see if you notice a problem.

You could also find another trailer to hook the truck to and see if it has the same problem. Or if one of your friends has a truck with the same connector, hook it to your trailer and see if the problem still exists.

Good luck. I hate electrical gremlins.

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Posted 2011-04-08 6:20 PM (#132783 - in reply to #132232)
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ok so we are still having problems. We hooked another ram 2500 up to the trailer and every light worked perfectly which rules out the trailer or the trailer wiring. My dad replaced the plug on his truck with an OEM chrysler one and hooked it to the trailer and he has turn signals, but when he hits the brake all the lights on the trailer light up and he has no running lights. He also hooked his truck up to another trailer and it showed the same symptoms. The problem is in the truck somewhere. any ideas?
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Posted 2011-04-08 9:10 PM (#132787 - in reply to #132232)
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Sounds as if the truck's plug is wired incorrectly and needs to be redone.
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Posted 2011-04-08 9:58 PM (#132794 - in reply to #132232)
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the trucks plug is a square plug in factory from dodge. Theres noway to mess up the wiring on the truck side..
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Posted 2011-04-09 7:07 AM (#132800 - in reply to #132232)
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ok so we are still having problems. We hooked another ram 2500 up to the trailer and every light worked perfectly which rules out the trailer or the trailer wiring. My dad replaced the plug on his truck with an OEM chrysler one and hooked it to the trailer and he has turn signals, but when he hits the brake all the lights on the trailer light up and he has no running lights. He also hooked his truck up to another trailer and it showed the same symptoms. The problem is in the truck somewhere.

??????????????????????  How about the wiring TO the plug????????????????????????

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Posted 2011-04-09 7:13 AM (#132801 - in reply to #132794)
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I don't recall if you stated what year your Dodge truck was but do a google search and see what you come up with. Some of the Dodge trucks had a design problem where the turn signals on the left side would flash when you moved the turn signal lever to indicate a right turn. I believe there was a TSB on this problem. And I don't remember if it was in the signal flasher, the turn signal switch, or the chassis computer.

Good Luck, Paul

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atvkid4eva
Posted 2011-04-09 9:01 AM (#132804 - in reply to #132232)
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the trailer worked before winter time. Im thinking maybe some some salt got into the trucks wiring before the plug along the frame? idk. is there anyway i could test the trucks plug to see if its working properly?
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Posted 2011-04-09 6:21 PM (#132822 - in reply to #132232)
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ok me and my dad just looked at it some. heres what happens. the turn signals work. the brake lights work. but when you turn the running lights on they do not work on the trailer and with them on nothing i just listed will work either? Any ideas?
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Posted 2011-04-09 6:58 PM (#132824 - in reply to #132232)
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Check the BACK of the plug on the TRUCK, where the wires go into it...I think that is where you will find your problem...Plugs on trucks in SALT COUNTRY need to be replaced on a routine basis of at least every other year...

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Posted 2011-04-09 7:21 PM (#132826 - in reply to #132232)
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its a brand new OEM plug on the truck...
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Posted 2011-04-09 10:17 PM (#132829 - in reply to #132826)
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Originally written by atvkid4eva on 2011-04-09 7:21 PM

its a brand new OEM plug on the truck...
Who installed the plug? And how many times have the wires been fiddled within it, during this latest process?
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Posted 2011-04-09 11:12 PM (#132831 - in reply to #132232)
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The chrysler plus is simply unplug and plug the new one in theres no way to mess it up. and the trailer plug is correct because we hooked it to another ram 2500 and the lights worked correctly.
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Posted 2011-04-10 4:20 AM (#132832 - in reply to #132831)
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Originally written by atvkid4eva on 2011-04-09 12:12 AM

The chrysler plus is simply unplug and plug the new one in theres no way to mess it up. and the trailer plug is correct because we hooked it to another ram 2500 and the lights worked correctly.

Then take a test light and check the "truck" plug. Be sure each terminal is reading correctly....  7 way is about middle of the page....  http://www.horsetrailerworld.com/home/wiring.asp

 

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Posted 2011-04-10 5:26 AM (#132833 - in reply to #132232)
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It is a ground issue on the truck wiring, with the running lights off the path to ground is thru the running light circuit, with running lights on the circuit to ground is thru the turn/brake circuit. Check for corroded or broken wire from truck harness to frame near adapter plug. Also check adapter itself for good continuity of the ground circuit.
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Posted 2011-04-10 9:24 AM (#132839 - in reply to #132232)
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ok, i was thinking ground problem as well. By the truck plug there are three wires that dont go to anything and one of them was green and corroded on the end..anyone kno why these wires are just sitting there and not connected from the factory? and is there a way to test and see where my ground problem lies or do i just have to look for a bare spot? Thanks!
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Posted 2011-04-10 9:27 AM (#132840 - in reply to #132839)
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Originally written by atvkid4eva on 2011-04-10 9:24 AM

ok, i was thinking ground problem as well. By the truck plug there are three wires that dont go to anything and one of them was green and corroded on the end..anyone kno why these wires are just sitting there and not connected from the factory? and is there a way to test and see where my ground problem lies or do i just have to look for a bare spot? Thanks!
Is there power to any of those three wires that happen to be sitting there?Are the ends of these three wires at least insulated?
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Posted 2011-04-10 9:57 AM (#132842 - in reply to #132232)
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id have to check tomorrow to see if they have power to them. They are insulated up to the end but the tip of the wire is still exposed. Seems to be factory wirirg?
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Posted 2011-04-10 3:47 PM (#132852 - in reply to #132232)
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what about the rear dual filiment bulbs not grounding good in the sockets? read something about that on google.
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